Windows 8.1 build 9415 screenshots appear

Screenshots have appeared of a new build of Windows 8.1 - build 9415 - that don't really show a great deal of new features, but nevertheless show the progress of Windows 8.1 as we approach a public Preview release of the operating system. The Chinese build, with screenshots posted on PCBeta, includes the Start button, however it doesn't look like it's visible all the time with the OS instead requiring a mouse-over in the bottom left corner to get it to appear.

Apart from the Start button we're seeing more of features that we've already reported on. Modern apps will be able to be snapped at a much greater range of widths, while Libraries appear to have been replaced by top-level folders in "This PC" (as it is rumored to be called in Windows 8.1). The Start screen is also seen, touting all four tile sizes that will be available in the update.

It's unclear at this stage whether this build of Windows will leak to the pubic, but if it doesn't it won't be too long until we'll have a public version of Windows 8.1 to test; Microsoft is preparing a Preview version for release on June 26th.

Source: PCBeta

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Because arguing on neowin actually gets something done...c'mon y'all. Thought there were respectable folks hanging out around these parts..Guess I've been away for too long or something.

Ir seems Ill be sticking to Windows 7 for the foreseeable future. 8 has nothing for me. Desktop rules. Touch is for tablet and Phones, no touch yet for desktop as far as the majority is concerned.

I find it difficult to believe that since the release of Windows 7, with all the love for Aero designs and people talking it up on modifying the UI to ones liking that, how have attitudes changes for touchscreens?

seems like a MS jealousy to get into the touchscreen market against Apple. While Apple has it's snob "I'm better then thou" mentality, MS seems to be generating the same nose bleed section of market share.

Windows 8 will certainly nuke some customers to whatever degree.

With my games on Steam, I might be moving to React OS or Linux. Either way, I'm getting what I need and what I want. Probably by 2014/2015. Windows 9 will determine this also with finality.

Any clue if WinRT is still multi-monitor oblivious? I get why it is that way for tablets, but for PCs, it is practically multimon hostile. That part of the experience definitely needs a LOT more work. They could easily allow one of the monitors to optionally be dedicated to the start screen and RT apps - it would be a huge step forward.

Frankly, I don't use many WinRT apps, because I am rarely in the start screen, and if I do use an app, the second I click on my desktop in another monitor, it vanishes. That kind of experience TRAINS you avoid their apps and just stick with the desktop stuff.

Xepol said,
Any clue if WinRT is still multi-monitor oblivious? I get why it is that way for tablets, but for PCs, it is practically multimon hostile. That part of the experience definitely needs a LOT more work. They could easily allow one of the monitors to optionally be dedicated to the start screen and RT apps - it would be a huge step forward.

Frankly, I don't use many WinRT apps, because I am rarely in the start screen, and if I do use an app, the second I click on my desktop in another monitor, it vanishes. That kind of experience TRAINS you avoid their apps and just stick with the desktop stuff.

As of the 8.1 update, Metro WILL support multimon setups, yes.

Please tell me they are not going to send out the preview with the Start Button popping up and covering the first program pinned to the taskbar. For the love of...

Pulagatha said,
Please tell me they are not going to send out the preview with the Start Button popping up and covering the first program pinned to the taskbar. For the love of...

It must be Ballmer's idea. I laughed seeing how Microsoft says they have listened to all the feedback.

Where is the start button? I am remaining optimistic that MS will adjust Windows and not hide the features us desktop users actually want. When it comes to mobile Im on Android and quite happy, its just a pity I cant say the same for my desktop OS anymore!

OMG, how revolutionary. It looks like you can pick from about 256 colors for your base metro disgust. Wow Microsoft, big jump there from 4bit to 8bit color! YAY! GO MS! Take your ****ing ugly ****, and give me back my transparency and drop shadows.

runningnak3d said,
OMG, how revolutionary. It looks like you can pick from about 256 colors for your base metro disgust. Wow Microsoft, big jump there from 4bit to 8bit color! YAY! GO MS! Take your ****ing ugly ****, and give me back my transparency and drop shadows.

2007 called, it wants its skeuphomorphism back.

Dot Matrix said,

2007 called, it wants its skeuphomorphism back.


The 80's called, they want their completely flat unappealing UI back.

Good thing Windows Customization is the biggest OS customization world out there.
Want windows 8 to look like Windows 7? Fine.
Want it to look exactly like 2000/XP Classic? Perfectly fine.

That it doesn't come out of the box, doesn't mean it cant be adjusted to suit your own needs.

And if its WinRT you talk off, which is the tablet OS. iOS isn't much better to look at (if at all) and Android throws so many flashy graphics it feels like you're in a boring unfinished videogame.

Ambroos said,

The 80's called, they want their completely flat unappealing UI back.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum...m5pkbm499O1rwcc6bo1_500.gif

Looks like we will be stuck with the 90s AOL inspired Metro for a while. The start button instead of the start box thing is weird. Auto hiding. Perhaps it does that on touch systems only... but I care more about the mention of an applications list from said button INSTEAD of it bringing up those vomit inducing blocks of flashing hell. I mean Modern UI.

Wyn6 said,
The Dark Ages called. They want their lack of progress and fear of technological advances back.

Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?

Wyn6 said,
The Dark Ages called. They want their lack of progress and fear of technological advances back.

It's absolutely not that, but as someone who has no use for Metro apps it's just really not fun to be stuck with the way the Desktop looks now: unfinished, bland and distracting.

What exactly did this solve? It's the same disappearing button only a different graphic...

I mean, I'm used to it at this point, but for those complaining, this did nothing... And for those remote desktoping, it is still going to be very hard / or impossible to open the start screen...

M_Lyons10 said,
What exactly did this solve? It's the same disappearing button only a different graphic...

I mean, I'm used to it at this point, but for those complaining, this did nothing... And for those remote desktoping, it is still going to be very hard / or impossible to open the start screen...

No, this is how it will look if you do not pin the startbutton to the desktop, else it will just stay there and the other icons will move to the right a bit.

Studio384 said,
No, this is how it will look if you do not pin the startbutton to the desktop, else it will just stay there and the other icons will move to the right a bit.

Ah, now that makes a bit more sense.

Why am I seeing different colored tiles for desktop apps here?! Did the tiles for desktop apps automatically change color to match the icons like the taskbar does?!

hungb.nguyen said,
Why am I seeing different colored tiles for desktop apps here?! Did the tiles for desktop apps automatically change color to match the icons like the taskbar does?!

It appears that way... HM... I'm curious to see what colors my programs tiles wind up being...

my biggest gripe to be honest are programs that don't have a very large icon available and instead show a small icon...

parengputik said,
I'll miss the libraries feature.

Some site speculation says that it doesn't looks like it's gone exactly, but tweaked a bit. Relocated, not created by default anymore, different name. If you put stock in that sort of thing of course, although I'll wait for the preview myself.. rather fond of the libraries too, tweaks I can live with, removal not so much.

Max Norris said,

Some site speculation says that it doesn't looks like it's gone exactly, but tweaked a bit. Relocated, not created by default anymore, different name. If you put stock in that sort of thing of course, although I'll wait for the preview myself.. rather fond of the libraries too, tweaks I can live with, removal not so much.

Yes, they're no longer generated by default now, you can go in and manually make your own libraries. The default user folders are still the same, Documents, Music, Videos, Pictures and so on. The default Libraries mostly used those default folder locations in the end unless you manually added more locations to the library. In which case you'd be better off just making the Libraries you want on your own manually from the start.

I won't. They always annoyed me. Hid the path in to the folder and I never added any other folders to the library. Just annoying.

So this new start button.. instead of hovering over the lower left corner and seeing a start tile you now see a start button. That's it?

I don't see how that is going to change the end-user experience. IMO the main problem is that you need to hover over the lower left corner to see it in the first place. Same with the charms. The whole hidden UI takes some getting used to. Which is fine on tablets because hiding controlmenus opens up space for real content on such small screens.

But when someone buys a PC it is just annoying. There is plenty of space to show the actual startbutton as well as the charms. What Windows 8 needs is an on/off switch for the hidden UI. On by default on tablets, off on default on desktops/laptops. And when its off all the charms should (and the app-specific commandbar) should be visible on screen.

Ronnet said,
So this new start button.. instead of hovering over the lower left corner and seeing a start tile you now see a start button. That's it?

No.

singularity87 said,
If it is that then its worse - at least the Start tip was larger whereas this would be easy to slip back out of.

Have you used W8? The old icon disappears way before you move the cursor completely away, the area is very small.

I thought the same exact thing. However, maybe there's an option to hide the Start button kind of like hiding the taskbar and this user did that?

Mohitster said,
This does not seem real at all. Treatment of Start button on Desktop looks ****ty. Paul Thurrott had posted an article which had this image which he claims to be real one:
http://winsupersite.com/site-f...ds/2013/05/blue-desktop.jpg

Why do people suddenly think that that won't be how it works in the final? Because a leaked early version shows how it looks like if the permanent start button is disabled? This makes no sense at all.

dr_crabman said,

Why do people suddenly think that that won't be how it works in the final? Because a leaked early version shows how it looks like if the permanent start button is disabled? This makes no sense at all.


Yeah, I would be very O.K. with it being an option... Maybe it shows automatically for RDP connections too or something...

The Article said,
includes the Start button, however it doesn't look like it's visible all the time with the OS instead requiring a mouse-over in the bottom left corner to get it to appear.

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you're one of those three or four people who have never ever used Windows and don't know how to bring up the menu, it still wouldn't give you that "hey, click over here" vibe. Otherwise you already know what happens when you click down there and changing the image from the start screen to the Windows logo is pointless. Going to chalk that one up to "work in progress."

Liking the rest of the changes though. Glad to see "My" disappear too, always thought that looked amateurish.. one less thing to rename.

Max Norris said,

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you're one of those three or four people who have never ever used Windows and don't know how to bring up the menu, it still wouldn't give you that "hey, click over here" vibe. Otherwise you already know what happens when you click down there and changing the image from the start screen to the Windows logo is pointless. Going to chalk that one up to "work in progress."

Liking the rest of the changes though. Glad to see "My" disappear too, always thought that looked amateurish.. one less thing to rename.


Agreed. Changing the image didn't accomplish anything... Lol. Hopefully this is a work in progress...

So Microsoft havent really improved Windows at all then if they are going to continue with hiding features most asked for by users or not incorporating them at all.

Anarkii said,
So Microsoft havent really improved Windows at all then if they are going to continue with hiding features most asked for by users or not incorporating them at all.

the builds have features hidden unless a proper activation key is used otherwise you wont see anything different its the same as the leaked builds for windows 8 and past ones.

If you'd go outside...you'd see theres a life your missing out on. Seriously. Step away from the keyboard. Sun. Catch some rays. Stop messing up mommies computer, she'll appreciate you more. Nothings wrong with 7 or 8. Learning curve issue much? Much too much. Man up. That's all you have to do. Grow a pair, come back in five years, and complain about win 10. Rolls eyes.

Edited by Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jun 3 2013, 5:03am : oops