Windows 8 build 8400 images hit the web

Not long ago we reported that build 8400 was likely the release preview candidate, that information gets a bit more confirmation today as another source is now reporting that 8400 will be the release preview.

Image Credit: Mydrivers.com

The new information comes from myfiles.com.cn, a Chinese based site who also tossed up a couple new images from the build including inline upgrade options within Windows 8. The source claims that the build was compiled on May 18th and the full build string is 8400.0.WINMAIN_WIN8RC.120518-1423.

Image Credit: Mydrivers.com

Unfortunately, if you were hoping to get your hands on the new theme that Microsoft unveiled last week, it looks like Aero will live to see another release as WinUnleaked is reporting that Aero is included in the Release Preview and that the final theme will not be available to consumers until the product hits RTM. 

Win8China, not to be left out, also posted up a couple images (from build 8375) including a slightly updated start screen that shows a bit of color refinement across a few of the apps.

Image Credit: Win8china

Finally, Media Center addicts appear that they will get a chance to play with the environment in build 8400 if the screenshot below is any indication of included features in build 8400.

Image Credit: Winunleaked

There is a lot more to see in the Release Preview and we expect more images to surface in the coming days about the changes that Microsoft will be introducing in the latest public release of Windows 8. 

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Quite eagerly waiting for Windows 8, but more in terms of wanting to buy a W8 tablet than installing it on my PC (which I'll do anyway).

The problem with Metro, s that Microsoft hasn't optimized it for the Desktop, one exacple is on the lock screen, you have to use your mouse to pull it up, that's extremely unnatural, and they need to improve it for Desktop users, possibly as soon as you start typing in your password an Animation will move it out of the way. I'm typing this from my Win8 CP with all the updates partition.

JonathanMarston said,
Hit space bar. It magically goes away...

Doesn't hitting any key also make it go away?

Even if they do keep WMC the same, the little thing that bugs me is that they could possibly change the logo to the new Windows logo.

Why am i being chased from OS to OS. Ubuntu was getting so good and then came Unity and gnome 3 and totally sent me packing back to Windows after 3 years on Linux. This is really starting to annoy me. The PC replaced the typewriter because it was far more productive. The tablet will not replace the laptop or desktop format because it is not a productivity machine. I love how i keep reading, and secretly hoping true, that Microsoft is hard at work on Windows 8 yet that ugly metro has not changed from the tech preview. Has anyone else noticed the paradox/contradiction with metro on the start screen and then the new explorer ribbon? Metro is the epitome of hiding controls and now explorer has been given far too many. Honestly, Microsoft has no attention to detail and Windows 8 WILL be the end of MS without doubt. Apple has an almost religious consumer base at the moment and MS is going to release a mishmash, time wasting, no-multitasking, UGLY POS.

So many thoughts I share as well, and well put.

This is in part why I've gone OS X. It's not to be "hip" or anything (hell, if anything you'll be considered a snob and brainwashed, not hip). It's because I find OS X the best OS in "traditional" style. Even now with Lion and Mountain Lion this summer and iOS features, they still haven't dropped the actual, traditional desktop user experience. I value that a lot. They're bringing over iOS app features and OS features, not the actual interaction aspect. So I really like how OS X is a desktop OS intended for desktop computers. Apple seem to realize that a desktop OS is for desktops and a mobile OS is for mobile devices, since the user interaction is different.

I still haven't grasped what Microsoft is thinking. It's... Really beyond me. Maybe it's just me lacking comprehension here and MS is doing something brilliant. I don't get it, though.

I'm not saying this because I happen to use OS X at home. Another OS I use at home and enjoy is Windows 7.

Edited by Northgrove, May 21 2012, 4:29pm :

I totally agree with you. The only thing i wish Apple would do and i can see it coming, is getting rid of the detached menu bar at the top of the screen. That thing it really stupid on a large screen or even dual screens.

Iridium said,
. Has anyone else noticed the paradox/contradiction with metro on the start screen and then the new explorer ribbon? Metro is the epitome of hiding controls and now explorer has been given far too many.

I'm tired of everyone complaining about the ribbon. Honestly it's MINIMIZED BY DEFAULT so takes no more real estate than the menu bar! If you are the type that uses keyboard shortcuts and context menus that's fine continue to do so.

The ribbon makes perfect sense for the average user . Who would never in a life time would understand all those options buried in menus. and the ribbon is better for touch too .so why complain?

Northgrove said,
So many thoughts I share as well, and well put.

This is in part why I've gone OS X. It's not to be "hip" or anything (hell, if anything you'll be considered a snob and brainwashed, not hip). It's because I find OS X the best OS in "traditional" style. Even now with Lion and Mountain Lion this summer and iOS features, they still haven't dropped the actual, traditional desktop user experience. I value that a lot. They're bringing over iOS app features and OS features, not the actual interaction aspect. So I really like how OS X is a desktop OS intended for desktop computers. Apple seem to realize that a desktop OS is for desktops and a mobile OS is for mobile devices, since the user interaction is different.

I still haven't grasped what Microsoft is thinking. It's... Really beyond me. Maybe it's just me lacking comprehension here and MS is doing something brilliant. I don't get it, though.

I'm not saying this because I happen to use OS X at home. Another OS I use at home and enjoy is Windows 7.


As usual, Apple is late to the game. Just wait

Albert said,
yawn. not interested. as with the rest of 99.9% of long time windows users.

Yeah well 347.6% of the people disagree with you.

My percentage doesn't even have to make sense to be more true than the statistics you literally pulled out of your behind.

Albert said,
yawn. not interested. as with the rest of 99.9% of long time windows users.

Do you have proof that 99.9% of the users say that? Go back under the bridge troll.

dead.cell said,

Yeah well 347.6% of the people disagree with you.

My percentage doesn't even have to make sense to be more true than the statistics you literally pulled out of your behind.

Possession said,

Do you have proof that 99.9% of the users say that? Go back under the bridge troll.

you know what. i'm bookmarking and coming back to this thread after win-egg launch and have some more fun here. if by then it is still open. i am secure, patience and mature enough to see this through. more than i can say for these nincompoops, who will probably be grovelling about end of the world by then. lmfao.

The threads lock after x many days, probably to prevent spammers. Secondly, just because you aren't interested in something doesn't mean others aren't. Hell, what makes you think that only 0.1% of the people will be interested in this?

Yes, some are undecided, some like it, some don't, but the fact of the matter is that the consumer has a choice with it. Windows 8 will sell, it will come on new PCs, tablets, and so forth. People DO buy new computers after so much time. It boggles my mind how a grown individual could believe this will sell horribly. Do you not understand how the markets work? How Microsoft sells their products?

Ugh, why am I even replying to you, you're obviously trolling. There's no way a grown individual could think apply such poor logic to this...

Microsoft have never used the RC terminology in its strict sense - there always seem to be a few builds between RC and RTM. Admittedly this is usually restricted to fit and finish if no major bugs are found - changing icons will almost certainly not break the OS for example so the RC and RTM are incredibly close to being the same code.

singularity87 said,
Microsoft have never used the RC terminology in its strict sense - there always seem to be a few builds between RC and RTM. Admittedly this is usually restricted to fit and finish if no major bugs are found - changing icons will almost certainly not break the OS for example so the RC and RTM are incredibly close to being the same code.

This.
Though considering the additions, I'm saying the only things likely to change between now and RTM are:
- Sounds
- Wallpaper/Screensaver (Possibly only Wallpaper)
- Aero glass removed/un-set as default
- New Icons
- Updated/New Metro-style apps.

But few under the hood code changes.

"And as Harris notes, these changes will not be included in the coming Release Preview. These are changes that Microsoft will be making later, before the final release. (Not a big deal, but I'll just point out that making this kind of change that late in the process hints of poor project management. Are they making this up as they go along?)" -Artical by Thurrott

The answer is... YES they are.. They don't know what they are doing... They have a PR guy running the windows core and client team. He was previously responsible for ****ing up office in 2007 and now he is ruining the whole concept of WINDOWS.. what we are getting is not windows anymore it is something new with old bits left on... If there must be a new paradigm for devices then this stuff should live there. But the legacy and paradigm of a desktop computer is not going away as much as microsoft, google, and apple wish it would. And no matter how many phone UI concepts they keep slapping on to something running as a workstation I and a lot of us will never accept it willingly.

Matt A. Tobin said,
The answer is... YES they are.. They don't know what they are doing... They have a PR guy running the windows core and client team. He was previously responsible for ****ing up office in 2007 and now he is ruining the whole concept of WINDOWS.. what we are getting is not windows anymore it is something new with old bits left on... If there must be a new paradigm for devices then this stuff should live there. But the legacy and paradigm of a desktop computer is not going away as much as microsoft, google, and apple wish it would. And no matter how many phone UI concepts they keep slapping on to something running as a workstation I and a lot of us will never accept it willingly.

You lost me at "responsible for ****ing up office in 2007".

Matt A. Tobin said,
The answer is... YES they are.. They don't know what they are doing... They have a PR guy running the windows core and client team. He was previously responsible for ****ing up office in 2007 and now he is ruining the whole concept of WINDOWS.. what we are getting is not windows anymore it is something new with old bits left on... If there must be a new paradigm for devices then this stuff should live there. But the legacy and paradigm of a desktop computer is not going away as much as microsoft, google, and apple wish it would. And no matter how many phone UI concepts they keep slapping on to something running as a workstation I and a lot of us will never accept it willingly.

what was wrong with office 2007?

oliver182 said,

what was wrong with office 2007?


He's clearly talking about Ribbon, but you can turn it off so his point is moot IMHO.
Agree with the rest he said though.

GS:ios

im sorry but i would like to know when will this be available? sorry been offline for a while and missed most of win8 info

Hidr0 said,
im sorry but i would like to know when will this be available? sorry been offline for a while and missed most of win8 info

Windows 8 Release Preview will be launched sometime in the first week of June.

oh man i love the whole windows 8 direction but they better fix the desktop application tiles, they make the whole thing ugly. Just remove the text and make the tile take the color of the icon and make it fill the tile

Frankenchrist said,
The start screen still looks like something put together in paint by a colorblind or blind person.

I've never seen some much heavy criticism from the techies since Windows Vista. Betting houses should be running bookings on whether Windows 8 will be a failure or a success.

pmdci said,

I've never seen some much heavy criticism from the techies since Windows Vista. Betting houses should be running bookings on whether Windows 8 will be a failure or a success.


It'll no doubt be a controversial release. So far, we only hear complaints from the tech crowd, as you say. That's actually a bad sign, since these are traditionally the group of users who're the MOST progressive and accepting of new interfaces.

In short, I don't think we've seen anything yet. Windows 7 will live on for a very long time in user homes.

Northgrove said,

It'll no doubt be a controversial release. So far, we only hear complaints from the tech crowd, as you say.

The tech crowd are the same ones who called the ipad a gimmicky over sized iTouch. See how that turned out. For those of us who multitask, the desktop is in tact, for those Aunt's, teenagers and others who just facebook/email/youtube with a media player in the background (pretty much 7 or 8 out of 10 home users) Metro may well be a godsend.

Frankenchrist said,
The start screen still looks like something put together in paint by a colorblind or blind person.

*sigh* I'll say it again. Just like Windows Phone, screenshots do not do the interface justice, they truly shine and look amazing when you see them live in action. The live tiles, the way the background moves slightly different compared to the tiles, it's beautiful and can't really be shown as nicely in static screenshot format.

Microsoft: we removed aero to improve battery life, even if you're connected directly to the nuclear powerplant. We do this because we're microsoft, we know better than to, oh god forbit have an OPTION. dumb as people @ redmond can kiss my you know what. win8 is one dissapointment after another.

neonspark said,
Microsoft: we removed aero to improve battery life, even if you're connected directly to the nuclear powerplant. We do this because we're microsoft, we know better than to, oh god forbit have an OPTION. dumb as people @ redmond can kiss my you know what. win8 is one dissapointment after another.

So much for Microsoft pandering to smartphone/tablet users who are obsessed with battery life. Not a problem with laptops/desktops!

Aero hasn't been removed...jesus why do people keep repeating this FUD?

Aero is a lot more than just the glassy theme you see in Vista / 7. All the underlying stuff that allows windows / desktop to be drawn on the GPU still exists and runs like it should.

-Razorfold said,
Aero hasn't been removed...jesus why do people keep repeating this FUD?

Aero is a lot more than just the glassy theme you see in Vista / 7. All the underlying stuff that allows windows / desktop to be drawn on the GPU still exists and runs like it should.

People on the internet are thinking that Windows 8 will use the CPU again to render the Desktop, hilarious!

-Razorfold said,
Aero hasn't been removed...jesus why do people keep repeating this FUD?

Aero is a lot more than just the glassy theme you see in Vista / 7. All the underlying stuff that allows windows / desktop to be drawn on the GPU still exists and runs like it should.

Mate, most likely it's because that's how Microsoft advertise Aero. See below:

http://windows.microsoft.com/e...-vista/What-is-Windows-Aero

Realistically, the portion you are talking about is WPF. Here's what Microsoft classifies as Aero:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aero's distinctive visual style combines the appearance of lightweight, translucent windows with powerful graphic advances.

One of Aero's more visually obvious features is glass window borders, which let you focus on the contents of your open windows.

You can even fine-tune the color and appearance of windows, the Start menu, and the taskbar by tinting your translucent windows.

Part of the Windows Aero experience is Windows Flip 3D, which is a way to arrange your open windows in a three-dimensional stack that you can quickly flip through without having to click the taskbar.

Aero also includes taskbar previews for your open windows.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's not hard to see where people get the glossy glass with animations as being Aero.

Am I the only one seeing that "Activate Windows" watermark on the 3rd screenshot?

Oh god, oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god PLEASE don't let that be legit.

FalseAgent said,
Am I the only one seeing that "Activate Windows" watermark on the 3rd screenshot?

Oh god, oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god PLEASE don't let that be legit.

Why not? Activation occurs 9 times out of 10 before the end of the install process anyway, so the vast majority will never see the watermark, and those that do will only see it for as long as it takes them to get their WiFi sorted out or pick up the phone...

FalseAgent said,
Am I the only one seeing that "Activate Windows" watermark on the 3rd screenshot?

*bangs head against wall*
Haven't companies learned obtrusive DRM doesn't not work?

FalseAgent said,
Am I the only one seeing that "Activate Windows" watermark on the 3rd screenshot?

Oh god, oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god PLEASE don't let that be legit.

So that means no key required for installation? YIPEEE!

The B8 blog post by Jensen Harris did mention this same thing - that the full tweaks done to the desktop UI will be seen only in RTM. If you read the whole thing, that is. So Aero lovers are still going to whine and it could have stayed as just another non-default theme.

xpclient said,
The B8 blog post by Jensen Harris did mention this same thing - that the full tweaks done to the desktop UI will be seen only in RTM. If you read the whole thing, that is. So Aero lovers are still going to whine and it could have stayed as just another non-default theme.

well could we grab the resources from RC to recreate an aero theme for rtm?

Neobond said,
WTH? No new theme in a RELEASE preview? The logic fails me..
Gotta agree. Didn't they do stuff like this with Vista (certain changes weren't available in the RC that were in the RTM).

Neobond said,
WTH? No new theme in a RELEASE preview? The logic fails me..

They have already said that the team is driven by quality, not time.

Right, but the point of an "Release Candidate" is that it's a build that is feature complete, ready to go. If no bugs are found you release that build as the final.

cybertimber2008, the only changes they did from Vista's RC to RTM are bug fixes & icon changes.

DrCheese said,
Right, but the point of an "Release Candidate" is that it's a build that is feature complete, ready to go. If no bugs are found you release that build as the final.

cybertimber2008, the only changes they did from Vista's RC to RTM are bug fixes & icon changes.

If you haven't noticed by the way Microsoft is doing things this time around, Beta releases and mildstones are no longer relevent to the names. You can throw all that out the window and assume its just beta release 3. Developer preview, Customer preview (lol, right who wants to buy that after previewing it!) and now release candidate, not a very good candidate? meh send it back and request a new candidate.

Its how things USED to work, not anymore.

Neobond said,
WTH? No new theme in a RELEASE preview? The logic fails me..

Yeah, this is a disappointment! It is really confident of them to just thrust upon us the new theme right in the RTM! They could have tested it in this preview and gone about making changes as per the feedback.....but I guess they had different plans!

Neobond said,
WTH? No new theme in a RELEASE preview? The logic fails me..

we will get the new theme in RP.. But the one we saw in a screenshot. Im pretty sure about that.

cybertimber2008 said,
Gotta agree. Didn't they do stuff like this with Vista (certain changes weren't available in the RC that were in the RTM).

No. They've never done this. Vista received the Aero interface already in Beta 1: http://www.graymad.com/images/vistab1.png

Slightly refined in final, but only minor differences, especially to the chrome.

Windows XP received Luna in Beta 2.

No Windows release have gained major changes this late. Which makes me wonder if they are actually major. Maybe there's some miscommunication here... The point of early releases is user feedback. So it doesn't make sense to make late major changes in the UX.

NerdyTech said,
Windows 8 Images do not justify its greatness They look good, however will be even better when its live!

exactly! The whole Metro UI looks brilliant when in motion.

Aero had it's time in the sun, so to speak, and with 2D and 3D GUI aspects being hardware accelerated since Vista, I won't miss it at all honestly.

simrat said,
Man you just broke the heart of many Windows8 haters, now they cant whine "Aero's gone, MS will go bankrupt "

Don't worry, people will always find a reason to hate on MS. I am not a hater, but I have to admit, this is the first version of Windows in a long time I have not been eagerly awaiting.

Every version starting with Windows 2000 I have installed betas to play around with and then moved my main computers to the day RTM was available. Yes, I was even a Vista fan. I have installed the beta of Win8 and find myself totally uninterested. I don't have a touch screen and don't plan to get one anytime soon. I think for the first time in over a decade I may stick with an older version for a few months and see how everyone reacts first.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Win8 is worthless. Even putting Metro aside, there are some nice enhancements. I guess at the end of the day it will come down to apps. If a lot of nice Metro apps hit the market then I would probably upgrade to get those, if not, then I don't care.

sphbecker said,

Don't worry, people will always find a reason to hate on MS. I am not a hater, but I have to admit, this is the first version of Windows in a long time I have not been eagerly awaiting.

I agree with you. I have been using windows for years and the version I eagerly waited for the most, in order, where: 2000, XP, 7.

But I think that Windows 8, although it has a lot of cool under the hood new features, this whole Metro thing for the desktop just looks like a waste of time. I don't want to lose the focus from my desktop and all the windows I have open when I browse my start menu (screen) options (!?)

I've been quite comfortable using only windows for quite a while. But I reckon that soon I will find myself dual-booting (or triple booting) on my laptop again. Horses for courses.

simrat said,
Man you just broke the heart of many Windows8 haters, now they cant whine "Aero's gone, MS will go bankrupt "

Microsoft listened to users and left Aero intact. Still missing...Start button, and the ability to disable the Metro UI. At least, one out of three is a start.

simrat said,
Man you just broke the heart of many Windows8 haters, now they cant whine "Aero's gone, MS will go bankrupt "

Not just the haters, the lovers too. It broke my heart as well as I was hoping that the ISO "images" had hit the web.

simrat said,
Man you just broke the heart of many Windows8 haters, now they cant whine "Aero's gone, MS will go bankrupt "

Aero is not going anywhere. Transparency has been turned down a bit, that's all.

simrat said,
Man you just broke the heart of many Windows8 haters, now they cant whine "Aero's gone, MS will go bankrupt "

I personally find it funny when people say that Microsoft is killing themselves with Windows 8. I mean the Windows franchises a third of their total income. Although that is a big chunk of cash (assuming that Windows 8 fails) they still have two thirds of their income. Now of course That's assuming that Windows 8 is such a dramatic failure that they make zero sales. Which to be fair is a fairly unrealistic assumption. Vista was considered a failure, and yet I didn't see Microsoft going bankrupt over that fiasco.