Windows Phone 7 copy/paste update rolled out to developers

Rumors of a major update to Windows Phone 7 due in early 2011 have circulated the web, but now it appears that some developer devices are receiving updates already. Most notibly, the update contains they very sought after feature, copy and paste. As Apple does with seeding new versions of iOS to developers, it appears that Microsoft is very much doing the same thing for developer devices.

The developer device to receive the update was the Samsung Taylor, which increases the version number of the OS to 7.0.7338.0. Retail devices are currently running 7.0.7004.0. A tipster for PocketNow claims that the Samsung Taylor got the update after being connected to the Zune software. There was a tweet sent out that claimed they also received an update on their developer device, the Samsung Taylor, showing that more than one person got the update.

The tipster also walked us through on just how copy and paste for the Windows Phone 7 platform works:

A user can tap a word in mail, IE, Word, etc and that word is then highlighted with arrows on both sides. One can then drag to the left or right to include more words. An icon appears above the highlighted word(s) (looks very similar to the copy icon in Office 2010) to copy. Open a new document, once the cursor is set/blinking and the soft keyboard appears, a paste icon (again, looks the same as the paste icon in Office 2010) is shown just above the top row of letters. In "Messaging", a user can long press a specific IM which open up the hidden menu that now includes copy. Paste where you wish...

Lack of support for copy and paste was an issue that the critics hit hard about the mobile platform. Adding support was a top priority for Microsoft, and seeding the update to developers shows they are well on their way to bringing a well-welcomed update to the public.

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I have personally made it over fifty years without having copy & paste on a smartphone and the inability has yet to send me to therapy. Trying to see the humour from all the "articulate (not!)" comments from the trolls of anti Microsoft world on the other hand.....

I think Microsoft would be smart to do numerous small updates for these "highly emotional but seldom used updates" The internet buzz it creates is amazing.

offroadaaron said,
zzzzzzzzzz it's copy paste, its hardly ever used, its like multitasking minimal use.

Not my usual style, but I'm gonna troll on that (not aimed at you offroadaaron) simply because so many Apple munchers have jumped on this news as a bad thing.

Didn't the multi tasking update for iOS4 cause massive battery consumption issues the apps running in multi-tasking weren't built for that kind of use?

MS has been talking up regular updates after this first one, if this type of schedule is anything to go by then a update around every 2 months would be pretty fast and welcome, hope it holds true.

GP007 said,
MS has been talking up regular updates after this first one, if this type of schedule is anything to go by then a update around every 2 months would be pretty fast and welcome, hope it holds true.

Yeah, I'd be happy with one each quarter or something even. But I'm thrilled that these updates are supposed to be regular. Microsoft is definitely taking this seriously.

GP007 said,
MS has been talking up regular updates after this first one, if this type of schedule is anything to go by then a update around every 2 months would be pretty fast and welcome, hope it holds true.

I am very eager to verify how this update will be distributed to customers.......

Iteresting fact: when Apple finally introduced copy and paste, after 2 years, people were acting like it was the biggest invention since sliced bread, or the second coming of Jesus to Earth. When MS does it, a few months after releasing WP7, people are like "meh, big deal, too late, etc.". The world is full of idiots...

TDT said,
Iteresting fact: when Apple finally introduced copy and paste, after 2 years, people were acting like it was the biggest invention since sliced bread, or the second coming of Jesus to Earth. When MS does it, a few months after releasing WP7, people are like "meh, big deal, too late, etc.". The world is full of idiots...

Man, I'm not even so sure it's been a few months, but yeah, I was one of those waiting for YEARS with my 1st gen iPhone 2G

zkid2010 said,

Man, I'm not even so sure it's been a few months, but yeah, I was one of those waiting for YEARS with my 1st gen iPhone 2G


Yeah, it has been less than a month since it was launched in the US.

TDT said,
Iteresting fact: when Apple finally introduced copy and paste, after 2 years, people were acting like it was the biggest invention since sliced bread, or the second coming of Jesus to Earth. When MS does it, a few months after releasing WP7, people are like "meh, big deal, too late, etc.". The world is full of idiots...

Exactly. I'm not one that's quick to cry "troll", but there seems to be a lot of them on here... lol

rfirth said,

Yeah, it has been less than a month since it was launched in the US.

Is it released? I checked today and there is nothing for my HD7.... I would wait until it will be available before stopping the watch....

Fritzly said,

Is it released? I checked today and there is nothing for my HD7.... I would wait until it will be available before stopping the watch....

They're talking about WP7 being released, not the update. The update is only out for developer devices atm.

They haven't relased any numbers yet, even in its 1.0 release, WP7 is very polished unlike the Turd that was the intitial Android release.
I've had every version of iphone up to the present 4th gen model, Apple has had quite a few years to work on iOS4, we seem to have forgotten that iphone gen 1 had many features missing, no App store and it looks like they originally had no plans for one, no copy and paste or multitasking and lets not forget it was only 2G, remember what it was like to stream youtube or data?..horrible.

Android has had 3 years and is only now catching up to the iPhone in fit and finish,if windows phone 7 is this good only two months after it's release, how will it be six months from now?

Joe05 said,
They haven't relased any numbers yet, even in its 1.0 release, WP7 is very polished unlike the Turd that was the intitial Android release.
I've had every version of iphone up to the present 4th gen model, Apple has had quite a few years to work on iOS4, we seem to have forgotten that iphone gen 1 had many features missing, no App store and it looks like they originally had no plans for one, no copy and paste or multitasking and lets not forget it was only 2G, remember what it was like to stream youtube or data?..horrible.

Android has had 3 years and is only now catching up to the iPhone in fit and finish,if windows phone 7 is this good only two months after it's release, how will it be six months from now?

Exactly. +1. And if they continue releasing updates regularly like this (As is planned)? It will be truly an amazing OS. It is a great OS now, but they still have some incredible plans for improvements from what I've heard.

Awesome; never really need the feature but proves that MS are gonna stick with their schedule (that did mention that they may be adding c/p early in 2011).

Now if only sim-free models were made available in the UK

georgevella said,
Awesome; never really need the feature but proves that MS are gonna stick with their schedule (that did mention that they may be adding c/p early in 2011).

Now if only sim-free models were made available in the UK

Yeah. I wonder what else is coming in this update. CDMA Support maybe? lol

georgevella said,
Awesome; never really need the feature but proves that MS are gonna stick with their schedule (that did mention that they may be adding c/p early in 2011).

Now if only sim-free models were made available in the UK

And in the US too... here we only have unlocked ones available and there are tons of problems..... not to mention that with an unlocked Focus you would still get updates through AT&T.

I have never seen a Win Phone 7 in the wild and I don't know anyone who wants one. Android and iPhone are the smart phones that people are wanting and I think Win Phone will be the cheap dumb phone replacement for people who don't know any better. Just saying, this is what I see.

I wonder how Win Phone 7 is selling?

derekaw said,
I have never seen a Win Phone 7 in the wild and I don't know anyone who wants one. Android and iPhone are the smart phones that people are wanting and I think Win Phone will be the cheap dumb phone replacement for people who don't know any better. Just saying, this is what I see.

I wonder how Win Phone 7 is selling?

Cheap dumb phone? I'm sorry, no one looking the price plans for these devices or seeing them in action would ever think that. They are noticeably pricey devices, and noticeably high quality. It's probably not selling like gold dust, but it's still going to get around (:

Edited by ~Johnny, Dec 5 2010, 7:11pm :

derekaw said,
I have never seen a Win Phone 7 in the wild and I don't know anyone who wants one. Android and iPhone are the smart phones that people are wanting and I think Win Phone will be the cheap dumb phone replacement for people who don't know any better. Just saying, this is what I see.

I wonder how Win Phone 7 is selling?

You have no clue how nice the software is and how well it runs on the Samsung Focus whcih should also run well on all of the others given they all use the same hardware...

You sound like a troll.

derekaw said,
I have never seen a Win Phone 7 in the wild and I don't know anyone who wants one. Android and iPhone are the smart phones that people are wanting and I think Win Phone will be the cheap dumb phone replacement for people who don't know any better. Just saying, this is what I see.

I wonder how Win Phone 7 is selling?

I have also never seen one person with a iPhone where I live, I guess that means no one wants those anymore either.

~Johnny said,

Cheap dumb phone? I'm sorry, no one looking the price plans for these devices or seeing them in action would ever think that. They are noticeably pricey devices, and noticeably high quality. It's probably not selling like gold dust, but it's still going to get around (:

Yeah, what a stupid comment. The OS is great and the hardware is great. And everyone I know that uses smart phones wants one. So, I guess it will take over the world then. See how little your friend's opinions can mean? lol

I'm pretty sure I read this quote days ago, before it showed up on PocketNow, so I don't think we can call this person a PocketNow tipster. Also, "notibly".

My concern is when we try to copy a link. They better put that in the context menu since you can't tap to just select

What's so stupid about this copy and paste furor is that critics are using its omission as a way to bash Microsoft for lacking attention to detail or not being thoughtful about the needs of user or just being "out of touch" with the consumer rather than as criticism of the OS.

The reality is that copy and paste is RARELY needed by most people. I've been using an Android device for nearly a year, and I've used the feature maybe twice.

There are lots of subtle touches that Microsoft has added to the OS that most of the dumba$ reviewers on tech blogs completely miss. A prime example can be seen on the home screen of the OS. Everybody knows about that navigation arrow on the right side of the live tiles, right? You can click that button to toggle between the tiles and the application list or just swipe the screen to the left or right. When you toggle, the button needs to switch from pointing to the right to pointing to the left. Instead of the graphic arrow just instantly re-rendering to change orientations, the arrow actually rotates! It's all eye candy, of course, but this is the type of detail that went into designing the UI. You can criticize the eye candy, but the fact remains that eye candy is what sells the phone.

bj55555 said,
The reality is that copy and paste is RARELY needed by most people. I've been using an Android device for nearly a year, and I've used the feature maybe twice..

Use it at least once a day on my phone... not just for little numbers or phrases.. whole paragraphs that would be ridiculous to type over.

Blasius said,

Use it at least once a day on my phone... not just for little numbers or phrases.. whole paragraphs that would be ridiculous to type over.

You're most certainly not most people. Care to share what use case requires you to copy and paste whole paragraphs from your phone on a daily basis?

Blasius said,

Use it at least once a day on my phone... not just for little numbers or phrases.. whole paragraphs that would be ridiculous to type over.


+1

I like to share links from my browser. Using the built in method I can email, SMS, post to facebook, twitter, and some other things that use the share menu to import it into an app.
I can NOT share it to someone on gtalk or other IM programs. But because I have copy and paste, I just tap and hold on the address bar, click copy all, go to the IM program and click paste. Done.

Blasius said,

Use it at least once a day on my phone... not just for little numbers or phrases.. whole paragraphs that would be ridiculous to type over.

This +1. I find it extremely useful. I could probably be able to get by without it, but re-writing things would get tedious.

bj55555 said,

You're most certainly not most people. Care to share what use case requires you to copy and paste whole paragraphs from your phone on a daily basis?

Exactly. I have used copy and paste maybe 10 times in the past 2 years on my phone. Will I appreciate it being there for those times when I need it? Absolutely. But honestly it isn't a huge feature. I'm thrilled to see it coming though, because it will shut up some of the naysayers (And I'll be pleased that it's there when I DO need it... lol).

mrp04 said,

+1

I like to share links from my browser. Using the built in method I can email, SMS, post to facebook, twitter, and some other things that use the share menu to import it into an app.
I can NOT share it to someone on gtalk or other IM programs. But because I have copy and paste, I just tap and hold on the address bar, click copy all, go to the IM program and click paste. Done.

What "app" are you constantly importing links from a phone web browser into? Stuff that you are reusing regularly on facebook, twitter, SMS and email. This sounds like a lot of theoretical I could do or your are that rare person who lives in his cell phone. I web browse as little as possible. Pinching and zooming all the time, pfft. Only when I can't get to a desktop or laptop. I'm not saying some people won't find an occassional need for it, or that MS shouldn't add it. They should. But really, it's minor. It was minor when it was an iPhone issue.

I think if anyone actually uses c/p on a phone regularly they are just wasting time because they can.

M_Lyons10 said,

Exactly. I have used copy and paste maybe 10 times in the past 2 years on my phone. Will I appreciate it being there for those times when I need it? Absolutely. But honestly it isn't a huge feature. I'm thrilled to see it coming though, because it will shut up some of the naysayers (And I'll be pleased that it's there when I DO need it... lol).

You hit the nail on the head about the naysayers. Adding this feature will go further to shut the detractors up than it will make WP7 users happy. Will I use the feature? Sure, if I ever need it. But it's not that big a deal to me if it's not there.

MorganX said,

What "app" are you constantly importing links from a phone web browser into? Stuff that you are reusing regularly on facebook, twitter, SMS and email. This sounds like a lot of theoretical I could do or your are that rare person who lives in his cell phone. I web browse as little as possible. Pinching and zooming all the time, pfft. Only when I can't get to a desktop or laptop. I'm not saying some people won't find an occassional need for it, or that MS shouldn't add it. They should. But really, it's minor. It was minor when it was an iPhone issue.

I think if anyone actually uses c/p on a phone regularly they are just wasting time because they can.

Don't be silly. Ever email a link to someone before? Copy/paste is a good feature and it is good to see that MS is bringing it to the platform.

bj55555 said,

You're most certainly not most people. Care to share what use case requires you to copy and paste whole paragraphs from your phone on a daily basis?

And what was the scientific method you used to reach this conclusion? Using an empiric one I can tell you that at least 70% of the people I know use C/P............. In spite of this I do not state "Everybody need it.".......

Fritzly said,

And what was the scientific method you used to reach this conclusion? Using an empiric one I can tell you that at least 70% of the people I know use C/P............. In spite of this I do not state "Everybody need it.".......

On top of that, it is a ridiculous to argue that people "don't need copy-paste". It is absolutely correct in the sense that, no they do not need it like they need food and water. And I suppose someone could needlessly retype something out. But anyone with a brain can come up with a number of use-case scenarios that are applicable and useful for a Smartphone. MS is bringing the feature, because they are listening to what users want. Whats the argument exactly? That MS shouldn't bother bringing this feature to WP7 because bj55555 thinks it is a useless feature?

bj55555 said,
Everybody knows about that navigation arrow on the right side of the live tiles, right? You can click that button to toggle between the tiles and the application list or just swipe the screen to the left or right. When you toggle, the button needs to switch from pointing to the right to pointing to the left. Instead of the graphic arrow just instantly re-rendering to change orientations, the arrow actually rotates! It's all eye candy, of course, but this is the type of detail that went into designing the UI.

Wow...I hadn't noticed that, there are quite a few little "minor" nuances to the interface which really make it a pleasure to use though.

And just to join in with the arguments about this copy and paste business...I believe Microsoft originally indicated Copy/Paste would NOT be included, it was after the bashing from consumer groups etc, that they caved and said that it would be realeased as an update Q1 2011. I think they made this announcement late september just before the European release.

So less than 1 month after the phone is introduced, we get copy and paste within site. What the F are you complaining about? Rushed to the marketplace? I waited three dang years for this phone, and besides the lack of direct syncing to Outlook debacle, (http://social.answers.microsof...9ab-4a24-becf-969db0ad2702/) this phone is about as good as any 1.0 gets. So I had to wait a month for copy and paste. Big ()**&-ing deal. Uh Oh, now I might have to wait another month for mulit-tasking and a BJ attachment.

Time to give MS some kudos' for the great job done so far. Outlook aside. But they really did screw that one up.

JF

jimmyfal said,
So less than 1 month after the phone is introduced, we get copy and paste within site. What the F are you complaining about? Rushed to the marketplace?
Yes, it was rushed. They had to get it out before christmas, no matter what. You can probably expect to see more functionality introduced in the coming months, functionality that has actually been under development for a long time but couldn't be finished in time for the release. It's not like they did this from scratch in a month.


When you have deadlines to meet, less important features have to be given a low priority.

I'm not sure what there is to give "kudos" for. Microsoft isn't some small startup that pulled off some amazing feat here.

hdood said,

I'm not sure what there is to give "kudos" for. Microsoft isn't some small startup that pulled off some amazing feat here.

Well, you can certainly give them Kudos for the amount of polish on their features in their short 18 months dev cycle. What's there is generally really well done, and with a super fluid UI. What's not there... well it's simply not there. There's not much half assedness about it - it's good or it's out Pretty decent rule to follow (:

jimmyfal said,
So less than 1 month after the phone is introduced, we get copy and paste within site. What the F are you complaining about? Rushed to the marketplace? I waited three dang years for this phone, and besides the lack of direct syncing to Outlook debacle, (http://social.answers.microsof...9ab-4a24-becf-969db0ad2702/) this phone is about as good as any 1.0 gets. So I had to wait a month for copy and paste. Big ()**&-ing deal. Uh Oh, now I might have to wait another month for mulit-tasking and a BJ attachment.

Time to give MS some kudos' for the great job done so far. Outlook aside. But they really did screw that one up.

JF

I don't know if we'll ever get direct Outlook to WP7 sync without having to first go up to hotmail/live but who knows. I think the best way to do document/contacts/email etc sync from your PC to the phone without the cloud in the middle would be to update the new Live Mesh to support WP7 as well. Mesh already syncs IE and Outlook (or is it Office settings in general?) from PC to PC that you setup, so adding the phone to that mix would be the best way to do it.

jimmyfal said,
So less than 1 month after the phone is introduced, we get copy and paste within site. What the F are you complaining about? Rushed to the marketplace? I waited three dang years for this phone, and besides the lack of direct syncing to Outlook debacle, (http://social.answers.microsof...9ab-4a24-becf-969db0ad2702/) this phone is about as good as any 1.0 gets. So I had to wait a month for copy and paste. Big ()**&-ing deal. Uh Oh, now I might have to wait another month for mulit-tasking and a BJ attachment.

Time to give MS some kudos' for the great job done so far. Outlook aside. But they really did screw that one up.

JF

Exactly. It's just trolls trying to still make themselves feel relevant. LOL Who else releases updates this quickly to include features that customers actually want (Not security features that only serve them...)? No one. And I think this is only the beginning of the updates coming to WP7. Microsoft is really pushing to get this OS as good as they can get it. And honestly for a 1.0 it IS a phenomenal release.

~Johnny said,

Well, you can certainly give them Kudos for the amount of polish on their features in their short 18 months dev cycle. What's there is generally really well done, and with a super fluid UI. What's not there... well it's simply not there. There's not much half assedness about it - it's good or it's out Pretty decent rule to follow (:

Exactly. And how about pushing out an update sooner than a year after release? Who else does that? lol

andrewbares said,
Took them long enough to put it in.
It's a brand new platform that hasn't even been out for a full month in the US, and barely a month and a half in the US.

While I realize you might be a dream coder (or not a coder at all), Microsoft is doing this right and making it work across other apps like it does on the iOS and not quite how it works on Android.

As TechDudeGeorge pointed out earlier, it took Apple two years to add it (and they did a phenomenal job), and Google has yet to implement a truly universal implementation (reminds me more of Windows Mobile's). So, if by "took them long enough to put it in," you mean that they got a good implementation in under a year, then yeah.

There's a difference between slapping something in there and doing something right. As other people have noted, Microsoft had copy and paste in Windows Mobile, but most of them seem to forget that it had quite different roots. Scrapping an existing platform is a pretty big deal in the software development world and you generally do not bring old, ugly code with you (otherwise you're not really starting over). Their old system had to deal with non-touch screens and other complications that would effectively be dead code in the new system. This is far from optimal. Not to mention their old system was not as well done as their text selection is done now.

In short, it would be stupid to keep the old. Doing it right is ridiculously better in the long term.

xn--bya said,
That was fast

flexkeyboard said,
that's what she said?

andrewbares said,
Took them long enough to put it in.

Wow, you guys are totally missing the jokes here

xn--bya said,
That was fast

flexkeyboard said,
that's what she said?

andrewbares said,
Took them long enough to put it in.

Owen W said,
I hear its a pretty big one..

Nice Discussion