Windows Blue build 9364 leaked to the internet

A Microsoft partner build of Windows Blue that appears to be build 9364 has leaked to the internet today, the first publicly available leaked build of Windows since well before the launch of Windows 8. The build, believed to be of Windows Blue Milestone 1, has only been leaked in the 32-bit edition as a 2.63 GB ISO, and with a partial filename of 9364.0.FBL_PARTNER_OUT13.130315-2105_X86FRE_CLIENT_EN-US it appears to be sourced from the United States.

Checks on the setup.exe within the download have confirmed that at least part of the ISO is legitimate, however the slow three-part download means that we haven't been able to fully verify the contents of this build. A screenshot has been leaked accompanying the release of the build to the web, which shows a full build string including the unique build ID which will no doubt land some people in hot water.

We aren't as yet sure what new features this build of Windows Blue will reveal, but as people methodically check through the leak we'll be sure to report on anything interesting that's found.

Via: Windows9Beta | Thanks for the tip, Rahul!

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That task manager is absolutely ugly. Looks like a kindergartner designed it. Whatever happened to a few years back when the desktop and OS were being beautified with third party works like icon packages, fonts, wallpapers and themes?

ChrisJ1968 said,
Whatever happened to a few years back when the desktop and OS were being beautified with third party works like icon packages, fonts, wallpapers and themes?

Meh there isn't an OS out there that I've liked visually out of the box, for me it's a tossup between 8 and XP for my vote for fugliest. But there's still plenty of third party stuff being done. Even for Windows 8.

thexfile said,
I'm still not buying Windows 8.

Windows 7 isn't broke and newer isn't always better.


Windows 8 is better. I'm happy that I upgraded. Windows 8 is more refined under the hood.
Vista wasn't broke either.
The only version of Windows that was broke was Millenium Edition.

i've tried it, i couldn't say a good thing about it. first of all, those start screen changer things DON'T DO SH*T. you can click around but they don't work. other than that, nothing interesting besides random display glitches...

but anyway, windows update's not working. that means i couldn't install .net framework 2.0 & 3.5 because those want to download stuff from winupdate. yes, i tried to download the FULL installer (200 megs), it still wants to download from winupdate and will fail.

that means i couldn't install the windows 7 usb download tool either to go back to win8. then i tried the bootsect method, it whined about incompatibility with my system. finally, i found some "iso to usb" app which could "burn" my win8 iso to pendrive (but only with fat32 formatting, ntfs failed).

so atm this build is nothing but trouble, stay away from it.

bviktor said,
i've tried it, i couldn't say a good thing about it. first of all, those start screen changer things DON'T DO SH*T. you can click around but they don't work. other than that, nothing interesting besides random display glitches...

but anyway, windows update's not working. that means i couldn't install .net framework 2.0 & 3.5 because those want to download stuff from winupdate. yes, i tried to download the FULL installer (200 megs), it still wants to download from winupdate and will fail.

that means i couldn't install the windows 7 usb download tool either to go back to win8. then i tried the bootsect method, it whined about incompatibility with my system. finally, i found some "iso to usb" app which could "burn" my win8 iso to pendrive (but only with fat32 formatting, ntfs failed).

so atm this build is nothing but trouble, stay away from it.


Wow. What exactly did you expect? It's only Milestone 1... That's pre beta!

This is why Microsoft doesn't allow everyone access to the early versions. They're buggy and beyond the abilities of your average person...

bviktor said,
i expected them not to break things that already worked.
That's an expectation for disaster. Most of the time, things break because you add something that you think shouldn't break. That's why last minute features are very dangerous in software development (or even hardware). Plus, the leaked build is probably from FBL (Feature Build Lab) so that each team tests their features out. Only winmain build contains everything integrated assuming they are stable enough.

Oh look, they're doing the same thing they did to Vista SP3 to Windows 8; releasing it as a new OS.

Yet another OS I'm not going to touch.

The rate at which they're doing this is ridiculous now.

DAOWAce said,
Oh look, they're doing the same thing they did to Vista SP3 to Windows 8; releasing it as a new OS.

<mainpoint>Yet another OS I'm not going to touch.</mainpoint>

We don't need such rapid releases of OS. Microsoft will ruin themselves going down this path.

The rate at which they're doing this is ridiculous now.

Ely said,
Can't wait to try it out, shame its only 32bit, gonna have to test on virtual machine then.

Why would you install this outside of a VM?

I believe they are talking about as you use the OS and open other apps the footprint for Windows drops with a more memory efficient use of resources in Blue.

Well crap! Something tells me that when Steve Ballmer finds this out he won't have such a happy birthday! And neither will the guy who will soon more than likely loose his job have a happy day in general!

download: [snipped. Do not link to potentially illegal downloads, please. - Anthony]

Edited by Anthony Tosie, Mar 24 2013, 3:20pm :

At this point I don't know why they are still making 32-bit versions. Who in the world still has a 32-bit CPU and how many years has it been since they even made them? I think it's time to let go.

I am running Windows 8 Pro 32 bit on a Pentium 64 bit processor at work with 1.5 GBs of RAM and its slow. Now imagine running Windows 8 64 bit on it? I am sure Windows 8 64 bi can't run great on a AMD 64 chip from 2003, but the 32 bit version would probably fair better.

Also, 64 bit thrives when you have a lot of RAM that is the purpose of 64 bit processors to access a larger memory address space. If you don't have the RAM, there is no point in having a 64 bit OS. In fact, when I started with Windows XP Professional x64 back in 2005, I only had 512 MBs of RAM. I was not realizing the benefits of 64 bit Windows and didn't do so until 2008 when I could afford to upgrade to 4 GBs of RAM.

32bit varients exist in part because 64bit Windows isn't compatible with 16bit applications and many businesses rely on extremely old applications for which there are no newer versions.

A lot of old PCI/ISA controller cards (and yes, even ISA still see's use in some segments of the market) require 16bit applications to modify relevant settings for the cards as well.

MS would be leaving a not insignificant number of extremely profitable institutions blocked from running modern variants of Windows if they did.
For better or worse Windows X32 is here to stay for another half decade or so at least.

TRC said,
At this point I don't know why they are still making 32-bit versions. Who in the world still has a 32-bit CPU and how many years has it been since they even made them? I think it's time to let go.

Everyone has a 32bit CPU, that's more then the 64bit... but even 64bit CPUs aren't true 64bit anyway.

Some tablet platforms are still only 32-bit, plus apparently 32-bit Windows is a lot easier to run many instances of on a hypervisor. Which makes you wonder why they don't have a 32-bit server . . .

TRC said,
At this point I don't know why they are still making 32-bit versions. Who in the world still has a 32-bit CPU and how many years has it been since they even made them? I think it's time to let go.
atom processors were 32, p4 was 32, and it's easier to test in virtual machines

It seems that the possibility for users to pin folders to the Computer in Explorer is new (or the screenshot shows also a modded registry)...

Windows 8 needs more time to be polished. for example, ie10 (newui) needs a zoom button.
and i think many products are confusing. windows 8 needs to be only one or two products.
windows 8 (x64 with 32 bits capabilities), home o pro. and needs to include a starter office 2013 version like the RT.

Why would IE 10 need a zoom button? On a desktop, you can just use Ctrl. + Scroll wheel, and on tablets you use pinch to zoom/double tap. Adding a zoom button seems kinda pointless.

FrankLink's said,
ie10 (newui) needs a zoom button

Push CTRL and + at the same time.


and i think many products are confusing. windows 8 needs to be only one or two products. windows 8 (x64 with 32 bits capabilities), home o pro.

That's already the case. Your only choices as a consumer are Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro.

meh,

Blue still doesn't look like fixing Win8 UX issues. so all we have are mini tiles and more colors, so far. meh .

nor any word on core apps. These cosmetic things are nice, but not what people are waiting for. It's just an early leak though. Blue won't change anything without core app fixin', more functionality, and some UX tweaks.

Personally, the only UX fix needed is the Modern Search and context menus. It's really all about the core app functionality or lack thereof.

Core app updates should be coming to the current version of Win8, maybe next month. Let's hope they're substantial.

MorganX said,
nor any word on core apps. These cosmetic things are nice, but not what people are waiting for. It's just an early leak though. Blue won't change anything without core app fixin', more functionality, and some UX tweaks.

Personally, the only UX fix needed is the Modern Search and context menus. It's really all about the core app functionality or lack thereof.

With my system tools I can see that there are updates pending for all internal apps however you need a MS pre release account to download them. I'm working on fiddling the traffic to see if I can get direct downloads and sideload them!

guru said,
meh,

Blue still doesn't look like fixing Win8 UX issues. so all we have are mini tiles and more colors, so far. meh .


It is a M1, isn't it? Be patient....

ingramator said,
PUMPED! More personalisation on start screen with more colour options and mini tiles! Will download and report back!

Yes, just saw the mini tiles!

ingramator said,
PUMPED! More personalisation on start screen with more colour options and mini tiles! Will download and report back!

Please report back if you can have the odd number of tiles on the start screen. Right now, they always snap together in pairs (single-tile column isn't possible).

Thanks!

Drossel said,

Please report back if you can have the odd number of tiles on the start screen. Right now, they always snap together in pairs (single-tile column isn't possible).

Thanks!

I'm on the download There are no torrents for it yet so once I've got the parts I'll be sure to add trackers to pirate bay and let Neowin users get a hold of the full image PM me if you need the direct download links, they were a bit difficult to find but I bet they will start exploding in a few hours.

Drossel said,

Please report back if you can have the odd number of tiles on the start screen. Right now, they always snap together in pairs (single-tile column isn't possible).

Thanks!


Yeah, this kind of annoys me too...

Vladislav Nagorny said,

To be a great fit for virtual machine

Yeah, definitely the way to go too. I don't know why you would ever install this outside of a VM...

Ambroos said,
Just so you know, X86FRE has nothing to do with France, it's more of a general identifier for x86 builds.

Correct, this is not a french build, as shown in the screenshot its an EN-US build.

Will be interesting to see if the build contains any major features.

I will reserve judgement on the memory improvement pending what services are running.

Osiris said,
Will be interesting to see if the build contains any major features.

I will reserve judgement on the memory improvement pending what services are running.

Already I can see that they have integrated a lot of the control panel settings into PC settings as well as adding way more functionality to charm menu items, start screen enhancements and by the looks of things cut down on OS footprints. I'll be sure to give a full report once its complete! It's crawlin along a DD server at the moment

ingramator said,

Already I can see that they have integrated a lot of the control panel settings into PC settings as well as adding way more functionality to charm menu items, start screen enhancements and by the looks of things cut down on OS footprints. I'll be sure to give a full report once its complete! It's crawlin along a DD server at the moment

Yeah please do, certainly looks like they have gone down the Metro path further with the OS, and I am liking the look of the results.

WIll be interesting to hear how it performs and what else is in there

Osiris said,

Yeah please do, certainly looks like they have gone down the Metro path further with the OS, and I am liking the look of the results.

WIll be interesting to hear how it performs and what else is in there

I've got it! Check out my forum post for an eff load of screenshots and info!

ingramator said,

I've got it! Check out my forum post for an eff load of screenshots and info!


Could you post the link please?
I mean for your forum....

sagum said,

You see what Microsoft did? made windows 8 very limited on colors by default so people would be excited when they added it back as a choice. Woo!


Or they gave you the colors that looked best with the given background designs. Maybe they fixed the problem that they were preventing with the limited color set.

Seriously that is mental, how much RAM does W8 use by default? This is making me want to try out server 2012... As much as I love 03 R2, 400MB RAM on a full desktop GUI means even less on the server distro! God damn that's good.

Hopefully someone confirms this with regular services running, if it really is true than there's really nothing more to say than God damn!

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Hopefully someone confirms this with regular services running, if it really is true than there's really nothing more to say than God damn!

Confirmed! Overall memory footprint has dropped! What I can see is a better adaptive RAM setup where the more application RAM you use the smaller the OS footprint becomes! No service cuts or tweaks here and I'm at a comfortable 500MB with a few system tools open!

That is crazy. I know Windows 7 had/has a 1 GB footprint, and Windows 8 was less than that.

I just had to switch back to 7 sadly since my laptops GFX suck on 8. But, I love 8 on my desktop.

scorpian007 said,
Using only 400MB RAM? That's crazy

The memory usage scales to what you have. If you have 96GB of RAM it isn't going to use 400MB on a fresh install. Since that screenshot only shows a total of 1GB, of course it's going to be low.

How much ram WIndows uses depends on how much you've got. It'll be less shy about using memory if you've got a ton sitting around.

ingramator said,

Confirmed! Overall memory footprint has dropped! What I can see is a better adaptive RAM setup where the more application RAM you use the smaller the OS footprint becomes! No service cuts or tweaks here and I'm at a comfortable 500MB with a few system tools open!

It'll be really interesting to see what they did to achieve this.

Did they turn off some of the lesser-used services that are only useful in an enterprise context? Or did they do some further reengineering?

In Windows 8, they actually rearranged the layout of functions in the DLL, so that related functions all fit on the same memory page.