Windows Live Messenger closes March 15th (except in China)

While Microsoft gave all of us a heads up several months ago that Windows Live Messenger would soon be retired, we now have a definitive end date for the company's online messaging client. The company has now sent out emails to the remaining users of the program informing them that it will close up shop on March 15th.

The Next Web received the contents of the email, which also confirmed that Windows Live Messenger would continue to work in China past March 15th, due to the program's service being handled in that country by a third party company. Windows Live Messenger will be replaced everywhere else by Skype, which Microsoft acquired in October 2011.

The process for those few remaining users of Live Messenger to transfer to Skype should be pretty straightforward. All they will have to do before the end date comes is download the latest version of Skype and sign on using their Microsoft Account login and password. Their Windows Live Messenger contacts should be transferred over to their Skype client.

If you are one of those stubborn people that hate change in their lives ... well, too bad. After March 15th, people who keep trying to sign in using Windows Live Messenger will be given a notification to download and use Skype from then on.

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Anyone else enjoying the expected "Sorry, something went wrong." error messages in skype lately or am I the only one? Hilarious, surely Microsoft will find a way to ruin skype permanently.

Does anybody know how to save the custom emoticons that were saved within MSN Messenger? I can't seem to find a file to get the images

It'd probably be best to switch over to Gmail and use one of the many notifier programs for it. (hell, even chrome alerts you)

I've had 5 hotmail accounts for a long time and I made the switch to Gmail back in 2007. I honestly never want to use another e-mail service again, though I still keep my hotmail accounts for very specific things. Hard to break some habits.

Main reason for using WLM is its Hotmail new mail notification. From what I read, Skype don't have this feature. Need a good Hotmail new e-mail notification utility (that sits in the system tray) by 15 Mar 2013

I've used it since I was a a nipper, but recently I've had problems with it remebering my login details, so when I reboot I just assume it's loaded up and logged me, turns out it doesn't and its usually days until I notice, so I won't really be missing it.

I tend to use facebook messenger for instant chat with long distance friends these days

Really sad and frustrated to see Messenger go. So many useful features I use, but sadly probably on a minority actually use. I enjoyed being able to play games with people I chatted with, kept things going when things go boring or we had nothing to talk about. One huge feature we enjoyed was photo sharing. Another important feature I think is Remote Connect, made it so easy to be able to work on another person's computer this way. I think they should have gone the other direction and just enveloped Skype into their Messenger service, but I guess the name Skype is just too big to do that, and would just create bad press. Messenger had everything Skype can do, including sending free SMS, another huge feature I used.
Going to Skype, there are a multitude of disadvantages. The interface is really horrible for IM, windows can only be sized down so much. Profiles are very public (a lot of your details are just thrown out into the public Skype domain). There's no photo sharing or remote connect(there's screen sharing, but it's one way, and requires a call to be made first). It does get the basics down, but it is not in anyways a replacement for Messenger.

I'm another that uses photo sharing. I find it really nice to share imagines found on the web with other people. It really sucks that Skype just barely gets the basics down and Messenger users lose a lot of functionality.

Good riddance. Was a good program while it lasted, till it became obsolete.
I had many contacts at one time, but over the years they stopped using it. like everyone else, till I had no one left on my list. So yeah, pretty much a useless program these days.

Just made the change.
I've used MSN/Windows Messenger since... well since i've used the Internet. I don't remember a day where it hasn't been running on my machine either.

While i don't mind changing (gives me a good excuse to clean my contact list), i just hate to have to spend 10 minutes changing all the options. I don't like sound with notifications, i don't like notifications for every little thing.

Plus i don't like new messenger apps because i don't fully know what information it will share or get. I had this problem when Windows Messenger changed and went all social. Perhaps i should put my tin foil hat back on.

Lingwo said,
Just made the change.
I've used MSN/Windows Messenger since... well since i've used the Internet. I don't remember a day where it hasn't been running on my machine either.
^^ This

Not liking skype. It doesn't look nice/clean (altho i was running apatch & messenger+). It also seems to be very buggy. The transition seemed straightforward until it kept telling me that there was an 'unknown error' and to 'try again later'. Turned out that I needed to re-install it (after just having installed it) to get it to work. Not a good sign...

Oh well, I only had 2 good friends who still signed into MSN anyway, and I know a quite a few people who only used skype.

Well, I guess that means in March I can change my MicrosoftAccount first/last name to my Real name and stop using the nickname they removed from the service years before.

or take up ICQ again

I don't get some of this.

I created a skype account with my microsoft account and created my skype name as "live:<myemailalias>". It gave me all my messenger contacts, but I can't video call them. So i searched for my wife with that same thing, and hers popped up.

Do I have to add duplicate contacts for everyone? what am I missing here. This seems silly.

Oh, Microsoft, thanks for that pop up this morning about upgrading to Skype, I've got 13 more people I need to go fix rather than doing my regular work.

Does skype have photo slide sharing the way WLM does? If not, I hope they put it in. It's very convenient to drag photos in chat as quick slides.

Skype is not a proper replacement until:
- it uses Microsoft Account connected services (Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn) instead of manually readding them.
- Linked contacts (WLM flawlessly handled this without duplicating contacts like Skype does)
- Better UI and IM window
- Other important WLM features: offline messaging, instant photo sharing, file sharing, voice/video clips
- Same cleaner emojicons that Messaging app uses

All the Skype apps (desktop/Win8/mobile) need a MAJOR revamp if they want a proper switch to Skype. It just doesn't feel like it's Microsoft quality. They own Skype so they should make it theirs.

What I find irritating is...when a software company buys another company...the one that has to adapt is the consumer by not offering you a choice to choose whether you want to stay with one type of software..or move to another way to communicate.

It's almost like a pizza from a place you loved for years and years...then all of the sudden..a company buys out that pizza place and tells you...we are using different pizza sauce and ingredients...so you now have to eat our pizza...and if you don't like it...there's plenty of other pizza places you can go.

And that's the most irritating...cause now as a pizza lover of that kind of pizza...I now have to go into research mode to find something that is at least close to the kind of pizza I loved.

Same with software...and messaging services...cause now people that have used Windows messenger for over 10 years...now must either adapt to Skype..or research to find something similar to Windows messenger.

Does anyone know if there is a plugin or a fix that makes WLM keep working after this date? Skype to me is like moving back to the stone ages. So if anyone knows a fix, i'm happy to know

Been using MSN Messeger/WLM since 1.0, it always seemed nicer than Yahoo, ICQ, etc. It was fun to patch it to remove the ads, I recall anxiously waiting for the Plus! developer and (after that guy was picked up by MS) Ahmad to released their new versions every time Messenger was updated. Still got most of the chat logs that were saved by Plus! before WLM introduced its own logging feature...looking at them now it's like a time capsule of people that flitted in and out of my life in the past 13 years

I'm already using Skype. Not actually bad, but strange thing is that I can't get good voice chat as I did with Messenger. In skype I get a lot of "white noise", sometimes louder than voice. With Messenger it was almost like talking face to face. Something isn't right with Skype.

I'm sure I had to have read the announcement about it being shut down some where, but I don't remember that. Shocked me, at least, when I first saw this on the front page.

Think I used it once in my life! Does anyone use IM's regularly anyway?

What will Andrea Borman do now?

edit: on another note MS needs to sort out 2 things. First is the already mentioned interface and 2, merge contacts together from skype and messenger.

Microsoft, you have 2 months. Crack the whip!

This would be fine but T-Mobile in the UK block Skype over 3G so it's actually a total hassle. I only want to use it for chatting, not VoIP!

Memories memories... RIP WLM, you were better than AIM and Yahoo in most cases in terms of chats but majority ruled and I had contacts on the other networks >.<

Skype better get the facelift of it's life. Tabs? File transfer that doesn't suck? I would have rather seen the new interface before the old faithful goes away.

I'll be OK with using Skype for MSN although only thing that I don't seem to see is email notification (you know when MSN lets you know you got a email to your account) if skype put that in too then i'm sorted

I can give you a 'hacked' WLM 7.5 that still works if you want to re-experiance it before it finally closes to the world if you want?

I don't like Skype.

I like messenger.

I would enjoy the choice.

Well maybe I should change operating systems also to Linux and no more M$!

leesmithg said,
I don't like Skype.

I like messenger.

I would enjoy the choice.

Well maybe I should change operating systems also to Linux and no more M$!


Oh oh no nope. Microsoft has in the recent years donated quite a lot of code to Linux in various formats, even to the kernel as open source. You won't be getting away from Microsoft via Linux anymore .... best to try one of the BSD.. or go retro with MorphOS on a PPC.

Please, stop using the dollar sign in place of the S ... it's extremely childish.

Also, regarding choice, you do have a choice. You have a choice to move to any other protocol. Unfortunately, just because you and a few other people use a service that a company invented years back, doesn't mean it's a viable business service. Skype is a much more flexible system and for monetizing, a far better bet than MSN or Windows Live Messenger ever was. And Microsoft is a business. Plus, Skype's actually pretty damn good to be honest.

The amount of girls I've had sex with after chatting on msn... Fond memories. Will be sad to see it go. Still, now I find the girls elsewhere but hey...!

Spirit Dave said,
The amount of girls I've had sex with after chatting on msn... Fond memories. Will be sad to see it go. Still, now I find the girls elsewhere but hey...!

My thoughts exactly... The amount of dirty conversations that led to other things was crazy....

Spirit Dave said,
The amount of girls I've had sex with after chatting on msn... Fond memories. Will be sad to see it go. Still, now I find the girls elsewhere but hey...!

You'll never be wizard now.

I guess their isn't much point running WLM anymore now that there is Skype integration. I've moved all mine over and haven't really looked back.

Moved over to skype even though i am not the biggest fan of the UI and stuff, it seams to have everything WLM has but it's just not got the same feel/spark at all.

I remember the days of making skins for WLM/MSN and creating mods and i will miss all of those memorys, its going to be sad to see it closed down but it is a free messenger and there is no point in maintaining 2 clients when you can just maintain the 1 and most popular of the two.

WLM you shell be missed, and remembered as part of my childhood as sad as that sounds lol.

yap, microsoft is on the roll

windows 8
shutting down live messenger
getting rid of live apps
cancelling expressions
metro

microsoft is trully on the roll to bottom

That's what it was all about - to beat ICQ, which is still popular in CIS. WLM doesn't share even 0,5% here no matter how MS pushes it and how much they spend on it. But Skype managed to get high popularity along with ICQ and now replacing ICQ as main IM service. So MS had nothing else to do but to buy Skype.

Its not the point though, still shouldnt use more for the same features really, just shows poor coding, and that is saying something if it uses more RAM than WLM

Stocker360 said,
Its not the point though, still shouldnt use more for the same features really, just shows poor coding, and that is saying something if it uses more RAM than WLM

It's actually MORE ram required for LESS features. The Skype desktop app is so lacking and unintuitive compared to what WLM is. I really hope they conpleley rewrite the desktop app along with the other mobile apps.

Using more memory doesn't always mean poor coding. Best practices for coding do not always mean highest efficiency. Writing all software directly in assembly code would be the most efficient. Cleanly no one does that. Heck, almost no one uses C++ anymore, only for maintaining old code. It is true, modern developers don't spend as much time optimizing code. That might seem like a shame, in a perfect world they would. However, assuming that a company can afford to spend a given number of man hours on development and no more, is optimizing memory usage really top priority? I think most people would say they would rather see higher stability or new feature than a few MB less RAM usage.

Theres also the fact that RAM is there to be used. I've got a ton of RAM and i'd like stuff to make use of it, as RAM is FAR faster than using a HDD or even SSD for data storage.

But you're wasting your time trying to educate these people. They have probably copy pasted a line of HTML before and now think they're expert programmers.

I don't mind the change, and to be honest I'm not using WLM as I used too... but it's still a bit sad, I have lots of good memories from that software.. Oh well, time keeps moving forward....

I used MSN/WLM for about 14 years. you know that yahaoo messenger removed wlm from that yahoo company, because of old wlm will closed in march 2013.

I think Skype is good, but WLM has more features. Out of my head, I can think of offline messaging, instant photo sharing view, remote assistance integration, voice clip, more advanced multiple-places sign-in.

I personally don't care much as I use Skype only at the moment, but there is room for improvement.

I mostly don't get the deal on these: 1. Whether Skype is going to be always on or not. 2. Why the Windows 8 messaging app can't sync messages across devices. 3. Why this messaging app doesn't receive messages I get most of the time.

Axel said,
Damn you Microsoft. I hope they bloody fix the mess that is Skype with regards to basic IM.

I hope they fix the mess that is Skype's Windows 8 App, or at least update the built in windows 8 messenger service.

I agree. When Microsoft first made this announcement last year I switch to Skype (never having used Skype before). I couldn't figure out how to message on the dame program so I uninstalled it and re-installed WLM. Hopefully they will make the messaging function visibly obvious.

Am curious to know what will happen with the messenger integration in Windows Phone (the use of messenger to replace text). At the moment somehow skype messages go to the skype app, and messenger messages go to the messaging app. will the messaging disappear from the skype app then ?

It'll all work just fine. Skype uses Messenger technology and servers at the back and already, and has been for several months already. So all your Skype messages and existing windows live messages go via the same servers.

As for your windows phone (or Skype client) knowing what service is which. Your Skype account can already send/receive messages from Messenger contacts, but when the messenger closes down it simply won't matter as it won't be there anymore and your messenger client on the windows phone will just be integrated as a Skype text only service using Microsoft Account (prev Windows live account) for sign in.

sagum said,
Your Skype account can already send/receive messages from Messenger contacts, but when the messenger closes down it simply won't matter
I was wondering, will this make it possible to receive messages on Skype when the other party is offline? Or it wouldn't even matter because Microsoft is going for the "always online" idea with the Available/Invisible statuses?

sagum said,
It'll all work just fine. Skype uses Messenger technology and servers at the back and already, ...

Not to quibble, but isn't it the other way around?
Didn't neowin post two months ago about all messenger users have been ported to skype backend?

deadonthefloor said,

Not to quibble, but isn't it the other way around?
Didn't neowin post two months ago about all messenger users have been ported to skype backend?

"For the last six months or so we have been moving people to the Messenger backend,” says Snyder. “The big advantage there is that Skype doesn't always have to be running. It wakes up when it's time to deliver a chat message or call etc.” The changes also mean that around 80 percent of all IMs sent on Skype are sent over the new Messenger backend. Skype's Windows 8 app is the first to take advantage of this new model, with updates coming to iOS and Android later to complete feature parity."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1...s-release-date-october-26th

I've received no such email? I wasn't even aware WLM was getting shut down ah well, I'll just keep using it till it stops working I guess I'm all setup with Skype anyway so no drama, me just lazy.

Same here no email for me either perhaps they're in the process of sending them out a few thousand at a time and ours just haven't been sent yet

McKay said,
I hope Skype gets a facelift then, it just doesn't feel as good for IM'ing in.

This... for an IM client, the WLM has been far superior. Especially with A-patch such a clean and simple looking client. Even the ancient (90s) ICQ felt more bloated.
I Always hoped Skype somehow would be merged into WLM, not vice-versa as it is now.
At least I hope they make a theme thats identical at least

SuperKid said,
Will clients like Trillian, Adium etc be able to connect to Skype I wonder?

Trillian has been able to connect to Skype for well over a year. Btw there are some web based messaging systems like imo.im and plus.im that you might want to check out.