Windows Phone roadmap leak shows Tango/Apollo details

A new Windows Phone roadmap leak posted onto the internet today has given us speculative details of what could be possible release dates and specifications for future versions of the Microsoft mobile operating system.

According to website WMPoweruser who obtained the details, the Windows Phone roadmap is believed to be up to date as of October 2011 and shows a Q2, 2012 release date for the next version of operating system codenamed Tango, with the fourth release “Apollo” set for a Q4, 2012 launch.

The roadmap seems to show that Tango may be little more than an update to enable the Windows Phone 7 operating system to run on “low-end handsets” for what Microsoft call “products with the best prices”. This is one of many areas that Microsoft has struggled in due to cheap lower-spec Android handsets flooding the market.

Meanwhile Apollo is a different story altogether if this roadmap is to be believed. The article shows that Microsoft fully expect to be increasing overall volume of sales, something that they have said would happen through 2012 for sometime, while saying that the operating system will finally become competitive.

More importantly for some is the new that Apollo should enable release launch of some high-end devices with HD screens and dual-core processors while including better support for businesses.

However the roadmap may disappoint some prospective Windows Phone buyers, especially as it would seem that higher resolution devices could be almost a year away from release if this roadmap runs true.

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dotf said,
I would like to see stylus support brought back for Apollo.

Why, I suppose you want resistive touchscreens brought back as well?

I'm happy with my wp7 phone. If only I could send photos using bluetooth like every other bluetooth enabled phone made in the last 10 years.

GaMMa said,
LTE Verizon phones please!

For the exception of the iPhone (since Apple always seems to be the exception), Verizon has said they don't want any new smartphones that are not 4G LTE. So the only way a WP7.5 or WP8 device will show up on Verizon is if it has LTE.

The rule has exceptions and loopholes like as long as a manufacturer (with the same OS) has a 4G Phone, they can bring in a 3G only phone as well. But the manufacturer can not bring in a 3G phone without a 4G on Verizon.

Something very confusing like that. But that's the reason why Verizon is only selling one WP.

Sorry, I wish I had a source for that.

Please remove this article... this roadmap is very old (from August)... the dates/details have drastically changed since then. You post this article late after it was confirmed these details are in fact out-dated and now false.

j2006 said,
Please remove this article... this roadmap is very old (from August)... the dates/details have drastically changed since then. You post this article late after it was confirmed these details are in fact out-dated and now false.

Where and by whom has any WP7 roadmap been confirmed?

j2006 said,
Please remove this article... this roadmap is very old (from August)... the dates/details have drastically changed since then. You post this article late after it was confirmed these details are in fact out-dated and now false.

Where has this been posted? Those who said it was old have since even posted the news themselves! Also if it's from August, why does it show Mango as released.

Byron_Hinson said,

Where has this been posted? Those who said it was old have since even posted the news themselves! Also if it's from August, why does it show Mango as released.


IIRC, Mango went RTM in august. The carriers proposed it later but it was the same revision.

Why is it that resolution is such a big deal? the ipad2 has lower dpi that even the HTC titan and it is just fine for everybody. 800x480 is excellent for 99.9% of handsets. I'd much rather see improved battery life and single thread performance increases (given 99.9% apps don't use two cores), something dual cores won't do.

While I can see them increasing "volume" of sales, that doesn't automatically mean increased market share. In fact, it is entirely possible to increase volume and lose market share if everyone else increases their volume as well (but at a higher rate).

APOLLO: Increase overall volume.

LOL. How is MS magically going to do that? Reduce the price of all phones to zero?

Make the price negative and I'll get one!

MS Lose32 said,
APOLLO: Increase overall volume.

LOL. How is MS magically going to do that? Reduce the price of all phones to zero?

Make the price negative and I'll get one!

the iphone sells millions and it isn't free. your point? WP cost the same as a high end android iphone. that's today. why would it need to be free? people shop on features when price is the same and apollo is about features.

UndergroundWire said,

The iPhone 3G is FREE!


You mean 3GS, and technically it isn't free. You've still got a 2 year contract with it.

UndergroundWire said,
Technically no phone is free then.


I fail to understand the point you were making with that statement. Is anyone foolish enough to think that any phone is free?

MS Lose32 said,
APOLLO: Increase overall volume.

LOL. How is MS magically going to do that? Reduce the price of all phones to zero?

Make the price negative and I'll get one!

Marketing push

Minimoose said,
Oh really??

I Wasn't serious. I'm putting it in terms how XMac believes it.

Intrinsica said,


I fail to understand the point you were making with that statement. Is anyone foolish enough to think that any phone is free?

That's because you didn't read who I was quoting. I'm putting it in his context. That's not how I feel. You and Minimoose need to re-read what lead to my statement.

I said the iPhone 3GS is free. XMac said it comes with a two-year contract so it isn't technically free. Well here is a big DUHHH. Then by his context, NO PHONE IS FREE!!!

You see what XMac is saying the phone is not free. But in this forum, some people have a reading comprehension problem. YES the phone is FREE. No the Service isn't. Phone != Service

Next time, PLEASE follow the conversation through. Things make sense when it is in context.

ShMaunder said,

LOL, I hope you are trolling. Technically, nothing is free

Trolling? Technically the phone is free. Nobody is stupid enough to associate a phone and service as one thing. They are two separate things. A phone is useless without service.

Otherwise have your mommy or daddy buy you an iPod Touch or a Samsung Galaxy Player. That way you can have most of the cool things of the iPhone or Android without the silly little thing called service.

UndergroundWire said,
That's because you didn't read who I was quoting. I'm putting it in his context. That's not how I feel. You and Minimoose need to re-read what lead to my statement.

I said the iPhone 3GS is free. XMac said it comes with a two-year contract so it isn't technically free. Well here is a big DUHHH. Then by his context, NO PHONE IS FREE!!!

You see what XMac is saying the phone is not free. But in this forum, some people have a reading comprehension problem. YES the phone is FREE. No the Service isn't. Phone != Service

Next time, PLEASE follow the conversation through. Things make sense when it is in context.


I followed the conversation through, but thanks for clarifying that for me. For a moment there I thought you were missing half of your brain. I'm not entirely sure if my opinion has changed, but at least I have the clarification.

Intrinsica said,

I followed the conversation through, but thanks for clarifying that for me. For a moment there I thought you were missing half of your brain. I'm not entirely sure if my opinion has changed, but at least I have the clarification.

Yeah I think everyone can agree that free doesn't always mean free. There's always an asterisk on top of that

Intrinsica said,


I fail to understand the point you were making with that statement. Is anyone foolish enough to think that any phone is free?
Yes, some actually do.

tuneslover said,
At least my phone is free technically because my dad paid..

I understood the joke, but I still moved my hand to my face when I read that.

UndergroundWire said,

I Wasn't serious. I'm putting it in terms how XMac believes it.

That's because you didn't read who I was quoting. I'm putting it in his context. That's not how I feel. You and Minimoose need to re-read what lead to my statement.

I said the iPhone 3GS is free. XMac said it comes with a two-year contract so it isn't technically free. Well here is a big DUHHH. Then by his context, NO PHONE IS FREE!!!

You see what XMac is saying the phone is not free. But in this forum, some people have a reading comprehension problem. YES the phone is FREE. No the Service isn't. Phone != Service

Next time, PLEASE follow the conversation through. Things make sense when it is in context.


Actually, if we're not talking about the 2 year contract, there are quite a few free Windows Phones. just search it up on ATT or something

Intrinsica said,


I fail to understand the point you were making with that statement. Is anyone foolish enough to think that any phone is free?

Sadly, yes. Working for AT&T, I get to see it all the time. There actually are people out there who don't understand that the two-year contract allows us to recover the cost of the subsidy we gave them at the time their contract was signed.

Matthew_Thepc said,

Actually, if we're not talking about the 2 year contract, there are quite a few free Windows Phones. just search it up on ATT or something

Let's not be anal about it. The phones are free the service isn't. And what does that say about Windows Phone?

This is an old news and confirmed as "outdated" (which means that it's wrong today) by MS.

Just remove the news already Neowin

Its the holidays and less than a day isn't "outdated" also: if you have nothing constructive to say don't say it (it's also covered in our house rules).

Neobond said,
Its the holidays and less than a day isn't "outdated" also: if you have nothing constructive to say don't say it (it's also covered in our house rules).

I think you didn't get my comment.
The whole content of the article is false. This is an old roadmap aged from many month ago. MS reported that it's not up to date, the current roadmap is a lot different than this one.

Superphones, really?
Increase overall volumen? I suppose they're refering to the audio volume :-D
Products with the best prices, if they can't sell an unlocked phone for less than 100$ I don't think they're going to win the battle in this area.

I hope this is very old news because I can't see why they're taking so long to support things like multi core CPUs =/

daniel_rh said,
Superphones, really?
Increase overall volumen? I suppose they're refering to the audio volume :-D
Products with the best prices, if they can't sell an unlocked phone for less than 100$ I don't think they're going to win the battle in this area.

I hope this is very old news because I can't see why they're taking so long to support things like multi core CPUs =/

Because most things don't take advantage of multi-core CPUs as far as software goes? The OS, at the kernel level fully supports multi-core CPUs, but it doesn't mean jack if the apps on top, and games more so, don't take advantage of it.

When it comes to platforms you have to get the dev tools and user level stuff ready before you flip the switch on some new feature/API.

daniel_rh said,
Superphones, really?
Increase overall volumen? I suppose they're refering to the audio volume :-D
Products with the best prices, if they can't sell an unlocked phone for less than 100$ I don't think they're going to win the battle in this area.

I hope this is very old news because I can't see why they're taking so long to support things like multi core CPUs =/

bec u dont need multiple cores in a phone. There is NOTHING a multiple core CPU can do that a high clocked single core can't. Dualcore jut sucks more battery power. Why?

Who needs dualcor on low level phone apps. The games are just reskinned games we played on Game Gear and Game Boy. Remember what types of processors those had? Didn't those games work fine? What about other apps? What kind of app other than photo/video manipulation or a highend game do u need dualcore for?

Just admit it, you simply want dulcore because it exists. Look how fluid WP7 is w/o fancier processors. Look how fluid iOS is with fancier processors before it got one. Eeven Android phones are pretty fluid wo/ dualcore.

Anthonyd said,

I think you didn't get my comment.
The whole content of the article is false. This is an old roadmap aged from many month ago. MS reported that it's not up to date, the current roadmap is a lot different than this one.

D you have a link for the actual one?
TIA

FMH said,
Apollo, you're late!

android was late to the iphone. this is an endless marathon. there is no "finish" line to start late from.

neonspark said,

android was late to the iphone. this is an endless marathon. there is no "finish" line to start late from.

The iPhone took the high-end market, Android grabbed the low, medium, and some of the high end market. WP7 doesn't have market left except the MS fanboy market.

neonspark said,

android was late to the iphone. this is an endless marathon. there is no "finish" line to start late from.


Assuming it brings the support for LTE/WiMax though, it is late.

Well, it means that Windows Phone ecosystem is stuck on 800x480 resolution for quite some time, while the rest of the competition will be quite ahead of them.

That's my biggest problem. I can't imagine what iPhone 5 will have, or where Android super-phones will be.

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Therefore, I think this report may not be correct. I expect Apollo to come much earlier than that. In late H1, perhaps?

MS Lose32 said,
WP7 doesn't have market left except the MS fanboy market.

This, this is exactly what we are seeing for one reason or another.

MS Lose32 said,
The iPhone took the high-end market, Android grabbed the low, medium, and some of the high end market. WP7 doesn't have market left except the MS fanboy market.
And most of Apple market is all fanboish too.

MS Lose32 said,
The iPhone took the high-end market, Android grabbed the low, medium, and some of the high end market. WP7 doesn't have market left except the MS fanboy market.

iPhone took the high-end market from Blackberry, Nokia-Symbian, Palm & Windows Mobile. So it's not impossible to lose.

TechieXP said,
And most of Apple market is all fanboish too.

In the past maybe but the lower price of the 3GS is smashing Blackberry to be the new teen phone.

tuneslover said,

iPhone took the high-end market from Blackberry, Nokia-Symbian, Palm & Windows Mobile. So it's not impossible to lose.

That's because in most people's minds, the iPhone was leaps and bounds better than BB, Symbian, Palm, and WM. One would be hard-pressed to say that WP7 is leaps and bounds better than the current iPhone.

MS Lose32 said,
The iPhone took the high-end market, Android grabbed the low, medium, and some of the high end market. WP7 doesn't have market left except the MS fanboy market.

iPhone 5 is late too , there is no late for a good phone. the biggest mistake of WP7 was releasing a little bit early last year and which made a lot of bad impressions on their market. They fixed it somehow with a lot of money from their endless pocket. as far as price targeting goes The roadmap clearly explains they have Tango for lower price and Apollo for higher end. besides, right now if you compare all android devices to iPhone you will notice that all android phones (prior to ice cream sandwich) they are all kind of early as well. There is lot of lags, it is not as smooth as good as iPhone. fonts are lot polished so well such as windows phone and iPhone. transition effects are so primitive even with another layer on top of it such as touchwiz or htc sense...