Windows Phone 7 to get custom ringtones... maybe

With the launch of Windows Phone 7, there have been some notable features missing, including copy & paste, as well as the ability to multi-task, but one of the lesser known, is that with the RTM release of Windows Phone 7, it's impossible to set your own custom ringtone, and you're forced to use the built in ones.

Microsoft has remained tight lipped, but an eagle eyed user on xda-developers called Naplesbill spotted a page on Microsoft's support website that shows off how to get a ringtone, according to Windows Roundup. The page, (which we bet will be gone in no time) details a process that actually doesn't work yet, which means an update must be in the works soon.

According to Windows Roundup, another user on XDA developers found "undocumented capabilities" that line up with this, and says that the capabilities "could enable apps to interact with the ringtone library" but notes that even if you attempt to use these right now, the phone will not run the application. Users are posting that they think this will allow applications to add sounds to the ringtone library.

Many users have been complaining about the lack of ability to change the ringtone to their own sound, so this news is great. Hopefully we'll be hearing from Microsoft in the coming weeks about the update being pushed to Windows Phone devices. Here's hoping copy & paste is included too.

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х.iso said,

you know, lot of people abuse the custom ringtone/sms/alert option with horrible sounds and tunes, forcing people around listening to it from time to time. at least I heard lot of pleasant tones on WP7. but as sound designer I would like to add my own.

Yeah I can agree with that, but surely it would be up to the user to decide if they wanted a screaming ringtone etc hehe

This is cool to see. I think this first update is going to be pretty considerable. It doesn't sound like Microsoft ever stopped working on WP7, they just RTM'd what they had and continued plugging away on features for the updates.

Seems odd that WP7 doesn't have copy/paste when WinCE (the base OS for WP7) has had it for ages (mid 90s I believe). Hell, even Windows Mobile phones have had it for ages.

zivan56 said,
Seems odd that WP7 doesn't have copy/paste when WinCE (the base OS for WP7) has had it for ages (mid 90s I believe). Hell, even Windows Mobile phones have had it for ages.

WP7 manipulates data in context so you don't have to copy/paste anything.

zivan56 said,
Seems odd that WP7 doesn't have copy/paste when WinCE (the base OS for WP7) has had it for ages (mid 90s I believe). Hell, even Windows Mobile phones have had it for ages.

The apps are sandboxed and it's quite difficult to implant copy and paste.

day2die said,

The apps are sandboxed and it's quite difficult to implant copy and paste.

But they have access to various API's within the device, and the OS itself has access to a lot of bits within the apps... Copy and paste can be done, and is already planned for the first update.

As for the OP, the thinking was that it wasn't necessary given the way the OS works. They didn't think you would need to copy and paste data. They are already planning this for the first update and then everyone can see how little they really needed it... lol And just because it's based on WinCE, doesn't mean it just IS WinCE...

Managed apps have had native copy/paste for a while. The only major change is the default security policy which prohibits the running of external code.
It sounds more like they didn't want to create the GUI for copy paste, so they just left it out in order to be able to reach RTM early enough for the holidy season.

M_Lyons10 said,

They are already planning this for the first update and then everyone can see how little they really needed it...

It probably won't be needed very much, but will come in very handy when it is needed...

х.iso said,

WP7 manipulates data in context so you don't have to copy/paste anything.

So how can you copy text or data from a doc to another?.........

I had assumed this was a limitation brought on by the cell carriers. My last couple feature phones didn't allow custom ringtones, but it wasn't a limitation of the phone; it was a customization that AT&T made to the firmware to get people to buy ringtones from them.

Flawed said,
Who wants to be a guinea pig for microsoft's latest beta software? lol

Beta would imply that what has been released doesn't work as expected or has known bugs. Supposedly missing features are not bugs. If they released the phone claiming that you could set a custom ringtone from day 1, you'd have a point. So far from what I've seen since I got my handset, what's there works very well.

Flawed said,
Who wants to be a guinea pig for microsoft's latest beta software? lol

Ahh, obvious troll is obvious, I suppose it will be different though if Apple released their next update and guinea pigged you though eh?

CtrlShift said,
Beta would imply that what has been released doesn't work as expected or has known bugs. Supposedly missing features are not bugs.

A software product coming out of beta doesn't mean it's bug free. In fact there's no such thing as bug free software where everything works 100% as expected or intended. Software shedding its [beta] label simply implies it doesn't have any show stopping bugs, and the product is "good enough" to be sold to the general public.

i wished all phones from now on would just offer vibrate functions, i'm so tired of all the ridiculous, annoying, loud ringtones you hear all around you these days

XerXis said,
i wished all phones from now on would just offer vibrate functions, i'm so tired of all the ridiculous, annoying, loud ringtones you hear all around you these days

Well its not as ridiculous as the iPhone. If you have one in a crowded place, play your text tone, and I guarantee about 6 people check their pockets.

Every single phone Ive owned before they began to support mp3's would allow me to set any song on my phone as my ringtone.

Why can they not simply do this?

I've just counted on my HD7, there are 93 ringtones available and an additional 10 alert tones available for messages, voicemail and e-mail. It would be nice to set your own and I'm sure it's coming, I'm actually quite happy with the 'Quietly Brilliant' tone. On my previous Nokia, I eventually went back to a stock Nokia one, it was far less annoying.

Seriously, this is one of the oldest cell phone features, and this state-of-the-art (I use this term as loose as Pam Anderson) doesn't have it. I would be ashamed to say I'm a fan of this phone. Just one more reason why this phone will fail big time. Can you say Kin 2.0!

Why is it that normal phones can have custom text tones and ringtones easily by just picking the sound file. But smart phones lock it down and are a hastle to set?

The phone will not fail based on a feature like custom ringtones missing. Nor will it fail based on features it doesn't have from day one. Chill people, that stuff is coming, and for those of us who accept the platform regardless of some of those minor issues, keep in mind that everyone had to compromise at some point along the line. It's not a big deal, so don't blow it out of proportion. If you don't like the fact it's missing something, noone is holding a gun to your head to make you buy it .

IMO, if Microsoft don't get their ****ing arse in gear and put the most simple basic of features they are going to crash and burn, hard!

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