Windows Live Wave 4 roadmap leaked

News about the next version of Microsoft's Windows Live software and services offering (codenamed Wave 4) has been leaking all over the place recently, with milestone 2 of the actual Windows Live Essentials software package even appearing on the Internet last week.

So far the testing of the software has been kept very secretive, with apparently only 18 official testers outside Microsoft in Europe and a few more in North America. Now, however, a roadmap has been leaked detailing the dates of when the general public will finally be able to get their hands on an official version of Windows Live Wave 4.

Spanish blogger and official tester Francisco Martín García has shed more light on the current situation of Wave 4, confirming that the version that leaked last week was from milestone 2 (as indicated by its version number of 15.2.xxxx.xxx) and was "built between December 2009 and January 2010." Apparently just over a week ago testers received a milestone 3 version, built on 26 February 2010 and with version number 15.3.2634.226.

On to the actual roadmap, and García reveals the following dates:

  • 28 April - the selected testers "get access to latest builds"
  • 18 May - Windows Live 2010 M3 RTW (release to web)
  • 3 June - "complete public disclosure" (and compile date for the public beta, according to MuyWindows)
  • 7 June - "public beta" released
  • 7 June - Messenger for iPhone released in "main languages"
  • 25 August - "additional languages" for Messenger and iPhone, and public RTW of the final version

While this timetable of events hasn't been confirmed and if real will only be provisional, whatever happens it looks like we will have to wait for quite a while yet before trying out Windows Live Wave 4 for ourselves.

Update: Francisco Martín García's blog seems to have been taken down and his Windows Live profile removed. Unsurprisingly it seems Microsoft don't want this information out in the open. The information is still up at MuyWindows and Wikikou.fr.

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Can Microsoft please light a match under the asses of the Live team, they are officially the slowest developers ever!

CarlJ said,
Can Microsoft please light a match under the asses of the Live team, they are officially the slowest developers ever!

Yes please. Where are the new features? Picasa caught up to iPhoto, why is MS forcing me to resort to Picasa, when the Live software is supposed to be *Essential*?

CarlJ said,
Can Microsoft please light a match under the asses of the Live team, they are officially the slowest developers ever!

Well, to be fair, they're not just working on the live apps and services on the web. I think the live team has a big part in all the interoperablility going on with WP7s as well. So I'd cut them some slack.

There's also work on Office web apps as well I bet. I think that task is mostly in the live teams lap to work out I bet.

Edited by George P, Mar 22 2010, 7:14pm :

burnblue said,

Yes please. Where are the new features? Picasa caught up to iPhoto, why is MS forcing me to resort to Picasa, when the Live software is supposed to be *Essential*?

They are adding Face recognition and all other neat features in Live Photo Gallery. But they are not seen until Milestone 3. The version that is on the web is Milestone 2.

TechDudeGeorge said,

They are adding Face recognition and all other neat features in Live Photo Gallery. But they are not seen until Milestone 3. The version that is on the web is Milestone 2.

It's already in M2 build. It's seamlessly intgrated just like face detection. Just tag a few dozen faces, add a few more with same people in it, and watch the magic.

I'd say the RTW on 18th May is Milestone 3 (The latest version the Developers will have, which will have the social integration working,facail recognition etc) and the release 18th May is the Beta (Next Build up from Milestone 3)

Asked this on My Microsoft Life too (http://mymicrosoftlife.com/201...wave-4-timeline-to-release/), but since it is still waiting for moderation there:

I’m a little bit confused. What exactly is the difference between the RTW and the public beta?

Release To Web sounds like everybody will be able to get it on that day (18 May), am I right? If so, what more will Public Beta Day (7 June) add? A newer build? Or is RTW only to a limited group?

Menthix said,
Asked this on My Microsoft Life too (http://mymicrosoftlife.com/201...wave-4-timeline-to-release/), but since it is still waiting for moderation there:

I’m a little bit confused. What exactly is the difference between the RTW and the public beta?

Release To Web sounds like everybody will be able to get it on that day (18 May), am I right? If so, what more will Public Beta Day (7 June) add? A newer build? Or is RTW only to a limited group?

The RTW is for M3, aka, milestone 3. Testers right now have M2 builds. So it's not final version, think of it as beta 3 I suppose?

GP007 said,
The RTW is for M3, aka, milestone 3. Testers right now have M2 builds. So it's not final version, think of it as beta 3 I suppose?
So would that mean...
* 1: "selected testers get M3" (the ones who currently have an M2 build)
* 2: "the public gets M3"
* 3: "a larger group of managed testers gets M3" (similar to how Windows Live was tested in the past)


If 1 is true, then what about: 28 April - the selected testers "get access to latest builds" ?
If 2 is true, then what about: 7 June - "public beta" released ?
If 3 is true I wonder how large of a group, how to get in.
If something else is true, tell me

Edited by Menthix, Mar 22 2010, 6:45pm :

"7 June - Messenger for iPhone released in "main languages"" - lol probably release it as US only anyway

Still far too long none the less really.

Digitalx said,
"7 June - Messenger for iPhone released in "main languages"" - lol probably release it as US only anyway

Still far too long none the less really.

Seeing how the iPhones strongest market is the US it only makes sense that most apps target the US only, at least for the start.

Digitalx said,
"7 June - Messenger for iPhone released in "main languages"" - lol probably release it as US only anyway

Still far too long none the less really.


I doubt it'll be US only. Messenger is the dominant IM abroad. It wouldn't make sense to release it in the US only because a lot of people don't use it here.

Yes ... I seem to remember reading somewhere people were expecting the Wave 4 betas in Jan/Feb ...

Almost tempted to start the song "why are we waiting ..."

MS has a really slow pace compared to other companies now. people want software that continually evolves and doesn't stay stagnant for years

Co_Co said,
MS has a really slow pace compared to other companies now. people want software that continually evolves and doesn't stay stagnant for years

Agreed. IE is a perfect example. Its evolution is slow and deliberate. IE9 in 2011?