Windows Phone 7 gaming sales "disappointing"

If reports on PocketGamer.biz are to believed, gaming related sales on Microsoft’s Windows Phone 7 handsets have been very disappointing. The site has spoken to various developers who have been working on the platform with most stating that “The number of sales is a bit disappointing so far”.

The developers, who did not wish to be named, went on to say that the conversion rates from trial/demo versions of Xbox LIVE titles on Windows Phone 7 to fully paid versions of the same games have been very low, with one saying "We are seeing a conversion rate of 10 percent, and the sales are still far from the numbers we are seeing on iOS,"

The article went on to say that even though developers that have integrated Xbox LIVE support into their titles have seen slightly better sales than those without, they are still far from impressive. Microsoft has been keen to push Xbox LIVE integration with Windows Phone 7 handsets, though this does mean that indie developers get less of a look in than they would on Android or iOS devices.

A number of Windows Phone 7 users have said that they have been disappointed with the higher cost of titles on the Microsoft service when compared to those on iOS or Android handsets, even similar titles can sometimes be up to four times the cost of those seen on the iTunes App Store.

The other reasoning behind poor gaming sales could also be the unknown consumer sales of Windows Phone 7 devices; this could, in theory, mean that weak sales of hardware have hampered marketplace sales.

Hopefully things will pick up gaming-wise in the coming months as Windows Phone 7 can be a great gaming device if it is managed correctly, but if Xbox LIVE promotion continues to hold back indie gaming development, then those developers may start to look elsewhere.

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You will get good sales when you have lots of consumers to buy them. You will get lots of consumers when the platform offers more functionality to make it more attractive and run on better hardware. More functionality comes when MS gets off their butts and opens up the platform, quickly and not at the glacial pace they are running at now. If WP7 had real time multiplayer, real cross-platform gaming with the 360 (not just some weak exchange of data like with Fable coin golf), enhanced functionality through better API's for developers, you would see better games, better applications, better hardware and that will attract users who will buy more games. Seems pretty clear to me, MS has to move faster. If they dont, bye bye WP7.

efjay said,
You will get good sales when you have lots of consumers to buy them. You will get lots of consumers when the platform offers more functionality to make it more attractive and run on better hardware. More functionality comes when MS gets off their butts and opens up the platform, quickly and not at the glacial pace they are running at now. If WP7 had real time multiplayer, real cross-platform gaming with the 360 (not just some weak exchange of data like with Fable coin golf), enhanced functionality through better API's for developers, you would see better games, better applications, better hardware and that will attract users who will buy more games. Seems pretty clear to me, MS has to move faster. If they dont, bye bye WP7.
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To be honest its too late for me (a Focus owner). The OS just isnt mature enough & neither is the hardware. But the real reason im buying iPhone4 (again) is get this: there is no armband for a Focus. I listen to music at the gym and hate fumbling around my pockets to get my phone. Hence I stopped listening to music > stopped using my phone. Its the one feature that MS has that Apple doesnt (Zune kills iTunes IMO).

MikeInBA said,
To be honest its too late for me (a Focus owner). The OS just isnt mature enough & neither is the hardware. But the real reason im buying iPhone4 (again) is get this: there is no armband for a Focus. I listen to music at the gym and hate fumbling around my pockets to get my phone. Hence I stopped listening to music > stopped using my phone. Its the one feature that MS has that Apple doesnt (Zune kills iTunes IMO).

I bet that there are armbands the Focus would fit in. Just not one marketed as "for the Focus"…

MikeInBA said,
To be honest its too late for me (a Focus owner). The OS just isnt mature enough & neither is the hardware. But the real reason im buying iPhone4 (again) is get this: there is no armband for a Focus. I listen to music at the gym and hate fumbling around my pockets to get my phone. Hence I stopped listening to music > stopped using my phone. Its the one feature that MS has that Apple doesnt (Zune kills iTunes IMO).

You've got to be joking. That's ridiculous. You're an early adopter.

WTF else do they want? They didn't advertise it as a gaming platform and still, those who like games still have to like the OS looks first.

thartist said,
WTF else do they want? They didn't advertise it as a gaming platform and still, those who like games still have to like the OS looks first.
They advertise it as one of the main windows phone 7 features

I don't have time to play games on my WP7 device. I download the trials to have a quick play with them and that's about it! I use the phone for like, actual phone stuff?

MS blew their initial efforts between confusing ads (why do I want a smartphone I don't want to look at), horrid update strategy and this continued dishonesty about overall platform sales figures. Glad I sold my Focus, might revisit Windows phone in a couple years, but this attempt is already blown.

Well to be honest, I have been using my samsung omnia 7 for 2 months now, after losing my iphone 4. First I was little bit happy, probably because it's new, then I had to buy an ipod, to be able to actually listen to music (7gb memory is a killer). And now I am thinking of actually switching back to iphone 4 after realising that I am not using my phone at all, other than the occasional phone calls. I miss my apps on iphone.

Ji@nBing said,
I think it's the UI. It's just soooooooo ugly!! Why would someone buy an ugly WP7 with less apps available at higher prices, when they can buy a nice looking iPhone or Android with a massive app library?

Are you kidding me? The UI was hailed as the most user-friendly, visually aesthetic, and sophisticated of any phone by numerous pundits and critics. Just because it doesn't have boring home screens with stupid water droplets doesn't mean that the UI on WP7 is inferior. If anything, it's superior, based on my observations, to all of the other phone UIs out there.

Ji@nBing said,
I think it's the UI. It's just soooooooo ugly!! Why would someone buy an ugly WP7 with less apps available at higher prices, when they can buy a nice looking iPhone or Android with a massive app library?

i really like the UI.. and if im honest.. its one of the reasons i wouldn't get a iPhone.. but if we were on about applications then yeh iOS.. however with every week that goes on there is that one application that comes out that makes me think..."this has potential.. its just going to take time"

but now android and iOS have been out for a few years its .. making WP7 look bad because its new.. and still being improved.. copy and past was welcome.. and with the bug fixs.. i'd recommend it

Ji@nBing said,
I think it's the UI. It's just soooooooo ugly!! Why would someone buy an ugly WP7 with less apps available at higher prices, when they can buy a nice looking iPhone or Android with a massive app library?

Agreed. Everyone I talk to says WM7 looks fugly. Combine that with a tiny and costly app store, and you have a lot of dissatisfied users. The word spreads, and users who might have considered buying a Microsoft phone, have changed their minds.

It's looking very bleak for Microsoft and Windows Mobile 7. I wonder if they'll dump it like the KIN and start over? Or perhaps they'll take the Zune route and continue selling an obscure product that will never gain traction.

The real question now is, will Microsoft make the same mistake with it's upcoming Windows 8 tablets. I mean, it supposedly has a metro interface like the Zune and WM7, and it's coming to market late in comparison to the competition; not only that, but existing Windows applications wont run without a recompilation/redesign for the ARM architecture. So with such a similar situation arising in Microsoft's tablet offering, will it go the way of Zune and WM7, that is to say, will it fail?

Flawed said,

Agreed. Everyone I talk to says WM7 looks fugly. Combine that with a tiny and costly app store, and you have a lot of dissatisfied users. The word spreads, and users who might have considered buying a Microsoft phone, have changed their minds.

It's looking very bleak for Microsoft and Windows Mobile 7. I wonder if they'll dump it like the KIN and start over? Or perhaps they'll take the Zune route and continue selling an obscure product that will never gain traction.

The real question now is, will Microsoft make the same mistake with it's upcoming Windows 8 tablets. I mean, it supposedly has a metro interface like the Zune and WM7, and it's coming to market late in comparison to the competition; not only that, but existing Windows applications wont run without a recompilation/redesign for the ARM architecture. So with such a similar situation arising in Microsoft's tablet offering, will it go the way of Zune and WM7, that is to say, will it fail?


No. I think you accidentally your opinions. Not going to abandon, nor is WP7 a mistake. Stop making posts like this, posting some jargon and hoping people won't see through it.

PlogCF said,

Are you kidding me? The UI was hailed as the most user-friendly, visually aesthetic, and sophisticated of any phone by numerous pundits and critics. Just because it doesn't have boring home screens with stupid water droplets doesn't mean that the UI on WP7 is inferior. If anything, it's superior, based on my observations, to all of the other phone UIs out there.
Pundits and critics can say all they want, but the fact is that WP7 isn't exactly selling like hotcakes and I attribute that at least partially to the UI. Critics and enthusiasts like yourself might be able to appreciate what MS is trying to do with that UI, but to the average user it just looks ugly and boring compared to iOS and Android.

Case in point, my mom was recently in the market for a new phone. I suggested she check out WP7 in addition to iPhone and Android. She said it was the ugliest and looked "old and out of date" compared to the other two. She ended up going with iPhone 4.

Everyone else I've asked about it that's seen it agrees that it's really ugly. Anecdotal, I know. But the slow sales and app uptake support this.

Ji@nBing said,
Pundits and critics can say all they want, but the fact is that WP7 isn't exactly selling like hotcakes and I attribute that at least partially to the UI. Critics and enthusiasts like yourself might be able to appreciate what MS is trying to do with that UI, but to the average user it just looks ugly and boring compared to iOS and Android.

Case in point, my mom was recently in the market for a new phone. I suggested she check out WP7 in addition to iPhone and Android. She said it was the ugliest and looked "old and out of date" compared to the other two. She ended up going with iPhone 4.

Everyone else I've asked about it that's seen it agrees that it's really ugly. Anecdotal, I know. But the slow sales and app uptake support this.

So you think the UI has more to do with sales than lack of carrier availability? I would take that bet...

I'm pretty sure Chicks and Vixens would beg to disagree I wouldn't be surprised if the developer is sitting on a load of cash because other developers sat on their ass.

as 'thenetavenger' above. Verizon doesn't even have the Windows 7 Phone yet. These numbers are kinda pointless until all the big carriers actually are selling the phones. Myself and my coworkers, are waiting for the Verizon release of WP7!!! And I can already tell you, I probably will be buying some games.

Brian Jackson said,
as 'thenetavenger' above. Verizon doesn't even have the Windows 7 Phone yet. These numbers are kinda pointless until all the big carriers actually are selling the phones. Myself and my coworkers, are waiting for the Verizon release of WP7!!! And I can already tell you, I probably will be buying some games.

Yea, because no single carrier has ever launched a phone OS to the top of the sales charts with just a single handset available? Well, there was this one...

I think the pricing is the key. I have dozens of XBOX Live titles on my phone in trial mode and I don't intent to purchase any of them. Somehow, Microsoft thinks that adding achievements and points justifies all this excessive pricing but it won't wash with me. A mobile game is something I dip in and out of, I have no real attachment or investment in it. This is where Google has got it right with the Android.

In the next few weeks Angry Birds is going to be released on WP7 as part of a spring wave of new game titles. It's been sucked into the XBOX Live family, developed by Microsoft Game Studios and Rovio (the original developers) aren't even mentioned! AB is free on Android and only £0.59 on iPhone. I have a sneaky suspicion that we'll see this released for no less than £2.49.

jasqid said,
Sorry M$, but $5 a pop for a game is 2x too rich for me. It's a phone game.

You obviously have no idea as to the time & effort involved in develop games; hell you don't even sound like a gamer. Gaming costs money, good games cost money. If you want to play games for free, go play games on android. Have fun with choppy frames per second and adverts popping up over the game every 5 seconds.

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