Admins: Don't panic, IE9 not being pushed out to all users (yet)

Admins can rest easy for a bit as it seems there was a bit of a miscommunication by Microsoft's IE team earlier this month. They advised then that IE9 would be pushed out to all users by March 21. As it turns out the software giant is staggering out the rollout of IE9 via Windows Update starting with beta and RC users first. Microsoft's Doug Neal had this to say on the matter:

We're working to correct this miscommunication.

To be clear, IE9 RTW released to AU/WU today for IE9 Beta and RC users only. Only AU/WU machines with IE9 Beta or RC will see this update -- and it will be un-selected by default. Which is why there's no broad communications yet (perhaps there should have been).

For machines not managed by WSUS, SMS, or SCCM, IE9 is not yet available since we don't release pre-release content (or, in this case, specifically targeted updates to a subset of machines) to WSUS.

I can't speak to future release dates, but I encourage all admins to deploy the IE9 Blocker Toolkit to unmanaged machines where they need to block the installation of IE9 for AppCompat or testing reasons.

So in short, it will be a little while before we see in IE9 in WSUS. This will give admins time to prepare, so there's no need panic about not having time to test how line of business applications are affected by IE9. In any case IE9 will rather curiously be labeled as an update rollup rather than a feature update, so it should be easier to spot in WSUS.

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syobon999 said,
I actually uninstalled IE from my computer, maybe just the shortcuts, i don't care, IE9 is no match for Opera.

I'd give it a try, but their whineyness has put me off ever using it.

syobon999 said,
I actually uninstalled IE from my computer, maybe just the shortcuts, i don't care, IE9 is no match for Opera.

The day I use Opera is the day, they actually make it look native than a cheap knock off that doesn't look anything native. Plus, Chrome is much better anyways.

Frylock86 said,

I'd give it a try, but their whineyness has put me off ever using it.

I guess you would neither want to use Mozilla Firefox nor Google Chrome.

I'd love to use it at work but the company I work for (a VERY large high street retailer) has only just finished rolling out Vista to all stores (with IE7). New POS software is coming later in the year as they still use NT. Apparently Windows 7 is being tested in Head Office before being rolled out across the country.

I love the corporate whinge. Move forward with technology instead of continued use of dodgy outdated platforms.

You want to run an IT department. Put money into it.

Orange Battery said,
Wish I could get IE9 for XP, Im not loving FF or Chrome.

Well update to Windows 7. There is nothing left in Windows XP, to keep it around anymore.

ZekeComa said,

Well update to Windows 7. There is nothing left in Windows XP, to keep it around anymore.

I would my friend but I just cant justify an upgrade for a browser. 7 Is a good OS but doesn't offer me anything a I need right now. Im more of a file maintenance guy, am just hoping win 8 gives some upgrades when it comes to file and folder maintenance.

Orange Battery said,

I would my friend but I just cant justify an upgrade for a browser. 7 Is a good OS but doesn't offer me anything a I need right now. Im more of a file maintenance guy, am just hoping win 8 gives some upgrades when it comes to file and folder maintenance.


You don't consider Windows Search and Libraries useful?
The stability alone is worth upgrading to Windows 7.

Orange Battery said,

I would my friend but I just cant justify an upgrade for a browser. 7 Is a good OS but doesn't offer me anything a I need right now. Im more of a file maintenance guy, am just hoping win 8 gives some upgrades when it comes to file and folder maintenance.

You don't care for better security? More hardware support? Better applications? etc?

ZekeComa said,

You don't care for better security? More hardware support? Better applications? etc?

Better security ? Prove it.
If your refering to UAC we all know its on all versions of xp.. just the nagging crap is off by default. If i want something like uac i can find it on almost any nix distro.

Hardware support ? I can't imagine vista/win7 supports more than xp in comparison.
Better applications ? Ok seriously wtf ? where do you get that from ?
Post a link to a well known good program that can NOT be run on xp..

Windows is bloated garbage and im sure they will as they always do increase
the system requirements for the next OS and add some minor feature improvements
and add another 30 or so proccess's that will need to be disabled after a fresh install
i have a bout 23 running in taskmanager how many do you have ?
one word. BENCHMARK ..lets see anyone anywhere prove the new garbage is faster.

I am Not PCyr said,

Better security ? Prove it.
If your refering to UAC we all know its on all versions of xp.. just the nagging crap is off by default. If i want something like uac i can find it on almost any nix distro.

Hardware support ? I can't imagine vista/win7 supports more than xp in comparison.
Better applications ? Ok seriously wtf ? where do you get that from ?
Post a link to a well known good program that can NOT be run on xp..

Windows is bloated garbage and im sure they will as they always do increase
the system requirements for the next OS and add some minor feature improvements
and add another 30 or so proccess's that will need to be disabled after a fresh install
i have a bout 23 running in taskmanager how many do you have ?
one word. BENCHMARK ..lets see anyone anywhere prove the new garbage is faster.

Read my forum signature. This is to the whiny Windows XP users. Personally I see no point in XP, as it's ugly, outdated by many many years. Many hardware companies won't be making drivers for it much longer. None of my computers will even run the installation without BSoDing.

Personally, they complaining they can't use IE9. Though my opinion of it is not important. But, why don't they just upgrade to using Windows 7. I don't know the security of Windows 7, as I rarely use it. Just going by what "Microsoft claims". Hell you even get DirectX 11 with Windows 7. It won't be on XP. Good luck trying to play Crysis 2 in DX11 mode and other DX11 games.

3TB hard drives can't be installed in XP due to limitations. What you going to due when you buy a new computer and can't install XP? what you going to do then? Almost 90% of the people have no reasons to be on XP, other than being too lazy or too cheap.

Why don't you email Microsoft and ask them to quit milking everyone out of money and forcing users to buy a new computer everytime they release a new OS. Hell, Linux runs still on 20+ year old hardware. Might not be good but it's possible. Blame Microsoft for ripping people off and charging more than what it's really worth instead of bitching because they don't want you using a goddamn 10+ year old OS. Do you blame them for wanting to kill it? It's 10+ years old, get over yourself.

ZekeComa said,
Read my forum signature.
ZekeComa said,
Server System: CPU: AMD Athlon X2 64 3800+ 2.00GHz Mobo: HP a1700n Video: nVidia 6150LE RAM: 2.5GB DDR2 533 HDD: 500GB OS: Gentoo Linux Hardened 64bit
New System: CPU: Intel Xeon x3440 2.53GHz Mobo: EVGA P55 LE Video: nVidia GeForce 460 GTX 768MB RAM: 6GB DDR3 2600 HDD: 500GB OS: Gentoo Linux 64bit
Laptop: CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 6400T 2.0GHz. Mobo: Toshiba Satellite Video: ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3650 RAM: 4GB DD2 HDD:400GB OS: Gentoo Linux 64bit

I am Not PCyr said,

Better security ? Prove it.
If your refering to UAC we all know its on all versions of xp.. just the nagging crap is off by default. If i want something like uac i can find it on almost any nix distro.


The imporant security improvements in Windows Vista and Windows 7 cannot be seen by the end user - for instance, ASLR. Address Space Layout Randomization helps prevent buffer overflow exploits - at least, it makes them much more difficult to exploit. There are plenty of other examples of new security features that have been added to Windows after XP.

I am Not PCyr said,
Better security ? Prove it.
If your refering to UAC we all know its on all versions of xp.. just the nagging crap is off by default. If i want something like uac i can find it on almost any nix distro.

Hardware support ? I can't imagine vista/win7 supports more than xp in comparison.
Better applications ? Ok seriously wtf ? where do you get that from ?
Post a link to a well known good program that can NOT be run on xp..

Windows is bloated garbage and im sure they will as they always do increase
the system requirements for the next OS and add some minor feature improvements
and add another 30 or so proccess's that will need to be disabled after a fresh install
i have a bout 23 running in taskmanager how many do you have ?
one word. BENCHMARK ..lets see anyone anywhere prove the new garbage is faster.

The fact that you're going on about UAC nagging tells me you know nothing about computers at all; UAC prompts because programmers haven't written their application correctly (for restricted permissions). Windows 7 isn't the problem, ignorant end users and lazy programmers are.

rfirth said,

The imporant security improvements in Windows Vista and Windows 7 cannot be seen by the end user - for instance, ASLR. Address Space Layout Randomization helps prevent buffer overflow exploits - at least, it makes them much more difficult to exploit. There are plenty of other examples of new security features that have been added to Windows after XP.

Win7 is no more secure than Windows 2000 or XP . just check each month the affected OS in Windows updates. Until 3 months ago it started with Win 2000 sp4 up to Win7 64 bit sp1 and Server 2008 r2 sp1. All have the same 15 years old security bugs.

DEP & ASLR are daily hacked by script kiddies (read all about it on the latest pwn2own reports).

Orange Battery said,
Wish I could get IE9 for XP, Im not loving FF or Chrome.

If IE9 ran on XP, you do realise all you would have is basically just IE8 SP1, right?

I hope we get some notice about this when the IE9 comes on WSUS and be able to approve it and not have it automatically approved. I had no notice about Win7 SP1 appearing on WSUS until it was too late as WSUS automatically approved it for deployment.

I wanted it to be able to manually approve it in WSUS like I did with previous Windows Service Packs but no they just pushed it out and had users complain it was taking so long to install.

I know about the blocker tool but in the past I didn't need it given I could just tock a box in WSUS to approve the Service Packs and IE upgrades to be rolled out.

I don't think they forced it, most likely it was done according to your server's own auto-approval settings. My WSUS server still has Win7 SP1 waiting to be approved. I realize this is after the fact now, but you may want to check your approval options.

I didn't change it since the last few Windows Service Pack releases, so I guess the MS marked it differently and the WSUS server just auto-approved it. I'm not complaining as we coped ok but consistency for Service Packs would be nice, not much to ask surely?

More companies should go for the upgrade path that my business took.
Stuck on xp with no sign of ever upgrading. Some crooks break in and steal every computer in the place.
Instant upgrade to windows 7.

the better twin said,
More companies should go for the upgrade path that my business took.
Stuck on xp with no sign of ever upgrading. Some crooks break in and steal every computer in the place.
Instant upgrade to windows 7.

What?

the better twin said,
More companies should go for the upgrade path that my business took.
Stuck on xp with no sign of ever upgrading. Some crooks break in and steal every computer in the place.
Instant upgrade to windows 7.

So how much did you sell the old computers on eBay for?

I understand why corporate networks need time or sometimes the cost is not worth the trouble but please make it mandatory for the rest of the normal users out there, as a web developer I would greatly appreciated ;-)

3dfxman said,

people still use xp? lol

If a person is happy using XP, what's it to ya? Too many people are obsessed with always having the latest version of software. Do you buy a new car every year when the new models come out? A new TV, house, appliances, furniture? Why is it just software some of you are so picky about?

alexalex said,

The majority is using XP. Vista/7 not to be seen.

Exaggerating much? XP has a majority, for now. But not by a lot.
XP 48% vs. Vista/7 43%

COKid said,

If a person is happy using XP, what's it to ya? Too many people are obsessed with always having the latest version of software. Do you buy a new car every year when the new models come out? A new TV, house, appliances, furniture? Why is it just software some of you are so picky about?

Cars, furniture and appliances aren't comparable to computer software.

COKid said,
If a person is happy using XP, what's it to ya? Too many people are obsessed with always having the latest version of software. Do you buy a new car every year when the new models come out? A new TV, house, appliances, furniture? Why is it just software some of you are so picky about?

Good, and whilst we're on the subject, you use what you want but you forfeit your right to complain about the problems you're experiencing. People who use Windows XP are like obese people eating a double cheese burger with a king size fries and a sugary coke whilst whining about how it is so difficult to lose weight.

" theres no need panic about not having time to test how line of business applications are affected by IE9" haha... sure, even if you gave a lot of them all the time in the world they'd still want more...

Why would Admins panic, They would just block the update until they are ready to release it themselves. Update services on your domain.