Deeper Facebook integration coming to Windows Phone 7 soon

Windows Phone 7 has had excellent Facebook integration from the very first boot, but the platform is lacking in some areas, and it looks like Facebook and Microsoft are intending on adding even deeper integration into the phone.

Neowin today uncovered evidence on Facebook itself that indicates Windows Phone 7 may eventually be able to utilize Facebook Places, as well as Chat, sending and receiving SMS's from the app, alongside various other features. While these features are not yet present on the phone's platform, it appears the permissions to use the features are already in place on Facebook. Microsoft hasn't officially said anything about adding these features, but it would make sense for them to appear sometime. 

The information comes from the "permissions" screen for Windows Phone 7 on Facebook, and can only be seen once the phone is added and allowed to access the users' profile. The Windows Phone 7 platform has access to these features right now, even though some are not implemented:

The official Facebook application, which is available in the marketplace has these permissions right now:

This could all mean that these features aren't that far away, there's been no official announcement from Microsoft, but features such as these could be included in the first Windows Phone 7 platform update, due out sometime next year. Deeper integration would make WP7 even more compelling, especially if chat integration was added. Many users will be happy to hear the news, as further integration could make the platforms following even stronger.

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Dashel said,
How about working on supporting custom ringtones first...

They've already done that - and its in testing for the January update.

Dashel said,
How about working on supporting custom ringtones first...

how about making the ringtones work?! haha, i have a WP7 and the ringtone never plays the one i chose (it does but sometimes it plays the one i had on before)

When will all these idiots get over shoving Facebook into your everything, not everyone wants it or uses it, don't integrate that crap into the OS. I do not wish to pay Facebook a subsidy for my new phone. Make it a download for the people who want it, not loaded as standard.

pgp66 said,
When will all these idiots get over shoving Facebook into your everything, not everyone wants it or uses it, don't integrate that crap into the OS. I do not wish to pay Facebook a subsidy for my new phone. Make it a download for the people who want it, not loaded as standard.

Is it not enough for you that it's disabled by default? Besides, it's very well done and very useful.

pgp66 said,
When will all these idiots get over shoving Facebook into your everything, not everyone wants it or uses it, don't integrate that crap into the OS. I do not wish to pay Facebook a subsidy for my new phone. Make it a download for the people who want it, not loaded as standard.

Thank you! I could not agree more. I do not want anything to do with the 21st Century plague.....

rfirth said,

Is it not enough for you that it's disabled by default? Besides, it's very well done and very useful.

No, it is not. With this new "brilliant" concept of locked storage I do not want to have space waisted for that garbage.

Fritzly said,

No, it is not. With this new "brilliant" concept of locked storage I do not want to have space waisted for that garbage.

No, it's not enough that it is disabled rfirth, as Friszly says, it's a waste of space. Facebook and Twitter are the new AOL cd's that plagued us all during the 90's and that stupid Google toolbar of the 00's. Get rid of them both from WP7, they can be downloaded for the people who want them.

pgp66 said,
When will all these idiots get over shoving Facebook into your everything, not everyone wants it or uses it, don't integrate that crap into the OS. I do not wish to pay Facebook a subsidy for my new phone. Make it a download for the people who want it, not loaded as standard.

So basically we can see who doesn't have any friends...

bob_c_b said,

So basically we can see who doesn't have any friends...

Number of friends on facebook is inversely proportional with number of friends in real life.
People with 1000s of facebook friends have no real life, and just as Zuckerberg had an idea /dream for belonging to a "virtual" private club with virtual friends so do these "Facebook people" long for this "Online acceptance" a place where they can brag about their daily life and a place where they can spam other people with insignificant moments of their lives.
It is their lack of social skills that makes facebook so popular... "Social networking site" ... huh..the irony...
Eventually/hopefully as human race evolves, this kind of garbage will seize to exist.

Euphoria said,

Number of friends on facebook is inversely proportional with number of friends in real life.
People with 1000s of facebook friends have no real life, and just as Zuckerberg had an idea /dream for belonging to a "virtual" private club with virtual friends so do these "Facebook people" long for this "Online acceptance" a place where they can brag about their daily life and a place where they can spam other people with insignificant moments of their lives.
It is their lack of social skills that makes facebook so popular... "Social networking site" ... huh..the irony...
Eventually/hopefully as human race evolves, this kind of garbage will seize to exist.

wouldnt say thats true...i use facebook to connect with friends when i leave from school and have no way of contacting them, facebook is by far the best place to catch up on what is happening (especially between 400 people)...lack of social skills? give me a break...your not always going to be around the people you know/care about, or the people that know you and care about you..so facebook takes that concept and brings it on the go, for when your on vacation, or when your doing homework, or when your grounded, or simply when your not with that specific person right at the moment and want to talk with them.....by your message i assume the only people that you know or care about is your family since you can always socialize with them.
NEOWIN IS A SOCIAL WEBSITE FOR NEWS...and you use it constantly. honestly...facebook is news about the people you care about..and neowin is news about tech/gadgets/software etc...and you havnt grasped that? **** head

pgp66 said,
When will all these idiots get over shoving Facebook into your everything, not everyone wants it or uses it, don't integrate that crap into the OS. I do not wish to pay Facebook a subsidy for my new phone. Make it a download for the people who want it, not loaded as standard.

...as every 1 else says, dont integrate your account, problem solved

auziez said,

i use facebook to connect with friends when i leave from school and have no way of contacting them, facebook is by far the best place to catch up on what is happening (especially between 400 people)..

PLease.... 400 friends? Are you freakin kidding me? Do you even know the meaning of the word friend? Trust me they do not want to know if you are currently in Star Bucks or if youa re in the bathroom taking a leak. They can survive 30 mintutes without knowing what your are doing at the moment...
auziez said,
your not always going to be around the people you know/care about, or the people that know you and care about you..so facebook takes that concept and brings it on the go, for when your on vacation, or when your doing homework, or when your grounded, or simply when your not with that specific person right at the moment and want to talk with them.....by your message i assume the only people that you know or care about is your family since you can always socialize with them.

You know you can use skype for messaging, talking or video conferencing.... Or you can just call that special person using a phone, something that was invented in the late 19th century. If that person is so special to you than they'll be glad to hear your voice...
auziez said,
NEOWIN IS A SOCIAL WEBSITE FOR NEWS...and you use it constantly. honestly...facebook is news about the people you care about..and neowin is news about tech/gadgets/software etc...and you havnt grasped that? **** head

No, I dont use Neowin constantly, but I jump on it now and then for few minutes, and mostly to exchange ideas or get some tech news, but not to share details of my personal life.
Have you grasped the idea and the meaning of the word "personal" life?

pgp66 said,

No, it's not enough that it is disabled rfirth, as Friszly says, it's a waste of space.

The same could be said of any feature that one doesn't use, that may be useful to others. For example, some people don't like ring tones and always have their phone on vibrate. To them, have the ability to use a custom ring tone (coming in the next update), or even having ringtones at all, could be seen as a useless feature that shouldn't be integrated because "it's a waste of space."

Facebook integration is a waste of space to you, to others it's a welcome feature. Get over yourself and your personal opinions.

JonathanMarston said,

The same could be said of any feature that one doesn't use, that may be useful to others. For example, some people don't like ring tones and always have their phone on vibrate. To them, have the ability to use a custom ring tone (coming in the next update), or even having ringtones at all, could be seen as a useless feature that shouldn't be integrated because "it's a waste of space."

Facebook integration is a waste of space to you, to others it's a welcome feature. Get over yourself and your personal opinions.

So you can't remove the ringtone files with file explorer? What a stupid comparison to make! The facebook app is built into the OS ROM, so it can't be removed. I have no issue with people using it, but make it a download, not a core app for god's sake. Why have the thing full with crap, any crap? Your the one who needs to get over himself.

pgp66 said,

So you can't remove the ringtone files with file explorer? What a stupid comparison to make!

Actually, there is no file explorer yet (but there could in a future update or thanks to the recent developments around unlocking), so no, you can't currently delete them without some sort of hack. Besides, the code that handles the Facebook integration is likely no more than a few kilobytes anyway, so I don't know what your problem is.

Sounds like you simply hate Facebook and argue against it's inclusion in the OS simply because you don't like it. I don't like Gmail, but you don't see me arguing against WP7's support for Gmail because I realize for others it's a useful feature. Many people like Facebook. Get over it.

auziez said,

wouldnt say thats true...i use facebook to connect with friends when i leave from school and have no way of contacting them, facebook is by far the best place to catch up on what is happening (especially between 400 people)...

If you really have 400 friends, real friends, you should seriously consider running for Capitol Hill.
Btw I am dead serious... not sarcastic at all.

Instead to waste time with FB why MS does not bring back for WP7 users the ability to back up SMS? We had it with WM 6.XXX and now is, among many other very important features, missing!

Or maybe we will discover that some MS study group revealed that SMS are not important too?

Fritzly said,
Instead to waste time with FB why MS does not bring back for WP7 users the ability to back up SMS? We had it with WM 6.XXX and now is, among many other very important features, missing!

Or maybe we will discover that some MS study group revealed that SMS are not important too?


Cause it doesn't matter?

Owen W said,

Cause it doesn't matter?

It would if the results were accurate: just check what they did with WHS......

Besides: did they removed the functionality based on supposed customer feedback? If so could you please be so kind to post a link?

Is this suppose to be a good news for Win Phone 7?
More this phone get integrated with Facebook, less I am interested to owning one.

Euphoria said,
Is this suppose to be a good news for Win Phone 7?
More this phone get integrated with Facebook, less I am interested to owning one.

Doesn't show up if you don't set up an FB account, should have zero impact for none-FB users. Personally I'm looking forward to it.

bob_c_b said,

Doesn't show up if you don't set up an FB account, should have zero impact for none-FB users. Personally I'm looking forward to it.

Exactly. Why do so few people realize this? Bizarre.

M_Lyons10 said,

Exactly. Why do so few people realize this? Bizarre.

its a tech website too...id expect some general public dude to say this but not this guy who wonders around forums

Nice find, but very misleading title. No proof of anything coming, just a list of allowed functions that may be defaults for any mobile device if you look hard enough. I'd like the features but title made it sound like something heading our way in an update.

blahism said,
Nice find, but very misleading title. No proof of anything coming, just a list of allowed functions that may be defaults for any mobile device if you look hard enough. I'd like the features but title made it sound like something heading our way in an update.

not to mention that this only applies to the 'facebook app', and not really the built-in integration. when they put android against wp7, apparently the facebook app didn't count towards 'integration' since it's from a 3rd party (even though it's included in the stock android)

blahism said,
Nice find, but very misleading title. No proof of anything coming, just a list of allowed functions that may be defaults for any mobile device if you look hard enough. I'd like the features but title made it sound like something heading our way in an update.

Why weren't they there when the platform launched?

Julius Caro said,

not to mention that this only applies to the 'facebook app', and not really the built-in integration. when they put android against wp7, apparently the facebook app didn't count towards 'integration' since it's from a 3rd party (even though it's included in the stock android)


Er... it also applies to the built in OS... WP7 doesn't have built in chat yet.

I wish they would implement places and chat for Windows Mobile 6.5 Facebook. The Facebook application had been broke for months and hasn't had a major update since last year. Finally on Thanksgiving eve they fixed it so it could refresh, but that is about it. No Places and No Chat.

JSYOUNG571 said,
I wish they would implement places and chat for Windows Mobile 6.5 Facebook. The Facebook application had been broke for months and hasn't had a major update since last year. Finally on Thanksgiving eve they fixed it so it could refresh, but that is about it. No Places and No Chat.

It's a dead platform, why would they invest in it?

This is great. I really can't wait to see what all these updates bring. I think Microsoft has a lot of plans for this OS going forward.

That's all well and good but why don't they build a Messenger app before they go and integrate Facebook chat because this Messenger by Miyowa app SUCKS.

mackenziepricee said,
That's all well and good but why don't they build a Messenger app before they go and integrate Facebook chat because this Messenger by Miyowa app SUCKS.

I think they will, but right now aren't they working on adding the new Lyncs support to WP7 first? That's the business class IM system. I remember reading something about that coming to WP7.

I think WP7 will at some point in the future tie into the live apps more, right now it doesn't, only through Zune but I expect tie-ins with Photo Galary, Messanger and maybe even Movie maker too.

It'd be cool if Photo Galary could connect to your phone when you plug it in to USB, and then edit pics that are on the phone and move new pic in and out etc. I half-expect that sorta integration between WP7 and the Live apps will come in 2011.

GP007 said,

I think they will, but right now aren't they working on adding the new Lyncs support to WP7 first? That's the business class IM system. I remember reading something about that coming to WP7.

I think WP7 will at some point in the future tie into the live apps more, right now it doesn't, only through Zune but I expect tie-ins with Photo Galary, Messanger and maybe even Movie maker too.

It'd be cool if Photo Galary could connect to your phone when you plug it in to USB, and then edit pics that are on the phone and move new pic in and out etc. I half-expect that sorta integration between WP7 and the Live apps will come in 2011.

Yeah I was really hoping for Movie Maker to be on the phone. Hopefully we don't have to wait till Live Wave 5 for that...

mackenziepricee said,

Yeah I was really hoping for Movie Maker to be on the phone. Hopefully we don't have to wait till Live Wave 5 for that...


The Live team are damn slow at doing anything

mackenziepricee said,
That's all well and good but why don't they build a Messenger app before they go and integrate Facebook chat because this Messenger by Miyowa app SUCKS.

Most of the Live Essential features are in process or planning of being on WP7. Some with more integration to the phone's 'hubs' and others with dedicated Apps for accessing Live features.

For example, don't be surprised to eventually see Messenger integration happen that is in the People Hub more directly and as easy as sending a text message.

I know that a lot of work is going on with all the Live 'cloud' features that extend beyond what is already available, like the basic Skydrive Photo access and OneNote Syncing.

(Part of how Messenger was updated for 2011 and integrates with other social services is part of the 'backend' of all this coming together so that is don't matter if they are a facebook person or a Messenger friend, your ability to chat with them is agnostic to the service they prefer or have available on their computer/device.)

That's pretty cool! Deeper integration should help to push sales of the platform even more, seeing as how they're already so tightly integrated.

I am quite worry about the integration. I don't use Facebook a lot because of the privacy issue, I don't want to expose every piece of personal information on Facebook/ social networks. I just wonder what would happen if there is a bug and one day publish all the data on my phone to the world (via Facebook)...

GraphiteCube said,
I am quite worry about the integration. I don't use Facebook a lot because of the privacy issue, I don't want to expose every piece of personal information on Facebook/ social networks. I just wonder what would happen if there is a bug and one day publish all the data on my phone to the world (via Facebook)...

Well, if you don't want to make use of those features in WP7, you certainly don't have to use it at all. But, I honestly wouldn't worry, as the only thing WP7 is designed to allow you to upload are pictures and status messages... It won't upload all sorts of personal data from your phone...

GraphiteCube said,
I am quite worry about the integration. I don't use Facebook a lot because of the privacy issue, I don't want to expose every piece of personal information on Facebook/ social networks. I just wonder what would happen if there is a bug and one day publish all the data on my phone to the world (via Facebook)...

Once you connect your Facebook with Windows Phone you realise how cool it is.

I mean, I go to call or text my friends and right on his/hers contact card/profile is shows his/hers latest status updates, gives me the option to write on his Facebook walls and shows me who he/she is in a relationship with. Then if we were really close I could pin the contact to my start screen with a live tile that showed the picture and name of my contact.

Another example is when I first turned on my phone. I unboxed it and put in a new sim with a new carrier on the way home in the car (passenger) . I turned it on and added my Windows Live ID and Facebook and my people hub was full of all my friends details. I didn't even need to swap contacts from one phone to another.

Just these little things make the Facebook integration worth while for me.

That saying, it is optional.

mackenziepricee said,

Then if we were really close I could pin the contact to my start screen with a live tile that showed the picture and name of my contact.

If you leave the phone for a bit without touching it, it flips over when pinned to show their latest status, too.

Owen W said,

If you leave the phone for a bit without touching it, it flips over when pinned to show their latest status, too.

Yeah that also, I forgot!

When I was in the store getting the phone I noticed how dead the start screen looked with just blue tiles, but once you get it customized a bit it really looks beautiful. The phone looks alive and in motion.

mackenziepricee said,

Yeah that also, I forgot!

When I was in the store getting the phone I noticed how dead the start screen looked with just blue tiles, but once you get it customized a bit it really looks beautiful. The phone looks alive and in motion.


Most people I've talked to have been against WP7 before actually seeing a device. once they actually use one, they fall in love.

Owen W said,

Most people I've talked to have been against WP7 before actually seeing a device. once they actually use one, they fall in love.

Lol, I'm the opposite. Already in love with it, but haven't yet decided which hardware.

jwil1 said,

Lol, I'm the opposite. Already in love with it, but haven't yet decided which hardware.


The HTC Trophy is a sexy sexy device.

jwil1 said,

Lol, I'm the opposite. Already in love with it, but haven't yet decided which hardware.

Owen W said,

The HTC Trophy is a sexy sexy device.

Yeah I picked up the trophy. I really wanted the HD7 or Dell Venue Pro but the Trophy is a really nice device.

jwil1 said,

Lol, I'm the opposite. Already in love with it, but haven't yet decided which hardware.

The Samsung Focus is a beauty!

norseman said,

The Samsung Focus is a beauty!

Yes it is. I'm REALLY hoping that phone comes to Verizon with Quad Band. If it does I'll buy that one in a heart beat. I just really need Quad Band...

I would feel a bit scared. My phone has a lot of sensitive data which i don't want sitting on Facebook servers knowing they might very well be there forever.

StandingInAlley said,
I would feel a bit scared. My phone has a lot of sensitive data which i don't want sitting on Facebook servers knowing they might very well be there forever.

WP7 only accesses FB, it doesn't use it to store your personal data, such as your phonebook, SMS history, IE history, etc. While the phone can upload pictures, and can update status and comment sections, it doesn't place phone information on FB itself.

I would expect the security model for these future features is setup to quell any privacy fears, but ultimately, we'll have to see. You would think that with the launch of a product like WP7, they want to make sure they plug any holes that come up BEFORE (if at all possible) they introduce new features, and, obviously, FB won't want to alienate any of its users either.

StandingInAlley said,
I would feel a bit scared. My phone has a lot of sensitive data which i don't want sitting on Facebook servers knowing they might very well be there forever.

calm down, its not that big of a deal...just dont use your facebook acount onn it then.