Windows Phone 8 IE10 gets benchmarked, bests Android


A few days ago we saw that the IE10 build in Windows 8 had shown some improvements with early benchmark scores. That trend continues today with Windows Phone 8 IE10 browser benchmarks, discovered in the logs of html5test.com

The score, shown in the image above (via wmpoweruser) indicates that the new browser currently bests Android. However, it's worth noting that the Android browser is currently available to consumers while the Windows Phone 8 browser is still in development. It would be a more accurate reflection to compare the mobile iteration of IE10 to Android 5.0's browser; unfortunately, we do not have access to those scores.

While we still do not have an official release date for Windows Phone 8 (Apollo), we are hedging our bets and expect to see it in late June at the Windows Phone developer summit in San Francisco. If you need a reminder about what we can expect in Windows Phone 8, you can check out this post here

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I hope they release WP8 for the Lumia 800/900 phones. Just got my free developer phone yesterday and it will suck if I have to throw it in a drawer in a couple of months.

That being said, I'm glad they're doing something about it. Windows Phone is great, Mobile IE - quite another story. It is absolutely horrendous browsing experience (and rendering engine). They have to come up with not only a decent browser, but a great one or WP8 will sucks just as bad as 7/7.5...

simplezz said,
Yeah I use Chrome on ICS, not the built in one. Poor test.

Why is it a poor test just because you use a different browser to the default. They are testing defaults here. You shouldn't have to use a different browser to the default just to get a better score

Stocker360 said,

Why is it a poor test just because you use a different browser to the default. They are testing defaults here.

It's testing beta software against stable software. Everyone knows the Chrome beta webbrowser for Android is the fastest. By the time WP8 is released, chrome will be the default Android browser.

A fair test would be WP7.5's default browser vs Android 4.0's, or IE10 vs Chrome. Infact Chrome can be downloaded and used right now, but IE10 isn't even available to WP 7.5 users.

Stocker360 said,

You shouldn't have to use a different browser to the default just to get a better score

WP8 isn't even released yet. How is IE10 the default browser? The default browser would be stable vs stable, and that would be WP7.5 (IE9) vs Android 4.04.

And if we're talking about scores, look at the results in the comments section in the article where IE10 comes last but one.

Maybe worth noting in this article that Chrome (Android 4) is on 364 with 10 bonus points. Especially since it is released.

At least, seems that Microsoft will have a much better browser than now with the next version of WP.

Beaten by Opera, Firefox, IOS Safari, Tizen, Chrome, Blackberry, but at least, much better than almost all current browsers.

"It would be a more accurate reflection to compare the mobile iteration of IE10 to Android 5.0's browser; unfortunately, we do not have access to those scores."

Took the words right out of my mouth. Though competition in this sector is normally good for the end user.

Rudy said,
Uh.....What about Safari for iOS?

324 on iOS 5.1.1 (iPod)
Close enough , considering IE is not webkit based so they had to bring these features from scratch... Lets see how far iOS6 would take it.

bogas04 said,

324 on iOS 5.1.1 (iPod)
Close enough , considering IE is not webkit based so they had to bring these features from scratch... Lets see how far iOS6 would take it.

Compared to IE9 in WP7.5 it's a huge jump and we're still months away since WP8 goes final. It could very well finish with a score up in the 340s I think.

GP007 said,
Compared to IE9 in WP7.5 it's a huge jump and we're still months away since WP8 goes final. It could very well finish with a score up in the 340s I think.
If they add support for the new types of HTML5 input types relating to dates, then they may actually far exceed that.

Luke. said,
Why not compare to chrome for android which scores 364 (with 10 bonus)?

Nothing wrong with comparing the two default browsers that come with the OS. When/if chrome replaces it as the main browser on ICS then you can use that as a base.

Luke. said,
Why not compare to chrome for android which scores 364 (with 10 bonus)?

Yeah, I'd think this would be a better comparison, especially since Chrome will most likely replace the existing browser in Android 5.

GP007 said,

Nothing wrong with comparing the two default browsers that come with the OS. When/if chrome replaces it as the main browser on ICS then you can use that as a base.

No you're right that the default browsers should be compared, but since neither Android 5 (which will likely come with Chrome) and WP8 haven't been released, it's a valid comparison.

JonathanMarston said,

Yeah, I'd think this would be a better comparison, especially since Chrome will most likely replace the existing browser in Android 5.

Chrome for Android is a proprietary Google app like Gmail, it will never replace the default android browser.

Luke. said,
Why not compare to chrome for android which scores 364 (with 10 bonus)?

It's because the only significant browser that WP8 IE10 can beat (currently) is Android 4.0. That's how sites like wmpoweruser "spin" things - it's made for Windows fanboys so they have to compare MS products to those which they know they can beat in some way, just to keep their followers happy. It's quite sad that Neowin is going deeper down this path every day.

dagamer34 said,

Chrome for Android is a proprietary Google app like Gmail, it will never replace the default android browser.


Really funny since it is open source...

SuperHans said,

It's because the only significant browser that WP8 IE10 can beat (currently) is Android 4.0. That's how sites like wmpoweruser "spin" things - it's made for Windows fanboys so they have to compare MS products to those which they know they can beat in some way, just to keep their followers happy. It's quite sad that Neowin is going deeper down this path every day.

Are you serious? It's thinking like this that is the problem behind all the "fanboy" this and that BS that's hit neowin. What's wrong with comparing it to the leading mobile platforms default browser exactly? Once Chrome becomes the default in Android then we'll compare it to that, but it's not yet. Most people even on a Android phone will just use the default browser it has, thus this comparison is a fair one since the same default usage happens on WP with IE.

Neowin - Where unprofessional journalism looks better

"Windows Phone 8 IE10 gets benchmarked, bests Android"

I'm inclined to agree with the motto of the site.

snuffy said,
Neowin - Where unprofessional journalism looks better

"Windows Phone 8 IE10 gets benchmarked, bests Android"

I'm inclined to agree with the motto of the site.

If you take the scores as is then the title using for this article holds true. I don't see the problem.

snuffy said,
Neowin - Where unprofessional journalism looks better

"Windows Phone 8 IE10 gets benchmarked, bests Android"

I'm inclined to agree with the motto of the site.

Nothing wrong here, move on troll

calimike said,
I hope wp8 is umm... more like android or iphone

Feeling nostalgic for 2009, eh? Welcome to 2012. Come on in- the water's fine!

WAR-DOG said,
Well I have the option of other browser on my Android, where as on WP8 you are doomed to IE or am I wrong?

If the websites work right and performance is solid then I don't think you're doomed at all.

WAR-DOG said,
Well I have the option of other browser on my Android, where as on WP8 you are doomed to IE or am I wrong?

I use IE on my PC and Safari on my iPhone. Neither bother me at all. As long as I can get to the webpages I want, they come up quickly and render correctly, I am happy. As far as I am concerned, every modern browser meets those requirements. Competition is a great thing, the fact that I don't care too much means that everyone is doing a pretty good job. Unlike years ago when IE6 was just about the only show in town and it sucked!

While these tests are an interesting way to see how HTML5 is coming along, they really mean nothing to the end user. A higher score does not mean a better end user experience.

sphbecker said,
While these tests are an interesting way to see how HTML5 is coming along, they really mean nothing to the end user. A higher score does not mean a better end user experience.
Or speed.

sphbecker said,
While these tests are an interesting way to see how HTML5 is coming along, they really mean nothing to the end user. A higher score does not mean a better end user experience.

While I agree in general why is it that everytime we have a topic about IE or the next IE version these types of tests are always brought up from the anti-IE camp as proof that IE just sucks? If they're not that important as you say then what's with the double standard here?

sphbecker said,
While these tests are an interesting way to see how HTML5 is coming along, they really mean nothing to the end user. A higher score does not mean a better end user experience.

No but it means a better exp for developpers. It also means the users can install any browser and be sure almost all standard compliant web sites will work.

Maybe some people here are too young but the web used to be "it's not working unless you use this browser". ie the infamous this web site is optimized for Ie6 and Netscape if you're using anything else go ***** yourself.

GP007 said,

While I agree in general why is it that everytime we have a topic about IE or the next IE version these types of tests are always brought up from the anti-IE camp as proof that IE just sucks? If they're not that important as you say then what's with the double standard here?

Because it is exactly the same that happened with the iPhone and WP7: when the first iPhone was announced almost everybody here complained, correctly IMO, about the lack of "cut7copy7paste"; when it was discovered that WP7was going to be launched without those functionalities too................. the same people kept saying over and over that it was not a big deal.......................

Fanboys are fanboys no matter what is the brand printed on the hat..........................

sphbecker said,
While these tests are an interesting way to see how HTML5 is coming along, they really mean nothing to the end user. A higher score does not mean a better end user experience.
This is untrue.

Most of these tests apply to things that do not matter to the end user, but there are many that do even if they don't know about it. For end users, I would say that one of the best areas of improvement from HTML5 support, which these tests show off, is with regards to web forms. HTML5 introduces a lot of new input types so that websites can provide standard support for the various inputs that currently exist in way too many inconsistent ways across multiple websites. Once they are all supported, HTML5 will allow links, emails, dates, times, numbers to be picked consistently across websites and it also eases the burden on those websites with regards to client side validation (helping the user figure out that they did something invalid); it won't help server side validation though.

http://html5test.com/compare/b...roid40/ios50.html#head-form

Notice that iOS is actually winning in this area. For real websites, this is very exciting stuff. I am particularly interested in the least-implemented portion of the forms, date/time support, as it is the least consistent thing across websites.

pickypg said,
This is untrue.

Most of these tests apply to things that do not matter to the end user, but there are many that do even if they don't know about it. For end users, I would say that one of the best areas of improvement from HTML5 support, which these tests show off, is with regards to web forms. HTML5 introduces a lot of new input types so that websites can provide standard support for the various inputs that currently exist in way too many inconsistent ways across multiple websites. Once they are all supported, HTML5 will allow links, emails, dates, times, numbers to be picked consistently across websites and it also eases the burden on those websites with regards to client side validation (helping the user figure out that they did something invalid); it won't help server side validation though.

http://html5test.com/compare/b...roid40/ios50.html#head-form

Notice that iOS is actually winning in this area. For real websites, this is very exciting stuff. I am particularly interested in the least-implemented portion of the forms, date/time support, as it is the least consistent thing across websites.

I didn't say that HTML5 was not important, it clearly is. What I meant is that how well a browser conforms to a standard is not important to the end user. As an industry having better standards means lower development costs and better products, aka, important. However, if you are coding for HTML5 (or any web standard) it is your job to make a product that works correctly on all major browsers, which may mean avoiding using certain features if they are not consistently implemented across the industry.

It isn't as if some big company is going to say “our web page is coded for HTML5, if you have problems it isn't our fault, find a browser that got a higher score.”

GP007 said,

While I agree in general why is it that everytime we have a topic about IE or the next IE version these types of tests are always brought up from the anti-IE camp as proof that IE just sucks? If they're not that important as you say then what's with the double standard here?

No double standard for me. I say the same thing whenever people act like these scores are the end all browser test, I don't care what the browser is. I am an IE9 user myself so I am not trying to marginalize this article, I just think it is kind of silly to always been talking about these tests.

What I would find more interesting is an article saying that the average score of all modern browsers is X and then discusses what that means to developers and next generation webpages. That would mean a lot more to end users than these silly score battles.

sphbecker said,

No double standard for me. I say the same thing whenever people act like these scores are the end all browser test, I don't care what the browser is. I am an IE9 user myself so I am not trying to marginalize this article, I just think it is kind of silly to always talk about these tests.

What I would find more interesting is an article saying that the average score of all modern browsers is X and then discusses what that means to developers and next generation webpages. That would mean a lot more to end users than these silly score battles.

the better twin said,
Excited to see what wp8 will bring. End of June seems ages away.

Yeah, June 20th can't come fast enough.

the better twin said,
Excited to see what wp8 will bring. End of June seems ages away.
Don't worry we should get Tango in that time to ease the pain of waiting

the better twin said,
Excited to see what wp8 will bring. End of June seems ages away.

Yep. I'm terribly interested to see how this rumored Windows 8 kernel integration is going to mean for devs. Could it even mean my Metro DirectX application will be able to run on Windows Phone 8? Counting down the days...