French Watchdog Takes EBay to Court

The French regulatory authority, called the Council of Sales, said Monday that eBay's French site should be held to the same standards as other auction houses in France -- which must acquire a special permit from authorities that includes guarantees of consumer protection.

In a statement, eBay's French branch, eBay.fr, said the suit was "totally unjust."

"eBay has invented a new way of buying and selling, which has been adopted by 10 million French people, and which is not at all the same as that of auction houses," it said. The Council of Sales, whose members are state-appointed, said it was not trying to crack down on online auctions, and that it encouraged them. But it said it had been studying eBay.fr carefully since 2003 and had compiled a long list of problems.

In one case, it said, a buyer who expected to purchase an 18th century painting actually received a piece of wood with a photocopy pasted onto it. Fakes are a big problem on eBay.fr, it said, especially with African or Chinese art. In other cases, sellers never send the object to the buyer, it said.

Last month, the Council of Sales took similar action against an online car auction site called Carsat.

News source: Yahoo! Finance

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cooldeals2go said,
http://www.hostitplanet.com/paypal_blocked...m_our_funds.htm

We are going to do the same.
PayPal eBay scams PayPal, Inc. blocked us from our funds.
Our PayPal little complaint Reported to the BBB, News, and to the states attorney, just for starters!

I love they recording!, PayPal just took $12,000.00 from us, here's our page!
cool deals 2 go

our little story.
On 11/29/07 after we listed 2 very successful products on eBay from time period 10/28/2007 as user cooldeals2go and generated over 24,000.00 in sales for a four week period, PayPal, Inc., restricted access to our funds (which we cannot transfer $11,999.69 USD in funds to our bank account) and had eBay close/suspend our account cooldeals2go.

we were not selling any items that are illegal and our products were downloadable from the Internet and did not break any copyright violations AND WHERE self-made.

we did notify PayPal, Inc., by phone to prior to 11/15/2007 to to let them know to expect an increase in sales so they would be provided with what we were selling, we also own www.hostitplanet.com and www.hostitplanet.com and reconfirmed them about our sales for website hosting, we specifically told them to document it!. Therefore we felt we were clear with notifying them, also the restriction has caused eBay to suspend our account which means loosing an estimated amount of $3,000.00 in sales per day and the inability to send products to our customer totaling around $2,500.00. We have contacted PayPal,Inc. 9 times in a 4 day period from the time they restricted us, and supplied all requested information which we can verify we sent. and then they pulled the no appeal crap.
we can prove via screen shot to the items we submitted we have also some disputes from October that PayPal, Inc., has neglected to deal with for over a month.
oops they finally did, but they has not started on Novembers!

Now if anyone has an invite for us to get some help that would be great!!, because we did nothing wrong with any policy. and PayPal requested a credit check without our permission!, we are looking also for information on starting a class action lawsuit on paypal/ebay/ and forcing users to use un FDIC paypal. thats just uncalled for!


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must acquire a special permit from authorities that includes guarantees of consumer protection.

I don't know why ppl are bashing the frenchs for this... for me there is nothing wrong in this statement. CONSUMER PROTECTION FTW

It's the internet, not a country. If they are gonna cry about permits, they have the right "not" to use ebay's services, meaning, they can just block ebay. I hate when the government tries to silence what is left of a so called free internet.

Caveat emptor.

Common sense and some caution go a long way. If it's really a problem, people wont use ebay or someone could start a new business that acts as an escrow agent. No need for government intervention.

Wait would't this technically mean that EVERYONE who uses eBay would need a license also? They are technically running the auction... when you go to an auction its the auctioneer running it... but with eBay you are the auctioneer they are just the delivery method basically...

zivan56 said,
When you list something at a real auction, did you ever need a license? I didn't, just signed it over to them...

But with ebay you are technically running the auction... you can end it, cancel bids, all the stuff you can not do if you turn an item over to an auctioneer... with eBay you have a lot more control

Yo France, your socialism is showing. I think the French people can handle these problems themselves. Government should not step in.

2xSilverKnight said,
you have no idea what your talking about, do you ?

I know exactly what I'm talking about and your response completely confirms that in fact you don't. You like the gov wiping your ass over mundane everyday things such as this? Of course you do.

In one case, it said, a buyer who expected to purchase an 18th century painting actually received a piece of wood with a photocopy pasted onto it. Fakes are a big problem on eBay.fr, it said, especially with African or Chinese art. In other cases, sellers never send the object to the buyer, it said.

This happens everywhere, not just la France.

eBay do seem to just ignore problems and moreover ignore the consumer. If you need a license to run an auction house, then make them get a license and adhere to the terms of it. They are not above the law, and just because they operate online it doesn't mean they can play the "We are a website so we are special" card.

Off topic: Dude in the pic - lookalike from the sector7 dude in Transformers!

this is a problem with ebay on all of there localized sites
not much can be done about this, people need to be more careful

eBay IS an auction site, no matter how they try to hide it. If French law requires a permit to operate, then they have to get one, end of story. I don't see how they (eBay) can win, personally.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,
Agreed. I mean, yes, it is an internet site, but it still has to apply to the law.

its france, money overpowers law... watch as they hire a lawer that will get them out of it no problem

n_K said,

its france, money overpowers law... watch as they hire a lawer that will get them out of it no problem

that's the US dude ... sorry you have no idea what your talking about. Sarkozy is indeed a problem but the french knows better.