WP7 and Zune syncing available for Mac soon

In a surprise move, Microsoft UK’s head of Windows Phone marketing, Oded Ran, tweeted that Mac users will be able to sync Windows Phone 7 devices with a version of the Zune software for Macs. This tweet has since been removed from Twitter.

The Zune software on PC's will be the only way to sync media, photos, music, and videos from a user’s PC to their phone unless that same content is also stored in the cloud. Microsoft has yet to officially explain, in detail, how Mac users will be able to sync their media to the phones. It has been thought that, like KIN, Microsoft will provide a small application that allows for syncing with Windows Phone 7 from a Mac.

The implied meaning of the tweet is that there will be more than just a small client available to sync Macs and WP7 devices.

It has long been requested by Mac users that Microsoft release a Zune client for the Apple operating system. There has also been growing requests over the past few months that Microsoft should build a Zune app for iOS and Android. With Zune not gaining huge market share in the US, it makes sense for Microsoft to offer users of other desktop and mobile platforms access to the service.

As Windows Phone 7 requires the Zune Software to sync with PCs, the new version of the software is now supported in all counrties that Microsoft will be selling Windows Phone 7. Users in some countries will be able to purchase the Zune Pass, a monthly subscription service, allowing users to listen to as many of the 8~10 million song as they want. With an update to Xbox 360's dashboard coming in the next few weeks, it will be possible for people to stream music through their TV's too using a Zune Pass.

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They must be much further down the developement timeline since there are only 1.5 months until the end of 2010. It would seem plausable that this software will also allow the syncing the Zune HD with Zune Pass. But I'm not sure Microsoft should be so quick to bring Apple to the party so soon after the launch. I would rather they concentrate on continuing to make Zune+ZuneHD/WP7 the best experience on Windows first.

Now all they need to do is allow the Zune software to sync iPod's/iPhone's and I'll never have to touch iTunes again....I can dream!

Stokkolm said,
Now all they need to do is allow the Zune software to sync iPod's/iPhone's and I'll never have to touch iTunes again....I can dream!

Damn, that would be sweet.

Stokkolm said,
Now all they need to do is allow the Zune software to sync iPod's/iPhone's and I'll never have to touch iTunes again....I can dream!

Well keep dreaming then because it won't happen!!!!!

Stokkolm said,
Now all they need to do is allow the Zune software to sync iPod's/iPhone's and I'll never have to touch iTunes again....I can dream!

Never in a million years.

How funny would it be if the original push from Apple into the Windows realm turned full-face and became the big Windows push into the Mac?

iTunes on Windows originally was made for the iPod users to actually have software that they can use. Now, Zune on Mac so people can use their Zunes/WP7 phones? Clearly the numbers won't be the same, but I bet at least a hand full of buyers were turned away from Zune because they couldn't use it on their Mac, or easily augment their existing iTunes library with a Zune library.

I'd also love to see Zune Pass on the iOS for iPod touch/iPhone integration. I guarantee you'd see a lot of Zune Pass sales if they could beat Apple to market (Apple is rumored to be trying to work out a subscription deal similar to Zune Pass). It would also be hilarious to watch Microsoft use Apple's hardware sales to boost its subscription sales, and slowly bring people over to Zune and WP7 (identically to how iTunes brought people to the Mac).

I'd also love to see Zune Pass on the iOS for iPod touch/iPhone integration.

Would be impossible. Apple earns too much money from their store to allow someone else to steal that.

/- Razorfold said,

Would be impossible. Apple earns too much money from their store to allow someone else to steal that.

Real Rhapsody was allowed on iPhone. It allows downloads too. Not as big of a threat as Zune would be. It would be interesting if it were released and denied given that there is software on the App Store that essentially does the same thing.

I think that for MS having Zune Pass exclusive to THEIR platform presents more of an edge for them. They won't be releasing a Zune app for iPhone anytime soon.

Shadrack said,

Real Rhapsody was allowed on iPhone. It allows downloads too. Not as big of a threat as Zune would be. It would be interesting if it were released and denied given that there is software on the App Store that essentially does the same thing.

Ah I didn't know that. Odd though.

Shadrack said,

I think that for MS having Zune Pass exclusive to THEIR platform presents more of an edge for them. They won't be releasing a Zune app for iPhone anytime soon.

Yes, I agree.

CarlMS said,
Why does the watermark have to be so big?!

They're afraid the actual text gets more attention than the Neowin logo.

I doubt that is what he means. Perhaps he was just saying that there will be some method for MAC users? Similar to the 3rd party application the KIN used?

Otherwise, this is wonderful if true. (and if Steve Jobs gives it his blessing)

majg said,
I doubt that is what he means. Perhaps he was just saying that there will be some method for MAC users? Similar to the 3rd party application the KIN used?

Otherwise, this is wonderful if true. (and if Steve Jobs gives it his blessing)

Steve Jobs has no control over what you install to your mac. Only the iOS app store.

Mephistopheles said,
Please yes. If done right Zune/OS X will be a good alternative to iTunes.

Hopefully it will actually have an interface that fits in on Mac OS X.

.Neo said,

Hopefully it will actually have an interface that fits in on Mac OS X.

I say don't use MacOS interface at all. It should be the exact same that they use on Windows (which doesn't use the windows interface...whatever that may be...lol!)

Zedox said,

I say don't use MacOS interface at all. It should be the exact same that they use on Windows (which doesn't use the windows interface...whatever that may be...lol!)

Just like how iTunes uses its own UI.

.Neo said,

Hopefully it will actually have an interface that fits in on Mac OS X.

Part of me finds it a bit funny some UI purists will gouge their eyes out at the Zune Software's Metro UI ported almost as is to Mac OS X. Kind of like the iTunes treatment but in reverse.

Alright, maybe not so much reverse, as Metro doesn't fit in with either OS period.

rm20010 said,

Part of me finds it a bit funny some UI purists will gouge their eyes out at the Zune Software's Metro UI ported almost as is to Mac OS X. Kind of like the iTunes treatment but in reverse.

Alright, maybe not so much reverse, as Metro doesn't fit in with either OS period.

It doesn't have to fit with any OS, I like the Zune PC software UI just fine.

.Neo said,

Hopefully it will actually have an interface that fits in on Mac OS X.

There are very few applications even by Apple that 'fit' in with the OS. I'd sooner see these organisations focus on having consistent behaviour rather than necessarily being hung up about the 'look and feel' of the application. If Microsoft can create a great application that looks wonderful and operates consistently with the rest of the OS it would be further ahead than iTunes as so far as over all experience.

rawr_boy81 said,
There are very few applications even by Apple that 'fit' in with the OS.

Address Book
Automator
Calculator
Chess
Dictionary
DVD Player
Finder
Font Book
iCal
iChat
iDVD
Image Capture
iMovie
iPhoto
iSync
iWeb
Keynote
Mail
Numbers
Pages
Photo Booth
Preview
QuickTime Player
Remote Desktop
Safari
System Preferences
Text Edit

All fit in beautifully with Mac OS X itself and how Aqua is supposed to look like. There are some anomalies to be found here and there such as iTunes and Garageband but even those are still a fit in the general Aqua fibe. Pro applications such as Aperture have their own light grey "Pro" look to distinguish them, but still manage to integrate with Aqua just fine. Buttons, scroll bars etc. still use the same shapes and general Aqua design, but just have another color.

The overal icon theme is the same throughout Mac OS X and its application. The same can't be said of Windows 7 which is a mix of its own new cartoonish style and Windows Vista's icon set. And then of course are all the legacy icons from Windows XP and below to be found left and right.

All in all it doesn't come anywhere near the Aero - Zune Software discrepancy. Not to mention Mac OS X lacks any legacy icons etc. except one found in Startup Disk for a HDD holding Windows.

Edited by .Neo, Oct 13 2010, 6:47pm :

Owen Williams said,
This will help Microsoft with WP7 penetration a lot...

Yep, it should guarantee at least two or three extra customers