Zune 2.0 details leaked

The chances of a Zune Scene editor running into a Microsoft Zune employee in the wild are pretty slim, but recently the stars were aligned and I got the inside scoop on the Zune 2.0 and also the flash based Zune coming out in 2007. I will attempt to preserve the identity of the Microsoft employee, he had no idea I write for Zune Scene, no idea at all. The whole conversation occurred on a business trip, you see, we Zune Scene editors have day jobs and are hard to spot in the wild also. When I asked the guy where he worked he said Microsoft. That got my attention so I asked what he did, the answer was: "Zune". He gave his name and title which I will withhold. So I gave him a barrage of questions and here's what I found out:

Zune 2.0 and a smaller flash based Zune will be sold this year. He would not tell me the marketing names but referred to them as the big one and little one. The hard drive version looks like the generation 1 Zune, but is thinner. It has a larger hard drive and still uses the doubleshot. The flash based player he said is about "3 by 1 1/4 by 1/4 inches" in size. It is video capable and he said the screen covers about 75% of the front, similar to the hard drive Zune. The flash player has Wi-Fi and also uses a double shot. We discussed colors, he said there were several but did not disclose them. He had some interesting points about the clamshells saying that they can't be opened easily like the current Zune. Both devices have completed the design phase, although some last minute minor tweaks to the hardware will occur. When I asked about memory capacity he said "you have to beat the competition you know" he also said the flash memory fills the smaller device from top to bottom. Surprisingly he gave some hard numbers: 2.4 million next gen Zunes will be fabricated prior the 2007 holiday season. About 2/3 of them are the smaller flash units. "

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Zune and iPod uses same old-style 4:3 aspect ratio crap. Hello!!! It is 2007 now. Age of Digital HDTV! All professional video sources are widescreen! It was time to switch to 16:9 long time before (learn from Sony you technology morons from Microsoft and Apple )! All movies and new TV rips on internet are widescreen now! For how long we can drag this Stone Age aspect ratio?

Zune's first problem is it looks strange, I think Toshiba made it specifically to be outdone by their own devices

You want and alround player get a Zen Vision:M, flashplayer Zen V Plus, or if you're buying specifically for Video Vision:W

MS has a golden opportunity, as it's unlikely Apple will release a new iPod so close to the iPhone. Now, jump!

Well, it needs to be the same size or smaller than the iPod and it needs to be cheaper. The first-gen Zune was a waste of space and didn't contribute anything to the market - hopefully Microsoft has learnt some lessons.

Though I didn't buy one, I really liked the fact it had a bigger screen, which is why it's bigger, all be it by a bit, over the iPod. Which isn't exactly a first gen iPod either. If anyone remembers the first gen iPods, then they know how much they lacked, and overall, sucked.

GP007 said,
Though I didn't buy one, I really liked the fact it had a bigger screen, which is why it's bigger, all be it by a bit, over the iPod. Which isn't exactly a first gen iPod either. If anyone remembers the first gen iPods, then they know how much they lacked, and overall, sucked.

You cant compare the first gen iPod to the first gen Zune ... the first ipod came out in 2001 ... technology has progressed a lot since then ... the only comparison is between a 2006 iPod and a 2006 Zune ... and well in my opinion, the zune looks like a kids toy and the ipod looks elegant ...

well make it cheaper, better, allow divx and xvid to be played. No crappy useless zune software make it easier to sync like a mass drive or something.

Consider this otherwise zune 2 will flop like zune 1

except the Zune 1 didn't flop.


It took over 5% of the market. so in it's first few months, the Zune grabbed a market share greater than what Apple computers have. yeah... big flop..

You mean 2.3% of the US market only.

And considering their most modest goals were to provide the marketplace what it's "partners" couldn't, and yet they only stole marketshare from their partners with no gain against Apple, that SanDisk and Creative both are performing better than Microsoft, yes, it is a FLOP.

dp123 said,
You mean 2.3% of the US market only.

And considering their most modest goals were to provide the marketplace what it's "partners" couldn't, and yet they only stole marketshare from their partners with no gain against Apple, that SanDisk and Creative both are performing better than Microsoft, yes, it is a FLOP.

I know about Creative and a few others, but when did Sandisk make a HDD based mp3 player? And I think you're both wrong on the %, i've heard from a few places and podcasts that the Zune took 10% of the HDD based market. What that translates to for the total MP3 player market when you add in flash based drives also, I don't know.

Humm, this could be interesting. Too bad they're not coming out in the next couple weeks. I'm scared to buy a first gen Zune and my fiancee wants one for her trip to Italy for a month.

I look forward to the next gen Zune. If the price beats out the iPod I will almost certainly get one. If the price is about the same (which the current Zune is) then I'll probably hold off for a bit longer.

Although I think it would be funny if the guy who said he worked for Microsoft turned out to be a pathological liar.