Windows 8.1 build 9385 has leaked

Windows 8.1 build 9385 has leaked which is the fourth copy of Windows 8.1 to make its way to the web, well ahead of Microsoft's expected release in June and closely following behind the leak of build 9375.

Links are currently available that are of the build 9385 of Windows 8.1 that will be released later this year. As with any leak, we highly caution you from installing the build on your primary machine as these builds are likely not stable and could corrupt any disk you install the files on. 

We have already seen one new feature leak from this build, an alarm app setting, but once this build gets into the hands of many, we will surely discover more features Microsoft will bring with the 8.1 upgrade.

The previous builds to leak were 93749369, and 9364. Seeing as this is only a small incremental increase from the last leak, we don't expect to see many changes in this build. With that said, Microsoft could introduce a new feature with each new build so there may be small changes hidden within this copy of Windows 8.1

Microsoft is expected to release a preview build of the platform in late June as part of its upcoming BUILD conference with the RTM release coming sometime in the late summer season.

As standard practice for Neowin, we will not link to the locations that contain the leaked builds. 

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I've used Win8 since the Dev Preview. If you have problems with the hot corners on a non touch PC when using photoshop you are just uncoordinated or need to lower your mouse sensitivity

The Start Screen is a quicker version of the start menu with the added intrigue of live tiles. I can no longer handle the slow hovery bullship of the classic start menu! The only pro in it's column is nested categories (perhaps)

I do understand most of the criticisms as I had them too all the way back in September 2011.. but I've been using it and seen it improve over the test versions up until RTM and I will see it improve again with this service pack! It's simply faster and sleeker than Windows 7 and the tablet features and Metro apps can be ignored 98% of the time if you wish.

People on this site really need to find a life. I invite you all to visit me in Southern California, where you can walk in a WalMart and see the most beautiful women. Maybe then you all won't have orgasms over a freaking Windows 8 leak that looks exactly like the rubbish in the current Windows 8.

JHBrown said,
People on this site really need to find a life. I invite you all to visit me in Southern California, where you can walk in a WalMart and see the most beautiful women. Maybe then you all won't have orgasms over a freaking Windows 8 leak that looks exactly like the rubbish in the current Windows 8.

Haha.. Going to Walmart to look for good looking woman... I stopped reading your comments after that...

i jerk off to pictures of Windows 7

and yeah i too go hunting for women at wallmart too.
your gonna torn alive for that comment buddy LOL

Jonathan Lucas said,

Haha.. Going to Walmart to look for good looking woman... I stopped reading your comments after that...

Sounds like you live in the Midwest. Anyone who lives in Southern California knows you can go to Walmart, Target, or any grocery store and see a woman that would put anyone you've been with to shame. Re-read what I said. No where did I mention going to Walmart to "find" a woman. Your smart ass comment, trying to be humorous, failed!

spoetnik said,
i jerk off to pictures of Windows 7

and yeah i too go hunting for women at wallmart too.
your gonna torn alive for that comment buddy LOL

except the idiot took it all out of context. I did not say go to Walmart to look for women. It's simply put, a Walmart out here, you can find what many on here would go ape scht over. His reading 101 failed.

JHBrown said,
People on this site really need to find a life.
You come onto a pro-Windows site and complain that people discuss a recently leaked version of the future release of Windows. What's wrong with this picture?

one more thing

if after all these years of development all what they were able to do is half a control panel, and a few fixes here and there, then good luck with Windows, they will really need it, I know that the developers at Microsoft deteriorated, but not to that level, I did not expected it.

john.smith_2084 said,
one more thing

if after all these years of development all what they were able to do is half a control panel, and a few fixes here and there, then good luck with Windows, they will really need it, I know that the developers at Microsoft deteriorated, but not to that level, I did not expected it.

Right. Because the changes in Windows 8 didn't require MASSIVE changes at Microsoft. I mean after all, a n00b could have done this over the course of a weekend...

john.smith_2084 said,
one more thing

if after all these years of development all what they were able to do is half a control panel, and a few fixes here and there, then good luck with Windows, they will really need it, I know that the developers at Microsoft deteriorated, but not to that level, I did not expected it.

Windows Blue is developed by the team that originaly made the Windows Service Packs. They aren't with very much and so, they do a lot of work. The main Windows team is just working on Windows 9.

Dot Matrix said,

Right. Because the changes in Windows 8 didn't require MASSIVE changes at Microsoft. I mean after all, a n00b could have done this over the course of a weekend...

Well they certainly required massive amounts of something. Probably something that's illegal and can be found in any police evidence locker

Javik said,

Well they certainly required massive amounts of something. Probably something that's illegal and can be found in any police evidence locker

or in Dot-Matrix's locker
after all they both same to be 'on' the same stuff lol
Windows PaTroll on the prowl lookout !

john.smith_2084 said,
No Aero glass? hidden shutdown menu? still sucks!
De shotdown menu has Always been hidden. What's the problem?

And if you like Aero Glass so much: just install it again.

EdwinTheWise said,
One importante feature woild be real support for sd card
Whut? Support forSD cards is tere sonde Windows 95 (or earlier)...

Its not that, on surface rt we have to teak the os to be able to install apps in the card, not to mention the libraries (vĂ­deo app and so...)

Anything new for the millions of people using desktops or laptops in traditional business settings where content creation is paramount? If not, Windows-8 remains the OS for tablets and Windows-7 remains the OS for desktops and laptops, period.

TsarNikky said,
Anything new for the millions of people using desktops or laptops in traditional business settings where content creation is paramount? If not, Windows-8 remains the OS for tablets and Windows-7 remains the OS for desktops and laptops, period.

I seem to remember a desktop in Windows 8.

Is clicking into Start to launch an app REALLY that much of a "productivity killer"? It's the same motions as clicking an app in the Start Menu. Sheesh.

Dot Matrix said,

I seem to remember a desktop in Windows 8.

Is clicking into Start to launch an app REALLY that much of a "productivity killer"? It's the same motions as clicking an app in the Start Menu. Sheesh.

I'd sure as feck hate to be trying to use Photoshop with those retarded hot corners constantly getting in my way. At least the traditional desktop UI didn't bother you unless you actually clicked it.

Dot Matrix said,

I seem to remember a desktop in Windows 8.

Is clicking into Start to launch an app REALLY that much of a "productivity killer"? It's the same motions as clicking an app in the Start Menu. Sheesh.

Is that your convoluted and argumentative way of saying no ?

and... I seem to remember a frankenstein Hybrid desktop in Windows 8.
so uhh nooop ..fail

lctb51 said,
I'm praying in the next build, Microsoft will add the boot to desktop option!

... So you can go right back to the Start screen to actually launch a program?

The whole point it goes the Start screen on boot is because it's quicker and one less step. Unless you plan to just stare at the desktop wallpaper and not start a program.

W32.Backdoor.KillAV.E said,

... So you can go right back to the Start screen to actually launch a program?

The whole point it goes the Start screen on boot is because it's quicker and one less step. Unless you plan to just stare at the desktop wallpaper and not start a program.

i have tons of stuff loaded at start up and one of them is my OSD created by myself using Aida64's sensor panel system. thanks though for being ignorant and selfish.
I have my own stuff running and using the desktop and what Microsoft is forcing on us interferes with all that, so the ol' you morons wanna stare at your desktop bs retort don't hold water.. sorry lol
try again ?

Likely just standard boilerplate text about being careful when you install alpha/beta software, especially an operating system.

This happened ages ago and was pointed out in the comments one of the other build topics.. something about mp3 being corrupted for those that installed or something.
But i agree they should word that a bit different or omit that part entirely.

I needed a portable computer so I went with the Surface, probably should have bought a Yoga... Anyway.. the OS is definitely designed for the Surface and forgets all other computers. I still installed Start8 on it because I love Start menu... but Win8 is FOR the Surface and not other computers.

SpyderCanopus said,
I needed a portable computer so I went with the Surface, probably should have bought a Yoga... Anyway.. the OS is definitely designed for the Surface and forgets all other computers. I still installed Start8 on it because I love Start menu... but Win8 is FOR the Surface and not other computers.

You mean it's FOR Touchscreen based devices don't you? Surface is just a name for a tablet.

They made it for their tablet and sell licenses to let others imitate. It's the opposite of what they built their business on, but whatever.

Why all the windows 8 leak news?
Windows 8 sucks, that does not change.

They've increased the speed of the killing of Aero. They could leave Aero for people who have powerful computers and a SSD instead of a simplified example to make aero matte style for those with slower machines, and a hdd and everyone would be happy.
Already, many wrote that they could make separate windows for their tablets and PC, but they just do not care for classic PC and spat in his face.
Not only that, there is no start menu, so there are no Aero, no way to disable the Metro for those to whom it is not necessary. There is no way to disable hot corners.
They let apps running in full screen mode only and no more windowed like before.
So even if they return the Start menu (which is unlikely) they will not refund Aero and will not give an option to disable the hot corners. Yet another disadvantage of this sludge - is the lack of classic games by default, I have to go into the store and download theirs ****ing card. Which are also not run in desktop mode.
Windows 8 = Not improved, it's Windows 7 that is brutally chopped and damaged Windows OS for housewives and tablets. Therefore, the less people will install this ****, the more it comes to Microsoft that they screwed up 8.1. The fact that the weather will not make it for sure, but maybe something will change in 9.

Dutchman01 said,
Why all the windows 8 leak news?
Windows 8 sucks, that does not change.

They've increased the speed of the killing of Aero. They could leave Aero for people who have powerful computers and a SSD instead of a simplified example to make aero matte style for those with slower machines, and a hdd and everyone would be happy.
Already, many wrote that they could make separate windows for their tablets and PC, but they just do not care for classic PC and spat in his face.
Not only that, there is no start menu, so there are no Aero, no way to disable the Metro for those to whom it is not necessary. There is no way to disable hot corners.
They let apps running in full screen mode only and no more windowed like before.
So even if they return the Start menu (which is unlikely) they will not refund Aero and will not give an option to disable the hot corners. Yet another disadvantage of this sludge - is the lack of classic games by default, I have to go into the store and download theirs ****ing card. Which are also not run in desktop mode.
Windows 8 = Not improved, it's Windows 7 that is brutally chopped and damaged Windows OS for housewives and tablets. Therefore, the less people will install this ****, the more it comes to Microsoft that they screwed up 8.1. The fact that the weather will not make it for sure, but maybe something will change in 9.

Having a SSD or HDD doesn't have anything to do if someone should have Aero or not.

Also, the whole argument about 'Aero' draining batteries faster is a load of crap since Aero is just a 'theme' and the GPU is still rendering the display regardless if the something is transparent or not.

I rarely used the Start Menu. My most frequent applications are on my taskbar. Microsoft are improving the 'search' feature with avoids putting the screen into metro when you start searching, so it pretty much acts like the whole Start menu does. (this is coming in 8.1 from what I've seen).

The corners can be disabled but you need to do some registery trickery.

I never cared for the builtin games, I have Steam, I have games that I want to play on there and Windows 8 doesn't do anything to stop me from doing that.

There have been rumours about Boot to Desktop being 8.1 so try and wait for that.

Windows 8 is an improvement, maybe it's debatable about the UI but the underlaying system is definitely lighter, faster and more optimised with new features.

Windows 8 might be aimed more towards touchscreen devices but the system is still very much like Windows. I can install and use the applications I want without the Metro UI getting in the way.

Your comment about housewives is a little disrespectful.

Metro does nothing to stop you from doing the things you want to do. The UI has changed, yes, but it's happened and the whole UI needed work for touchscreen devices anyway.

People who think Windows 9 will step away from Metro are deluded since Microsoft are clearly not going back on Metro, they are just refining it a bit more with 8.1.

Dutchman01 said,
Why all the windows 8 leak news?
Windows 8 sucks, that does not change.

They've increased the speed of the killing of Aero. They could leave Aero for people who have powerful computers and a SSD instead of a simplified example to make aero matte style for those with slower machines, and a hdd and everyone would be happy.
Already, many wrote that they could make separate windows for their tablets and PC, but they just do not care for classic PC and spat in his face.
Not only that, there is no start menu, so there are no Aero, no way to disable the Metro for those to whom it is not necessary. There is no way to disable hot corners.
They let apps running in full screen mode only and no more windowed like before.
So even if they return the Start menu (which is unlikely) they will not refund Aero and will not give an option to disable the hot corners. Yet another disadvantage of this sludge - is the lack of classic games by default, I have to go into the store and download theirs ****ing card. Which are also not run in desktop mode.
Windows 8 = Not improved, it's Windows 7 that is brutally chopped and damaged Windows OS for housewives and tablets. Therefore, the less people will install this ****, the more it comes to Microsoft that they screwed up 8.1. The fact that the weather will not make it for sure, but maybe something will change in 9.

They killed the 3D glass effects because gaudy, 3D effects, and skeuphomorphism is out, and flat design is in. It had nothing to do with hardware specs.

I've been using Windows 8 on my desktop since the betas, and I've had no issues. My mouse still works wonderfully well. But the classic desktop paradigm is outdated, it's about time someone has opened up the PC to a dynamic and always connected UX.

Metro is here to stay, and will be present in Windows 9.

Dot Matrix said,

But the classic desktop paradigm is outdated, it's about time someone has opened up the PC to a dynamic and always connected UX.

No its not. Its suited perfectly for what many people use PCs for - work. Dumbing down multi-tasking to the era of Windows 1.0 with no overlapping windows and fixed borders isn't an improvement. Flicking between full screen apps. You know what OS that's like? iOS.

Metro offers nothing to people who use their computers for more than Angry Birds and YouTube. Its laughable that Microsoft is trying to make this the replacement for the desktop on every device.

-=Outlaw=- said,
hmmm, i got windows 8 on a non touch screen desktop and have no issues with it at all.

One size does not fit all... Personally I like the potential, meant as an Aristotelian concept of potential, of Metro; as it is right now it does not allow to exploit the full power of existing apps, OneNote MX is a good example, but I am sure it could grow and one day could even be used to replace the desktop. Maybe W11 or W12...... surely not W9 as some people are predicting though.

Joswin said,

No its not. Its suited perfectly for what many people use PCs for - work. Dumbing down multi-tasking to the era of Windows 1.0 with no overlapping windows and fixed borders isn't an improvement. Flicking between full screen apps. You know what OS that's like? iOS.

Metro offers nothing to people who use their computers for more than Angry Birds and YouTube. Its laughable that Microsoft is trying to make this the replacement for the desktop on every device.

... Right. Because I can't have multiple apps open...?

Dot Matrix said,
They killed the 3D glass effects because gaudy, 3D effects, and skeuphomorphism is out, and flat design is in.

This is why one year and a half after the Windows 8 Beta and almost a year since the final version was released on MSDN, it is still at 3% of the PC's worldwide, ok, almost 4%

The people just love the flat interface sooooooo much that they chose to keep it in the garbage bin where it belongs

The world hates the Windows 8 UI and some manager at Microsoft loves it, Windows 8 reputation will deteriorate, the people will look at the competition (they already do) and the people who love flat sooo much at Microsoft will get fired, and the rest of the story is known: "hey, we listened, we put that thing back"

Dot Matrix said,

... Right. Because I can't have multiple apps open...?


Multiple, windowed Metro apps.... no, you cannot. My guess is that it will be possible in the future and it will be an OS feature, not added using a third party software.

Fritzly said,

Multiple, windowed Metro apps.... no, you cannot. My guess is that it will be possible in the future and it will be an OS feature, not added using a third party software.

You will be able to stack apps side by side.

Dot Matrix said,

You will be able to stack apps side by side.


Yes but side by side is not as flexible and convenient, at least for me, as windowed.
And again: I am sure that this capability will be added and the sooner the better.

Dot Matrix said,

They killed the 3D glass effects because gaudy, 3D effects, and skeuphomorphism is out, and flat design is in. It had nothing to do with hardware specs.

I've been using Windows 8 on my desktop since the betas, and I've had no issues. My mouse still works wonderfully well. But the classic desktop paradigm is outdated, it's about time someone has opened up the PC to a dynamic and always connected UX.

Metro is here to stay, and will be present in Windows 9.

Only you could take a butt ugly UI and make it sound like it's a move forward. How exactly is making the entire UI of Windows a monotone mess with absolutely no definition an improvement? If that's what you think is progress you may as well just go back to Windows 3.1

some people like ugly stuff and some will devote creepy amounts of time into praising and promoting ugly UI's too.
you have to be deaf dumb and blind to not hear the large public outcry to this Metro crap ..screaming its good louder than those that say its bad won't make it true sorry.

And the UI ? it's different I'll say that lol
But do i claim that just because something is changed its better and it personifies a revolution in desktop computing ? hell no lol
I guess it was so bad because for years before Windows 8 was released all i heard everywhere across the net was complaining about how bad the windows start menu is and that it so archaic people couldn't stand it any longer.. clearly something had to be done.. so Microsoft listened to the large outcry from the public over this horrible skeuphomorphism and gaudy 3D effects.. they screamed LOUD please give us Windows 3.1 styled "sort of" windows for the desktop and give us no windows for the Metro/Modern/Whatever their called apps windows lol

..back to my sandbox (i'm not ready for the future if this is what its gonna be like)

and yeah that was English.. if you don't understand what i said go back to school and work on reading comprehension. I get the feeling there will be no difficulty understanding what i said here if people agree with me, hmm i wonder why that might be hmmmm ??????

Edited by spoetnik, May 1 2013, 8:43pm :

Dot Matrix said,

They killed the 3D glass effects because gaudy, 3D effects, and skeuphomorphism is out, and flat design is in. It had nothing to do with hardware specs.

Just like 1985? I guess we'll have to wait for another 20 years in order to get something similar to Aero's translucency and effects, eh?

Edited by Ian W, May 2 2013, 9:25am :

Ian William said,

Just like 1985? I guess we'll have to wait for another 20 years in order to get something similar to Aero's translucency and effects, eh?

What?

Joswin said,

No its not. Its suited perfectly for what many people use PCs for - work. Dumbing down multi-tasking to the era of Windows 1.0 with no overlapping windows and fixed borders isn't an improvement. Flicking between full screen apps. You know what OS that's like? iOS.

Metro offers nothing to people who use their computers for more than Angry Birds and YouTube. Its laughable that Microsoft is trying to make this the replacement for the desktop on every device.

How is app stacking any different than window stacking? I can still have multiple windows open in Metro, and coming in Blue, that ability will be greatly expanded upon.

Dot Matrix said,

What?

Sorry.
You said that "flat design is in" which reminded me of Windows 1 (released in 1985). The first time a finished build of Windows had something like Aero was in 2006.

Ian William said,

Sorry.
You said that "flat design is in" which reminded me of Windows 1 (released in 1985). The first time a finished build of Windows had something like Aero was in 2006.

Flat design != 16 bit colors.

These builds leak too frequently and offer nothing but a glimpse as what might be. I fail to see the attraction.

You guys should really proofread your article posts before posting them. With these leak news posts you have the title state one build number and the actual title of the article state a totally different build number. It would be a bit more professional. Just a word of advice!

Claims should also be backed up by facts:

"these builds are likely not stable and could corrupt any disk you install the files on."

Really? Come on.

Vannos said,
Claims should also be backed up by facts:

"these builds are likely not stable and could corrupt any disk you install the files on."

Really? Come on.

They are obviously just covering their backs, but it is partially true. I highly doubt these builds are stable, but they most likely won't corrupt your disk. That's pretty hard to do nowadays.