Xbox One can play CDs and is DLNA compatible

Sony released an extensive FAQ on the upcoming PlayStation 4 earlier this week and it showed that the next generation game console won't be able to play any CDs. The PS4 also won't support streaming content from a DLNA enabled device. These are features that are supported with Sony's current PS3 console.

Now the Penny Arcade Report has confirmed, via a Microsoft statement, that the company's Xbox One console will in fact play audio CDs and will be DLNA compatible. The story adds that the DLNA support for the console is still in the process of being certified. You may remember that Microsoft had previously confirmed that the Xbox One would not serve as a native Windows Media Center Extender, but the news that it will support DLNA does mean that the console will be able to stream content from other DLNA devices.

The PS4 FAQ also said that the console won't support the playback of MP3 files. Microsoft apparently won't allow Xbox One owners to import MP3 files directly to the console, but it will support streaming of music files from Play To devices like a Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 PC.

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Well as of now I use my PS3 more for Steaming my Blu-Ray rips than I do games and if the PS4 does not allow me to use app's like PS3 Media Server with it then it is one console I will skip this round I will have no use for it. As far as CD's I have not even owned one for years so that does not bother me but media streaming does.

DLNA is okay-ish, but really slow for media browsing and seeking within files. Found that pretty consistent with a variety of servers and clients, and it's not surprising when considering the convoluted layers built atop HTTP that it's composed of.

This thing is supposed to be running a Windows 8.1 variant for powering the dashboard, right? Why can't we have SMB share support too? That protocol is proven billions of times per day to work well, work fast, and work reliably. Mix in Homegroup support and anybody could set it up. NTFS for USB media too, please. Play that Microsoft card to maximum advantage!

CDDA support? Uh, cool... I guess.

Well no, he just says he will pass the request along and they will consider adding support but for the moment it apparently does not support either, which really is kind of an odd thing to leave out.

Enron said,
If you're talking to me, I was actually pretty serious. I'm going to play CDs on my Xbox.

Not me, I'm going to listen to lossy, compressed digital formats that are locked to my account on a retailer service and then talk about discs like they're obsolete.

Lord Method Man said,

Not me, I'm going to listen to lossy, compressed digital formats that are locked to my account on a retailer service and then talk about discs like they're obsolete.

CDs are lossy too FYI, especially these days with the loudness war and ridiculous compression they are putting on them. Digital files are capable of being far higher quality than CD though sadly most are still held back by being mastered for the ancient redbook format. Still anyone who says they can tell the difference between a modern high quality AAC track and a CD is deluded.

As for being locked most stores like Amazon and even iTunes haven't had any DRM on their audio tracks for years now; come out of your cave once in a while maybe.

Anyway my post was a joke about how silly it is to be touting the ability to play CDs in 2013.

TRC said,

Anyway my post was a joke about how silly it is to be touting the ability to play CDs in 2013.

You're absolutely right. This isn't some ground-breaking feature. On the other hand, there really isn't an excuse NOT to be able to play CDs, either. CD support comes in handy at Christmas time, especially if the XB1 will be the only disc player attached to your entertainment system in the family room (that's me).

TRC said,

CDs are lossy too FYI, especially these days with the loudness war and ridiculous compression they are putting on them.

Dynamic compression isn't related to lossy audio compression to reduce storage space. Dynamic compression is more of a taste thing or to help in noisy conditions like the car.

Yeah I meant dynamic compression, I left a word out I guess. It just ruins the sound in my opinion, they master them so loudly the audio gets clipped and brickwalled. The new Black Sabbath album suffered from this (though I've read the LP version actually sounds much better).

CDs can sound great when mastered properly but fumbling around with plastic discs that just hold a few songs these days seems a bit archaic to me. Formats like AAC are much more convenient.

Edited by Bonfire, Nov 2 2013, 9:42pm :

This pretty much sums up how i feel at the moment glen8. Whether it`s just all the internet bickering that`s putting me off i don`t now but nothing seems to have made me feel inclined to purchase one!
I`ll probably wait a while until things settle down and the games actually look/play better than the previous gen, at least to justify the outlay...

Was there ever any word on why Sony made the decision to remove or not include the ability at launch? Seems like a pretty daft thing to do considering the PS3 supported it.

Jose_49 said,
So in conclusion, the PS3 is much better all-in-one gaming and media solution than the PS4.

Also, the xbox360 allows options for visualizing LAN libraries on the big screen where the ONE doesn't.

deadonthefloor said,

Also, the xbox360 allows options for visualizing LAN libraries on the big screen where the ONE doesn't.

It's not like Sony or MS can't add in these kinds of features later.

I'm really upset that PlayTo / DLNA is the only support.

My PC is upstairs and gaming systems downstairs.
Don't want to run upstairs to play to XBox One.

As someone who has reliably configured xbox Media center extender, that is preferable.

Also, being able to stream locally by browsing content over UNC share via the dash is also preferable than play to.

XBox One will NOT replace my Xbox360 for Media streaming. Just not gonna happen.

deadonthefloor said,
....

Since my cable box doesn't support the HDMI requirements for pass thru, I think the 360 will fit in nicely.
We'll see if turn based games suffer from the forewarned issues.

deadonthefloor said,
I'm really upset that PlayTo / DLNA is the only support.

My PC is upstairs and gaming systems downstairs.
Don't want to run upstairs to play to XBox One.

As someone who has reliably configured xbox Media center extender, that is preferable.

Also, being able to stream locally by browsing content over UNC share via the dash is also preferable than play to.

XBox One will NOT replace my Xbox360 for Media streaming. Just not gonna happen.

Wait...
Media Servers are still supported. You can browse and play your PC shared media. (Unless Microsoft specifically changed something that hasn't been announced.)

Even if you use Media Center on your PC, you can share the recorded content as well.

The only thing missing is the RDP specific Media Center interface, and I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see 3rd party App replacements fairly soon.

Also don't forget that you can use PlayTo/DLNA from tablets or your phone, so you can use these devices to send the content from your PC in the other room to your Xbox One.

deadonthefloor said,

Since my cable box doesn't support the HDMI requirements for pass thru, I think the 360 will fit in nicely.
We'll see if turn based games suffer from the forewarned issues.

You should be able to call them up and get an more recent cable box. My ancient one from 2004 didn't either and I got it swapped.

Spicoli said,
You should be able to call them up and get an more recent cable box.

As someone who works to deliver my TV, I can guarantee, we do not support it.

Mobius Enigma said,

Media Servers are still supported. You can browse and play your PC shared media. (Unless Microsoft specifically changed something that hasn't been announced.)
...

Also don't forget that you can use PlayTo/DLNA from tablets or your phone, so you can use these devices to send the content from your PC in the other room to your Xbox One.

Everything I've read insinuates Play To is the only way to deliver LAN content to the device.
Here's hoping you are correct, and I can browse local media shares.

Requiring a second screen when current generation can just browse natively is silly.

Most media servers can stream MKV to the PS3.

Also 90%+ of the MKV videos I come across are h.264 anyways.... What's the point of jamming it in a barely supported container...just cause people can?

Shadowzz said,
Most media servers can stream MKV to the PS3.

Also 90%+ of the MKV videos I come across are h.264 anyways.... What's the point of jamming it in a barely supported container...just cause people can?

Idiocy

Shadowzz said,
Most media servers can stream MKV to the PS3.

Also 90%+ of the MKV videos I come across are h.264 anyways.... What's the point of jamming it in a barely supported container...just cause people can?

To be fair to MKV, it does support chapters where M2TS doesn't (requires a separate file). However very few hardware players that support MKV support chapter functionality so its sort of a moot point at the moment.

Lord Method Man said,

To be fair to MKV, it does support chapters where M2TS doesn't (requires a separate file). However very few hardware players that support MKV support chapter functionality so its sort of a moot point at the moment.

mp4 has had this for donkeys years

A standard for streaming media to a media extender. You can browse and play video and audio stored on another device.

Just to clarify this...

"Xbox One owners to import MP3 files directly to the console"

There are several options that make this less necessary.

When you have MP3 files on your Windows 8/8.1 PC and use Xbox Music with the cloud settings, it will create an online cloud list of your music that can be accessed from any device, including the Xbox One. This is true of the XB360 as well, and all your legally purchase Music can be played on your Xbox from the Cloud.

With both PlayTo and DLNA, send the music/video/pictures to your Xbox One console directly. So if you have an SD Card with all your MP3s/movies/pictures, etc, slap it into your PC/Tablet, and send it to your Xbox One.

If you have your music/picture/movies on your phone, select PlayTo or DLNA and send it to your Xbox One.

The SmartGlass App also coordinates with the PlayTo functionality for remote control of the content.

Even IE11 content on Windows 8.1 is support on the Xbox One (..and XB360), so from any Website with Music or Video, select Devices - Play - Xbox One, and you get a Chromecast like experience, even with Flash (new to 8.1) and various other HTML5 video/audio formats.

Also if you have a local PC, use Media Sharing/Servers and stream the content from the PC if you want to manage everything from the Xbox One directly. So store all your content on your PC or Phone that can be used as a Media Server.

There are plenty of options available, even if Microsoft isn't initially allowing users to load MP3s on the internal HD directly.

The only 'question' still standing that I haven't been able to test/confirm is use of a USB device plugged into the Xbox One. The XB360 also natively supports iPod/iPhones directly, so it will be curious if Microsoft adds the iPhone USB drivers. (Especially since they didn't add the WP7 drivers, which was crazy.)

to be fair sony always said hey were focused on the games from the start and that's all ps4 fans "THINK" they care about. Would have been worse if xbox did not have these basic features as its been advertised as the ONE and only box you need hooked to your tv.

To me if ps4 doesn't blow the xbox one out of the water game wise its a fail. From all the gameplay footage I have seen of the 2 so far some parts look best on ps4 and some on xbox so its kind of a wash. I could care less about an extra randomized cloud.

Lord Method Man said,
DNLA is a no brainer. I'd like to see a list of supported formats though.

most likely all but that crappy MKV container the pirates like so much.

Lord Method Man said,
DNLA is a no brainer. I'd like to see a list of supported formats though.

Pretty sure MKV wont be in the list.

MS doesn't support MKV officially due to fear of patent issues.

Lord Method Man said,
MKV is just a container Im more interested in codec support

Go to Xbox.com and do a search for PlayTo. There is a list of supported formats on the 360 for now and I'm pretty sure that list will be the same for the Xbox One. They might add in a few newer h264 profiles but who knows. Anyways, PlayTo is using DLNA to stream media from your PC to the Xbox with the PC as the media server.

deadonthefloor said,

most likely all but that crappy MKV container the pirates like so much.

But... but multiple audio and subtitle streams! what we could do that for over a decade never mind!

Lord Method Man said,
MKV is just a container Im more interested in codec support

H264 support is there. Should support higher level profiles too.

The thing that needs to be supported is 10bit; I hope XBO does.

Lord Method Man said,
MKV is just a container Im more interested in codec support

But what a container! Subs, chapters, multiple audio tracks, and it's free and open to implement. Anyone who doesn't support it is just lazy or is worried a free alternative is too competitive with their own services. It is my preferred ripping format for my legacy library of DVDs as I can preserve subs, commentaries, etc and get it all on my NAS so every TV in the house has simple access to the same library.

The terrible part is most media extenders and consoles won't support it. The excellent part is raspberry pi and xbmc exist. Completely quiet and low power so it's always on, and so tiny it's hidden behind every TV. Only $35. Full 1080p. Plugins forallyour favorite services and web sites. Nothing can best it in any way.

Edited by Geezy, Nov 2 2013, 7:33pm :

Hows the 24 Hz playback on that thing? I originally was going to rip my BD collection to MKV for use with my WD TV Live but I had lip sync problems when played at 24 Hz. Remuxing them to M2TS made the problems go away.

Great! You can tell it to automatically switch to the best refresh rate for the video being played. As long as your TV supports it, it'll work! It syncs fine to 60hz as well though. Many audio and video sync options are supported. (Sync to audio, sync to video, sync to refresh rate)

Geezy said,

But what a container! Subs, chapters, multiple audio tracks, and it's free and open to implement.


Free and open to implement do not imply free of patent-issues. If someone can indemnify MKV today, very soon you will see native MKV support across all windows/xbox devices.

Geezy said,

But what a container! Subs, chapters, multiple audio tracks, and it's free and open to implement. Anyone who doesn't support it is just lazy or is worried a free alternative is too competitive with their own services. It is my preferred ripping format for my legacy library of DVDs as I can preserve subs, commentaries, etc and get it all on my NAS so every TV in the house has simple access to the same library.

The terrible part is most media extenders and consoles won't support it. The excellent part is raspberry pi and xbmc exist. Completely quiet and low power so it's always on, and so tiny it's hidden behind every TV. Only $35. Full 1080p. Plugins forallyour favorite services and web sites. Nothing can best it in any way.

other containers could do the above for donkeys years, mp4 best's it with tagging, menus and universal support

Anyone else fed up with this constant back and forth between Sony & Microsoft? I buy consoles to play GAMES, anything else is a bonus, if i wanted an expensive Hi-Fi i'd buy one.

kurupy said,
Anyone else fed up with this constant back and forth between Sony & Microsoft? I buy consoles to play GAMES, anything else is a bonus, if i wanted an expensive Hi-Fi i'd buy one.

I buy consoles to play games, watch tv, listen to music, video chat and stream my content. I don't want an apple tv, roku and 5 other devices under the TV when one device can do it all.

Much like phone utopia, i'm looking forward to "Console" utopia. I don't particularly want my tv to have smart phone functionality since most tv companies are notorious for abandoning their service or not uprgading your set.

Microsoft has a killer track record with features/support/functionality on consoles.. why go backwards?

be cause if it was up to kurupy, we would still be carrying a mobile phone, a DAP/PMP, a camera, a gps navigator, a Nintendo/psp and a tablet where ever we go.

I've got to say that's a very childish comment to make Crimson. To make out that just because my views don't coincide with yours/others, must mean that i'm all for halting the progress of technological advancement. If your going to troll, then go somewhere else and do it.

I respect that not all consumers think like i do, which is to say that i'm not about to throw my 360/PS3 out just because i've upgraded to the latest and greatest. Although i can certainly understand and respect the notion of consumers wanting an all-in-one device. It just doesn't feature in any criteria in my making a decision to buy a piece of tech.

Raa said,

So you want a PC then.

No, don't want a pc.. I've had one downstairs and can't wait to get rid of it and send the pc back to a closet to just use as a file server. With a PC i continually have HDMI audio sync issues, drivers break DTS / DTS-MA pass through all the time, video cards never like to sync up right without going through crazy driver configurations and tweak scripts, the PC never likes to resume from hybernane and play correctly - this goes for OSX on a mini, Ubunto/Redhat Linux running XBMC and Windows running XBMC or plex

360 has proven itself kid & wife friendly

spudtrooper said,
kid & wife friendly

Sorry you've had so much trouble with it mate.

My MCE has been rock solid - and meets the above criteria too.

It makes no sense why the PS4 cant play CDs, MP3s or stream media. Unless the PlayStation team ran out of time developing/building the PS4 software or something. I would hope they include these functionalities in the future in an update!

Lone Wanderer Chicken said,
It makes no sense why the PS4 cant play CDs, MP3s or stream media. Unless the PlayStation team ran out of time developing/building the PS4 software or something. I would hope they include these functionalities in the future in an update!

Well, they also didn't have time to get DVD / Bluray playback in there... I think they were just glad to have software that booted for the launch!

M_Lyons10 said,
Well, they also didn't have time to get DVD / Bluray playback in there... I think they were just glad to have software that booted for the launch!
It's very interesting to me that when Xbox One was announced and Microsoft came clean about digital limitations--specifically phoning home to make sure that you're not borrow-pirating stuff--everyone exploded so much that Microsoft reversed course.

Now, the PS4's FAQ is announced with a blip about audio CDs not working at all, and movie playback not working without phoning home (wow, now Sony/MPAA gets to check up on my movie watching?), yet no one is slamming Sony except people that certainly lean toward Microsoft? Who hasn't used a music CD in their console as a convenient attachment to their stereo system (even if that just boils down to your TV)?

This is exactly why I detest Sony as a company. They announce everything disingenuously, yet the reality is so far from the truth that it's hard to remember what it even was at the beginning. Then, then media never calls them out on it. Oh, sure, you can share your games by handing them to your friend--assuming they live at all close to you--but you had better not be sharing DVDs/Blu-rays, which was the entire reason that I bought a PS3. The PS4 was clearly a race to beat Microsoft out the gate, and they barely succeeded, but I expect a lot of weird software symptoms that result from it, those listed above included.

Maybe it's irony, but Sony was the parent-music label for Britney Spears' "Oops!... I Did It Again". Here's to them consistently twisting the truth in the future with more tales about how much consumer-friendly they are than their competitor(s)...

From what I've read, CD and Blu-Ray use different lasers (diodes); the player in the PS3 has both but Sony chose to cut cost with the PS4's.
However I don't think a lot of people will miss the ability of playing CDs; most people nowadays have more music in digital format than on vinyl or CD.
The lack of compatibility with DLNA -a standard established by Sony- however, is a bigger issue.

PS3 lacked DLNA too and was added with an update.

And I don't know anyone who listens to CD's anymore Or in your area there's still people with Discmans and such?

Shadowzz said,
PS3 lacked DLNA too and was added with an update.

And I don't know anyone who listens to CD's anymore Or in your area there's still people with Discmans and such?

It didn't lack support for USB Media, Media Servers, and was a very capable 'media' platform.

Sony's reasoning here is really strange, even if it is a delay. (DLNA was delayed for specification reasons, just like the XB360.)

They have the code to provide the features, and considering the similarity between the OS and dashboard with the PS3, even if it was a sloppy port, at least users wouldn't be locked away from their content.

It is just a really strange decision, even if it is just a launch time constraint. (Sony also needs to tell users if they are going to add it, and when to expect it.)

Shadowzz said,
And I don't know anyone who listens to CD's anymore Or in your area there's still people with Discmans and such?

Actually it's surprising that Sony, a Japanese company, would cut CD support. Did you know that in Japan physical CDs made up 80% of all music sales in 2012? For comparison, in the US digital formats now make up 70% of music sales.

Mobius Enigma said,

It didn't lack support for USB Media, Media Servers, and was a very capable 'media' platform.

Sony's reasoning here is really strange, even if it is a delay. (DLNA was delayed for specification reasons, just like the XB360.)

They have the code to provide the features, and considering the similarity between the OS and dashboard with the PS3, even if it was a sloppy port, at least users wouldn't be locked away from their content.

It is just a really strange decision, even if it is just a launch time constraint. (Sony also needs to tell users if they are going to add it, and when to expect it.)


I do agree it's weird, I wanted to get a PS4 soon, but for now will wait. Hope they'll straighten it out. Playstation has changed with Ken leaving, and not for the better I'm afraid.

a0me said,
From what I've read, CD and Blu-Ray use different lasers (diodes); the player in the PS3 has both but Sony chose to cut cost with the PS4's.
However I don't think a lot of people will miss the ability of playing CDs; most people nowadays have more music in digital format than on vinyl or CD.
The lack of compatibility with DLNA -a standard established by Sony- however, is a bigger issue.

ok, that sounds legit, except I believe DVDs and CDs use the same laser so.... Wtf!?

According to Wikipedia, "laser diodes in CD players operate at 780 nm." "While a DVD uses a 650 nm red laser, Blu-ray Disc uses a 405 nm "blue" laser diode."

a0me said,
From what I've read, CD and Blu-Ray use different lasers (diodes); the player in the PS3 has both but Sony chose to cut cost with the PS4's.

I've never seen an optical drive on the market that doesn't play CDs. I suspect it's a software limitation as a concession to publishers that don't like all those DRM free CDs on the market.

Spicoli said,

I've never seen an optical drive on the market that doesn't play CDs. I suspect it's a software limitation as a concession to publishers that don't like all those DRM free CDs on the market.


According to Wikipedia, "laser diodes in CD players operate at 780 nm." "While a DVD uses a 650 nm red laser, Blu-ray Disc uses a 405 nm "blue" laser diode."
So basically, a Blu-ray player needs to have 3 laser diodes built-in in order to play all 3 optical disc formats.

vcfan said,
hopefully when they open up the dev environment to everyone, we'll also get a VLC port.

Been waiting almost a year for the Win8 VLC port.. i've sort of given up hope. I didn't receive any of my kickstarter perks either.. At this point in time, screw VLC, i want Plex. At least they deliver.

spudtrooper said,

Been waiting almost a year for the Win8 VLC port.. i've sort of given up hope. I didn't receive any of my kickstarter perks either.. At this point in time, screw VLC, i want Plex. At least they deliver.

I don't even care about VLC, just for the people who like to run all their formats, it would be an option. personally, I rip my movies to MP4, so as long as ive got that, im content.

spudtrooper said,

Been waiting almost a year for the Win8 VLC port.. i've sort of given up hope. I didn't receive any of my kickstarter perks either.. At this point in time, screw VLC, i want Plex. At least they deliver.

Did you email them like they asked you to? I know last update they said some stuff came back non-deliverable. For what it's worth; I got mine.

Hope we see more details sooner than later, its now November and we know about as much as we did at e3 as we do within 2-3 weeks of launch. Nice to see X1 has these basics

Spicoli said,
What a strange thing not to include.

This is just their way of learning from OtherOS. Why include what you are just going to remove?

Sony is one company I won't support if I can help it.

Plays CD's eh? Welcome to the 80's, seems no one has CD's any more though.

DLNA - What will it be used for? to play media onto an attached TV or something? Sorry Microsoft, your days of using the xbox as a media centre are over!. There are far better and cheaper alternatives for that these days (ones that actually work too - unlike Xbox Media centre that more often than not DOESN'T work, or won't play certain media types).

dvb2000 said,
Plays CD's eh? Welcome to the 80's, seems no one has CD's any more though.

DLNA - What will it be used for? to play media onto an attached TV or something? Sorry Microsoft, your days of using the xbox as a media centre are over!. There are far better and cheaper alternatives for that these days (ones that actually work too - unlike Xbox Media centre that more often than not DOESN'T work, or won't play certain media types).

the point of this is that if you buy an xbox for gaming you don't need an alternative.. if you buy a ps4 for gaming you will need to buy one those on top if you need DNLA

dvb2000 said,
Plays CD's eh? Welcome to the 80's, seems no one has CD's any more though.

DLNA - What will it be used for? to play media onto an attached TV or something? Sorry Microsoft, your days of using the xbox as a media centre are over!. There are far better and cheaper alternatives for that these days (ones that actually work too - unlike Xbox Media centre that more often than not DOESN'T work, or won't play certain media types).

If you couldn't get it to work, guess what?... It's just you.
I've been doing Media Center for years, and have never had a problem with it.

This is what you are doing right now: S. T. R. E. T. C. H. I. N. G

Showan said,
This is what you are doing right now: S. T. R. E. T. C. H. I. N. G

try running it with 2 NICS in your windows machine, search the internet for media centre and 2 NICS.

Microsoft never got it right.

Install a service pack, permissions all changed on registry, never worked again.

yep, class act Microsoft!

Lachlan said,
the point of this is that if you buy an xbox for gaming you don't need an alternative..

the point is, I bought an XBOX 360 and tried to use it as a media extender and it was nothing but trouble, in the end I threw it in the bin.

bought a WDTV live and its worked perfectly from day 1, never a problem.

dvb2000 said,

Microsoft never got it right.

Install a service pack, permissions all changed on registry, never worked again.

yep, class act Microsoft!.


I might agree with you with many Microsoft products which they release half baked stuff. (e.g. win8) but not XBOX sorry, xbox one in particular is much better machine compare to ps4. ps4 played catch up with half baked UI and higher hardware specs on paper so it shows taking an edge. xbox does so many things and the software, hardware match much better. UI is much better too. haters gonna hate. this time around sony taking microsoft's place on releasing half baked console.

dvb2000 said,
try running it with 2 NICS in your windows machine, search the internet for media centre and 2 NICS.
Did you ever report this issue?

Even if you had, this is clearly not a common use case, and very unlikely to bubble to the top of any priority issue list.

dvb2000 said,

the point is, I bought an XBOX 360 and tried to use it as a media extender and it was nothing but trouble, in the end I threw it in the bin.

bought a WDTV live and its worked perfectly from day 1, never a problem.

You're going to extremes here, I have a 360 and I also have a WDTV live and both can work fine. The point of DLNA is that it allows you to run a media server from your PC and stream to the Xbox, I did it before I got my WDTV and it also worked fine. The reason I got the WDTV isn't because the Xbox wasn't able to do it, it was because the WDTV could do it without needing me to run a media server on my PC, just setup network sharing. Well, that's all in the past now since my WDTV DOESN'T like to work with Windows 8.x AT ALL. It can't find network shares and I don't see WD updating it to do so anytime soon. I haven't used my wDTV in months now.

dvb2000 said,

the point is, I bought an XBOX 360 and tried to use it as a media extender and it was nothing but trouble, in the end I threw it in the bin.

bought a WDTV live and its worked perfectly from day 1, never a problem.

Just because you couldn't get it to work does not mean that it doesn't work.

dvb2000 said,

try running it with 2 NICS in your windows machine, search the internet for media centre and 2 NICS.


Microsoft never got it right.

Install a service pack, permissions all changed on registry, never worked again.

yep, class act Microsoft!

Yes because a normal joe user in a non-business env uses teamed nics...your issue could easily be solved IN WINDOWS using a route -p command nothing to do with xbox or MCE not supporting dual NICs, that's to do with Windows TCP/IP stack and how your datas being routed.

dvb2000 said,

the point is, I bought an XBOX 360 and tried to use it as a media extender and it was nothing but trouble, in the end I threw it in the bin.

bought a WDTV live and its worked perfectly from day 1, never a problem.

You threw an Xbox 360 in the bin because the media centre extender function wasn't working for you ? Wow. now I know you're trolling.

Though to be fair, trolling Microsoft is your usual M.O. so why would I have expected any different.

dvb2000 said,
Plays CD's eh? Welcome to the 80's, seems no one has CD's any more though.

DLNA - What will it be used for? to play media onto an attached TV or something? Sorry Microsoft, your days of using the xbox as a media centre are over!. There are far better and cheaper alternatives for that these days (ones that actually work too - unlike Xbox Media centre that more often than not DOESN'T work, or won't play certain media types).

Are you serious, you giving them a pass on that. Are you going to downplay that by simply using BS rationalizations?

Mando said,
Yes because a normal joe user in a non-business env uses teamed nics...your issue could easily be solved IN WINDOWS using a route -p command

Total misinterpretation of the facts.

My NICs are not teamed (one is a dedicated Internet connection, and one is my local area connection), and I am also well aware how to use the route command, however as the XBOX is also on the same LAN as my PC it should not be required. Seems Microsoft don't understand networking very well themselves, and obviously never put a lot of effort into testing Media Centre and Media extenders much if at all.

GP007 said,
my WDTV DOESN'T like to work with Windows 8.x AT ALL. It can't find network shares and I don't see WD updating it to do so anytime soon. I haven't used my wDTV in months now.

Just another reason not to use Windows 8.

FWIW I usually copy media over to a USB key that is shared by my router and the WDTV plays it from there.

It means I don't need my PC turned on to stream local file content (which would be MOST of the time I want to stream media locally).

I also use my WDTV to stream Pandora, Netflix and Hulu plus with no reference to a local device anyway.

TCLN Ryster said,
You threw an Xbox 360 in the bin because the media centre extender function wasn't working for you ?

yep, I only bought it to be a media extender. I never bought it to play games.