Zune HD pictures and specs

Late last week Zune HD pictures began leaking from Redmond. We can confirm the pictures were from a promotional internal video and now Wmpoweruser have received some additional pictures and information.

Referred to internally as "Zune v4 powered by HD" the Zune HD looks like a 1st generation iPhone with brushed aluminum back, pure glass front and multi-touch and wireless connectivity. The device is due to ship later this year in 16GB and 32GB versions. Microsoft's latest media player has no buttons on the front and a HDMI connection to play your HD content straight onto TV.

Microsoft is expected to update the Zune Marketplace with games, HD content and other goodies for this new Zune. The Zune player software will allow for HD video on the device alongside HD radio and wireless connectivity. The device will contain a full multi-touch browser allowing users to browse the web over wireless connections.

Microsoft will also be offering home av packs, car packs and charge packs as accessory items for the upcoming zunes. According to company insiders the software giant is also considering a dock accessory and limited editions colours.

As we previously reported, the new Zune will be available internationally.

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probably going to upgrade to this one

For some reason I don't like using my cell phone as an MP3 player.

and I'm not rich by the way and I have a phone and a MP3 player

Can't fit too much HD video with only 32GB... :(. Still, it looks super sexy. I'm with Gamerhomie, I want to see a 160GB version!

Also, I'm not sure I like touch screens. Makes it hard to change tracks while the device is in your front pocket.

So erm. What's HD Radio? I have never, ever heard of this before. I've heard of analogue and digital radio and that's it. Unless you are talking about podcasts, but that's not really radio, is it?
If this has a digital radio tuner, I am officially sold.

Kushan said,
So erm. What's HD Radio? I have never, ever heard of this before. I've heard of analogue and digital radio and that's it. Unless you are talking about podcasts, but that's not really radio, is it?
If this has a digital radio tuner, I am officially sold.

From what i understand HD radio is a form of digital radio used in the USA. But unlike DAB used in Europe, the digital version of a channel is broadcast on the same frequency alongside the analogue version. My understanding may be wrong though, so someone please correct me

LanMan874 said,


From what i understand HD radio is a form of digital radio used in the USA. But unlike DAB used in Europe, the digital version of a channel is broadcast on the same frequency alongside the analogue version. My understanding may be wrong though, so someone please correct me


I too believe that's how it works. Kind of like the way HD TV is broadcast, at least here in the US.

I wonder if Zune Marketplace will go International as well.
Its still not available in Canada and we've had the Zune here since last summer.

I would like to know this as well. My theory is that they were just getting all the licensing in order before going international. I'm signing up the second the marketplace is available.

You are aware that if you change your PC's regional settings to "US" and restart the Zune software, the marketplace appears, right?

Then it's just a matter of buying MS Points from, say, Ebay?

That said, I agree that it totally SUCKS that the Marketplace and Zune Pass aren't available here. If the HD roll-out includes Canadian access to the marketplace, I'm there on day one.

The ZuneHD is looking good. I just hope it won't only be available in 16 & 32GB, i'd like something a bit bigger.

The article also mentions HD Radio. What about the European version as (North America's) HD Radio isn't used here, we have DAB Digital Radio. DAB as well as FM & MP3/WMA/AAC/WMV/MPEG4 playback makes an excellent combination. Then i can ditch my Pure PocketDAB 1500.

I'd also like to see DivX & MKV support. Don't want to have to transcode video view viewing on the Zune. Who knows, now that Windows natively supports DivX, it could be poosible, not holding my breath though. don't plan do die so young...

I'll be getting one if these

DivX/Xvid and MP4 are a possibility, but mkv I doubt. Even WMP doesn't natively support it yet. You still need a splitter and so on.

GP007 said,
DivX/Xvid and MP4 are a possibility, but mkv I doubt. Even WMP doesn't natively support it yet. You still need a splitter and so on.

Maybe Microsoft will leave it open enough to support 3rd party codecs and decoders? That would be unbelievably awesome...

If Zune HD is cheaper than iPod Touch, I'll ditch iPod and go with a Zune. My iPod 5.5G is still a good music player that I use daily but it's showing it's age. Zune HD looks like a good replacement

Hope this is available as a prize on Live Search Club! MICROSOFT!! ARE YOU LISTENING I WANT THIS ON LIVE SEARCH CLUB!

Hell yeah. I've been very pleased with my small Zune 4GB, but in all honesty, I have been missing my iPod Touch. I'll definitely be picking this up when it comes out.

-Spenser

it's ok but it's still sticking to purely PMP so not following in foot steps of ipod touch at all besides the screen.

Is there going to be a new "classic" style zune with a larger hdd to 80GB maybe too with new release ?

Digix said,
it's ok but it's still sticking to purely PMP so not following in foot steps of ipod touch at all besides the screen.

For the PDA-like functions, that's the realm of Windows Mobile. We'll probably see those integrate in the future.

are we SURE there are no thumb-controls on the side? I see the lock-slider's there(Already an improvement over the touch/iphone) so i wouldn't be surprised terribly to see a thumb switch for next-back...

~ one season of HDTV... sure you couldn't fit your ENTIRE collection on it all at once, but it'd be more then enough for a day-full of video watching.

like I said in the previous topic, this won't pack much HD at all... you can surely fit a a good deal of 720p stuff, but I'm guessing it will just take 2 or 3 movies in 1080p to fill its capacity. (without cheating by using a crappy bitrate ).

Why? What sort of logic do you have that says WinMo phone makers will jump ship if MS finally does decide to sell it's own phone?

Nokia owns Symbian and uses it on all it's own phone, yet look at how many other cellphone makers also use it still.

This has a big chance to be real, as it looks like a Solidworks render with the interface stamped on it (and I think the interface mockup was leaked before as "WM7")

certainly looks sexy, but I'm still happy with my ipod nano 4th gen. it's so small i can always carry it with me, plus, I still prefer buttons over touchscreens for musicplayers as others already mentioned.

Just moved back from the USA to the UK, just in time for Microsoft to finally release internationally, assuming they are releasing in the UK (not sure if it was mentioned in the previous post either). Time to replace my V1 Zune.

I have a Zune 30, but I probably would not buy this the same reason I wouldn't buy an iPod Touch or any other "touch" player: I can't change the song through my jacket. On my Zune V1 I can feel where the circle is and press on the right area for volume/track...with these players, I have to open my jacket = horrible usability for me.

I have that same concern. I have a Zune80 and I like that it stays in my pocket and I can adjust volume, pause, fast forward, rewind and skip without looking at it but I'd still buy the new one.

looks flimsy....

will the glass screen shatter and perforate my ass when i accidentally sit down with it in my back pocket?

i prefer those with tiny plastic screens and cheap plasticky feel, so i won't feel bad when they finally succumb to my ginormous weight.....

surprisingly, my Zen V+ can take quite a pounding.... and not a scratch....

mocax said,
looks flimsy....

will the glass screen shatter and perforate my ass when i accidentally sit down with it in my back pocket?


Don't put it in your back pocket?

mocax said,
looks flimsy....

will the glass screen shatter and perforate my ass when i accidentally sit down with it in my back pocket?

i prefer those with tiny plastic screens and cheap plasticky feel, so i won't feel bad when they finally succumb to my ginormous weight.....

surprisingly, my Zen V+ can take quite a pounding.... and not a scratch....

If your too fat to sit on it...

wait for it...

don't sit on it

Common sense people. It's a lost art.

mocax said,
looks flimsy....

will the glass screen shatter and perforate my ass when i accidentally sit down with it in my back pocket?

i prefer those with tiny plastic screens and cheap plasticky feel, so i won't feel bad when they finally succumb to my ginormous weight.....

surprisingly, my Zen V+ can take quite a pounding.... and not a scratch....

I have an ipod touch thats glass and its not flimsy just use a screen protector and you will be fine.

mocax said,
looks flimsy....

will the glass screen shatter and perforate my ass when i accidentally sit down with it in my back pocket?

Hopefully it will so you realize how retarded it is to put a device in your back pocket then sit on it.

The other Zunes have a glass screen, and I've only heard of maniacs who throw phones and MP3 players getting their screens broken.

MightyJordan said,
I love the look of it, but I'm disappointed by the size. I was expecting to see a 64GB model. :(

Aye, I am a little disappointed too, as my Zen Vision:M from years ago (2004 or so) was already 30GB. But, that had a much smaller screen, no touch and few of the other features of this Zune - so I still want one

That Zen doesn't use Flash though does it? Sure HDD versions are bigger, but that's cuz the flash they use now isn't as yet as cheap per gig.

GP007 said,
That Zen doesn't use Flash though does it? Sure HDD versions are bigger, but that's cuz the flash they use now isn't as yet as cheap per gig.

Indeed, it wasn't using flash. I'd still prefer a bigger drive, of course, but I know a 32 GB flash drive will have advantages over an old style 30GB one.

Windows7even said,
could we see the first glimpse of microsoft's future browser technology...u thinkin what im thinkin...webkit?


no

If this is what I expect it to be, then looks like I'm going to need a different car adapter to use it in my car.

(and my existing iPod adapter for a Mazda3, along with a 1st gen 16gb ipod touch will also be on sale)

Wow! It is much much much better than I expected!
I do hope it has all the benefits of a non-Apple product though (that is: removable storage and removable battery).

Looks Very Sexy, Should come with inbuilt speakers and Internet explorer or browser that will also support flash

if there in it, selling my iPod Touch 8gb

"Microsoft's latest media player has no buttons on the front and a HDMI connection to play your HD content straight onto TV"

Does this mean Tegra? If so, I have a 2nd gen iPod touch 16gig for sale!

Solid Knight said,
Is it all touch? No buttons?

There's one button on it; the bottom of the front.

I don't like that idea either. I hope they bundle a remote adapter that you can attach onto your headphones to control it without having to take it out.

Solid Knight said,
So I have to look at the device to use it? Fail.

+1. Useless for me as well unless I want to freeze during the winter before find the right song...or get it all greasy during the summer from sweat.

Solid Knight said,
So I have to look at the device to use it? Fail.

Agreed. This is probably the single biggest reason why I own a Zune 80 and not an iPod Touch.

There's a jailbreak app that replaces the music player, and supports gestures.

I can use a touch by reaching into my pocket, hitting the button, and swiping my finger either up/down for volume, or left/right for next/prev track, and tapping it for stop.

If Microsoft gave us those kind of gestures, this would rock.

first! wow it actually looks quite good. if only ms sold these overseas then we'll have competition!
edit: international sales aye, sounds good.

AnthoWin said,
first! wow it actually looks quite good. if only ms sold these overseas then we'll have competition!
edit: international sales aye, sounds good.


May I ask: what's the point of these players like this then you can get a mobile phone (pretty much same screen size or bigger) with more functions and sleek look? Yes, it's more expensive, but at least you have 1 device for everything.

Preferences for a phone:
QWERTY keyboard, smaller screen so it doesn't slide out (extra bulk), resistive screen so I can do handwriting.

Preferences for mobile PMP/whatever:
Full large capacitive screen without qwerty for nice web browsing and gaming.

Note, that's just my preferences, yours may vary.

In my opinion, a device like this would absolutely suck _as a phone_ because of its capacitive screen (no handwriting) and lack of QWERTY (for writing out documents / texts /emails and calendar entries). This is why I don't like the iPhone but like iPod touch.

Of course, it's more convenient to have it all in one device (and actually, contrary to what you say, cheaper). I guess it's just for rich people who can afford to have two dedicated devices or people who don't have HDMI/nice screen/nice games on their phone.

Sacha said,
Preferences for a phone:
QWERTY keyboard, smaller screen so it doesn't slide out (extra bulk), resistive screen so I can do handwriting.

Preferences for mobile PMP/whatever:
Full large capacitive screen without qwerty for nice web browsing and gaming.

Note, that's just my preferences, yours may vary.

In my opinion, a device like this would absolutely suck _as a phone_ because of its capacitive screen (no handwriting) and lack of QWERTY (for writing out documents / texts /emails and calendar entries). This is why I don't like the iPhone but like iPod touch.

Of course, it's more convenient to have it all in one device (and actually, contrary to what you say, cheaper). I guess it's just for rich people who can afford to have two dedicated devices or people who don't have HDMI/nice screen/nice games on their phone.


Check HTC Touch Pro2. I'll be buying it on XMas or so once prices goes down.

FoxieFoxie said,

May I ask: what's the point of these players like this then you can get a mobile phone (pretty much same screen size or bigger) with more functions and sleek look? Yes, it's more expensive, but at least you have 1 device for everything.

I despise mobile phones, so I guess people like me are still interested in things like this. (Apple is still selling iPods, too. :))

Yes, it looks very hot but even I could have made this rendering... its hotness derives largely from its slim profile.

Also IMO, this ought to be a phone too but this render clearly isn't.

FoxieFoxie - Some folks like myslef actually prefer dedicated devices. I currently have a Zune 80 with a colleciton of 4800 songs, 400 pictures and 22 videos. One shot wonders like the iPhone just don't work for me because they can't hold all my stuff and often get in the way of me listening to my music particularly because it when I get home I place my device on a dock and listen to it through my larger stereo speakers. I hate to have to have the thing ring in the middle of a song which is why my cell phone is a separate device all together.

FoxieFoxie said,


May I ask: what's the point of these players like this then you can get a mobile phone (pretty much same screen size or bigger) with more functions and sleek look? Yes, it's more expensive, but at least you have 1 device for everything.


You also have a massive battery drain for a discretionary device. I'd much rather have a separate phone.