Rumor: Windows Phone 7 Mango to be released on September 1

There has been a lot of excitement around Microsoft’s upcoming update to the Windows Phone platform. It was only a few weeks ago that Mango was officially released to manufacturing and now it is being pegged that September 1 will be the consumer release date.

According to Pocket Lint, they are citing multiple sources claiming that September 1 will be the day that Mango gets released. Although, this date does come before the "Fall" (starts September 23) announcement Microsoft made but does align to IFA.. IFA is Europe's largest consumer electronics show in Berlin, and if announced on this date, would allow companies such as Samsung, ZTE, LG , ACER and more to show off new devices with Mango installed.

Further, it is rumored that Nokia will also show off its first Windows Phone device at the Nokia World Conference. With the release/announcement of new hardware, it will help Microsoft build its portfolio of devices in the months leading up to holiday shopping season.

If you have been waiting for Mango, it looks like you may only have a few more weeks to hold off. Ironically, Apple is also supposed to be announcing the iPhone 5 around this same timeframe. It seems unlikely that this would be a coincidence that Apple updates their popular phone around the same time many new Windows Phone devices are announced.

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While MS may release it Sept 1st will we still all wait months for the carriers to approve it as they did with Nodo?

What ****ed me off about microsoft updates is that NoDo was delayed by 5 months for me even though I have !no carrier! (at least not one from MS' list). Did Megafon (my carrier) test my update? No. Then why did I have to wait?

RealFduch said,
What ****ed me off about microsoft updates is that NoDo was delayed by 5 months for me even though I have !no carrier! (at least not one from MS' list). Did Megafon (my carrier) test my update? No. Then why did I have to wait?

If you have a branded phone, no matter who it is, even if it wasn't on that list, they will test it

I'm starting to think that these rumours are started to try devalue what MS is doing so people start giving bad press etc when the rumoured dates are not met with releases etc

Too good to be true, and I don't think it's going to be released before the launching of the new devices to push sales =/

You know, this kind of rumor is just stupid. First off, we have this game going with semantics: "released" vs "launched". Then, of course, we have wildly different interpretations of what it MEANS to release OR launch something. As far as I'm concerned, we should be strict on the definitions. If Mango will truly be "released" 1 Sep (again, this is just a rumor), then that should mean that we are able to get it---otherwise it simply cannot be considered RELEASED. Similarly, when you "launch" something it means it has left its dock, its pad, whatever. When you launch a ship it doesn't continue to sit at the dock for everyone to "oooh" and "ahhh" over it. When you launch a rocket, it doesn't just sit there on the pad. It GOES. But, too many times, Microsoft and nearly every other company announces the "launch" of something only to reveal later that it was nothing more than an announcement.

Carriers are crap and won't start readying update for pushing to users till around 18th October I think, so I think mid-end october updates will START to arrive on existing handsets

It is in the carriers hands, so with all the dates about to be posted on delivery and such... I'll believe it when I see it and will not get my hopes up.

zeke009 said,
It is in the carriers hands, so with all the dates about to be posted on delivery and such... I'll believe it when I see it and will not get my hopes up.

True. If anything at all gets launched/released on Sep 1 current users wont figure in any of it. It will take long, slow months before the carriers finish their testing.

However my phone just bloody works so as long at it doesnt go past Christmas I think it wont be a problem for me. Will be nice to see if the platform does get a lift from the new handsets and hopefully some good advertising.

Carriers: "Oh, sorry, MS, we forgot to take 4 months test the update. Could you delay the release while we do that?"

Zeet said,
I hope carriers won't take forever to release Mango like they did with NoDo.

Yeah, i hope consumers get more control. Would like to see updates available to mango quick and then phone specific builds be able to be merged/updated on top of that so peole don't have to wait for carrier specific updates. (much like how devs got early releases that didn't require carrier updates / testing)

MS and Nokia are holding an event on Aug 17. They're expecting that to be the new announcement date... not Nokia-world.

shamburg said,
MS and Nokia are holding an event on Aug 17. They're expecting that to be the new announcement date... not Nokia-world.
Nokia has offically commented that their won't be device anouncements on that 17 Aug. It's a gamer's conference, and it would be related to game developers. Perhaps about, what game developers can do with Mango.

It was reported on Engadget but not Neowin. http://www.engadget.com/2011/0...vent-august-17th-both-comp/

Edited by FMH, Aug 12 2011, 12:38am :

shamburg said,
MS and Nokia are holding an event on Aug 17. They're expecting that to be the new announcement date... not Nokia-world.
Nokia has offically commented that their won't be device anouncements on that 17 Aug. It's a gamer's conference, and it would be related to game developers. Perhaps about, what game developers can do with Mango.

It was reported on Engadget but not Neowin. http://www.engadget.com/2011/0...vent-august-17th-both-comp/

shamburg said,
MS and Nokia are holding an event on Aug 17. They're expecting that to be the new announcement date... not Nokia-world.
Nokia has offically commented that their won't be device anouncements on that 17 Aug. It's a gamer's conference, and it would be related to game developers. Perhaps about, what game developers can do with Mango.

It was reported on Engadget but not Neowin. http://www.engadget.com/2011/0...vent-august-17th-both-comp/

shamburg said,
MS and Nokia are holding an event on Aug 17. They're expecting that to be the new announcement date... not Nokia-world.
Nokia has offically commented that their won't be device anouncements on that 17 Aug. It's a gamer's conference, and it would be related to game developers. Perhaps about, what game developers can do with Mango.

It was reported on Engadget but not Neowin. http://www.engadget.com/2011/0...vent-august-17th-both-comp/

shamburg said,
MS and Nokia are holding an event on Aug 17. They're expecting that to be the new announcement date... not Nokia-world.
Nokia has offically commented that their won't be device anouncements on that 17 Aug. It's a gamer's conference, and it would be related to game developers. Perhaps about, what game developers can do with Mango.

It was reported on Engadget but not Neowin. http://www.engadget.com/2011/0...vent-august-17th-both-comp/

This is good news. Microsoft needs a good hurrah from the userbase, and I think this will probably elicit that.

Autumn begins on 1 September. Just ask the Met Office. If you claim the equinox to be the start of autumn, you also have to claim MIDsummer's Day to be the start of summer...

Timble said,
Autumn begins on 1 September. Just ask the Met Office. If you claim the equinox to be the start of autumn, you also have to claim MIDsummer's Day to be the start of summer...

In North America we consider the solstices and equinoxes as the beginning of the seasons, this has to do with what is called meteorological lag

Wikipedia
The Western definition based on solstice to equinox is more frequently used where a temperature lag of up to half a season is common.[5] In North America, summer is often the period from the summer solstice (usually June 20 or 21 in the Northern Hemisphere) to the autumn equinox.

GP007 said,
September is what I always bet on for Mango.
Since the original WP7 was launched in September, Micrsoft did say that Mango would come within an year of the launch. But first of the month is earlier than what I hoped for. Hope it's true.

neowin you didn't read it properly...they say launch on sep 1 not released.

also where do they say about nokia? you just made that up!

simonjames said,
neowin you didn't read it properly...they say launch on sep 1 not released.

also where do they say about nokia? you just made that up!

Try grammar. You just might like it! Check this out:

"Neowin, you didn't read it properly. They say it will launch on Sep 1, not that it will be released. Also, where do they say anything about nokia? You just made that up!"

Skwerl said,

Try grammar. You just might like it! Check this out:

"Neowin, you didn't read it properly. They say it will launch on Sep 1, not that it will be released. Also, where do they say anything about nokia? You just made that up!"

I'm still not certain about the distinction. Mango has already been released to OEMs and carriers. If there is a launch or release on September 1st, it would point at public availability

Also, to rehash bdsams point, the first line of the pocketLint article is

RTFA
Microsoft will roll out it's latest phone operating system, currently codenamed Mango, to Windows Phone 7 users starting on 1 September...

And the Nokia part

Additionally, Nokia is expected to launch it's Windows Phone 7 offering at Nokia World at the end of October, giving Microsoft a double whammy in the run up to Christmas.

/This post aimed at simonjames, I'm just using Skwerl's translation

kaworu1986 said,

Dude, summer doesn't go until sept 21st only in the states: Italy and the rest of Europe are the same.


USA, Italy and "the rest of Europe" still doesn't make the whole world.

х.iso said,

USA, Italy and "the rest of Europe" still doesn't make the whole world.

Doesn't need to be. Microsoft is headquartered in the US, so when they say fall, it would be a local reference

Sraf said,

Doesn't need to be. Microsoft is headquartered in the US, so when they say fall, it would be a local reference


+1 Let's pick our battles people... LOL

х.iso said,

USA, Italy and "the rest of Europe" still doesn't make the whole world.

It's about the positional relationship between the Earth and Sun based on the Earth's tilted axis. It is supposed to be around the time when days are right between the longest and shortest days of the year (when the Sun shines directly over the equator and not one of the tropic lines). So if it isn't the whole world, it SHOULD be the whole world.

Just to throw this in on the almost irrelevant argument. I guess Microsoft are meteorologists to use June, July, August as the "summer". Anywhere in the world I believe it is a "valid" even if not preferred definition.