Google the new Microsoft; Apple insists on being Apple

If you're old enough to have been around in the 80s, or have seen Pirates of Silicon Valley then you are familiar with the rise and fall of the original Apple dynasty.

The basic timeline is as follows: Apple releases awesome new product; people love said product and go nuts. Apple forces an integrated, closed system while Microsoft developed its own similar software and sold it to everyone and their grandmother. Developers say: "OMGZ, teh platform is so big yo" and join the obviously more lucrative, although arguably mediocre platform. Apple cries, and Steve Job is eventually forced out.

Today, Apple might have to break out the tissue once again. The company's highly successful iPlatform is the platform of choice for the latest wave of pocket computer/smartphones. The iDevice platform has so far been dominant in the market, not only in sales but also with the number of apps developed for the platform. Unfortunately for Apple, the Android market is set to hit 100,000 apps this month; with no signs of slowing down.

Apple's iPlatform, while groundbreaking and revolutionary, is still locked to only its devices. Hardware, software, and distribution are all controlled strictly by Apple. Conversely the Android platform offered by Google is not locked to any single device. HTC, Motorola and even Sony Ericsson all provide hardware that is capable of supporting Android. Furthermore, Google is offering the software to any manufacturer or developer that wants it, thus mimicking Microsoft's actions during the 80s. Apple seems to be oblivious to the impending threat of historical precedent, this time with Google set to put them out to pasture.

The market has changed over the past 30 odd years as well. Rather than earning royalties through a product license like Microsoft, Google is an advertising behemoth. By providing its platform at no cost, Google's advertising penetration is being spread at an unprecedented level. With Google Ads being served to each and every device, Google's revenue stream will continue to grow. Developers also get their share by incorporating these ads and thus the web advertising environment is now portable.

Apple is currently trying to ride the wave of a premium exclusive device, but even this can only last so long. As Android devices continue to narrow the gap quality/performance divide, Apple's high-margin/ superior-product policy will be continue to be undercut by similar and competitive Android devices. This is already quite visible in the PC world, where Apple is still considered a niche manufacturer and only holds a small slice of the entire hardware pie. 

Thankfully for Apple, Android still has a long haul on the road to ubiquity. Currently a fragmented OS based on a common core, Android will have to become more standardized across devices in order to present a common face to the industry. Standardized platform development, combined with open hardware/software/distribution policy is an almost exact replica of the method used to create the Windows monopoly. If Google can rectify its fragmentation, its growing marketshare will inevitably surpass Apple's. This time around however, Apple has sheer volume on its side. If Apple can continue to ship units at its current pace, solve the ongoing issues with its latest product, iPhone 4, and maintain its overall momentum, the market will support more than one single platform.

History repeats. The first time a tragedy, the second a farce: Apple still has a chance to identify its previous mis-steps and prevent a total --and possibly irrevocable-- crash this time around.

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Android, while a nice OS, is bases on Linux, and most of the application and tools used by Android are open source, such Webkit (for the browser).

So, Google indeed is using Android as a business model, Google is not creating a new IP, like Windows or OSX.

android is the future major platform for sure it'll probably take the crown from symbian eventually... apples going to be left in second place for same reasons their desktop/laptop counter parts are second place in PC market too.

One thing I notice about Google, they are not scared or shy in trying to intorduce new programs and products. I would not be surprised if Google starts releasing their own built computers with thier own OS next. Then they will start releasing software that you can purchase just like Microsoft. One thing about Google, anything is possible with them. That is how they have come so far. As far as wthe web browsers, you have to think to yourself, You are using Googles web browser on a OS that belongs to Microsoft. So of course it is going to not perform at it's best. Microsoft is not going to let you create something and it works better on their product then their own product would. I truly believe that Google is going to end up being Microsofts downfall. Microsoft has done nothing but shift their cockness and arrogance into 5th gear. They don't even listen to the Microsoft customers and even take us for granted. Google listens to what the customers want and are willing to try it. I have been a Microsoft fan for a while and still am, but even I am seeing the writing on the wall for Google being their downfall soon.

JSYOUNG571 said,
One thing I notice about Google, they are not scared or shy in trying to intorduce new programs and products. I would not be surprised if Google starts releasing their own built computers with thier own OS next. Then they will start releasing software that you can purchase just like Microsoft. One thing about Google, anything is possible with them. That is how they have come so far. As far as wthe web browsers, you have to think to yourself, You are using Googles web browser on a OS that belongs to Microsoft. So of course it is going to not perform at it's best. Microsoft is not going to let you create something and it works better on their product then their own product would. I truly believe that Google is going to end up being Microsofts downfall. Microsoft has done nothing but shift their cockness and arrogance into 5th gear. They don't even listen to the Microsoft customers and even take us for granted. Google listens to what the customers want and are willing to try it. I have been a Microsoft fan for a while and still am, but even I am seeing the writing on the wall for Google being their downfall soon.

What? Chrome performs better than pretty much any other Windows web browser, including IE.

Google cant become Microsoft! Apple will lead and others will follow. not market-share wise but they can keep innovate and push technology forward.

- 90% of all computers worldwide are powered by MS operating system. MS is not falling soon and they are not falling soon enough.

- MS gets their money form software and they spend it on software!, wasting a lot in bing and mobile devices i must say.

- Google Gets their money from Search and they spend it everywhere tying to copplete with everyone, this is a failure strategy since they will get lost and then they will realize that search, their cash cow, wont be as relevant any more.

- Apple does to want 100% computer or phone and mobile market share. They already make more profit than anyone else in this front, they simply don't care. They only care of delivering quality products that will sell well, they don't care if they don't sell to everyone. They could license mac OSX + iOS so that is can be installed on other phones/computers but that's what they want! They want full control of software and hardware in order to deliver what they do deliver, they don't want to loose this edge.

Google for me is simply trying to dominate other markets than search, nothing ground breaking.

Microsoft is simply too slow and narrow minded to respond to emerging computer market needs in order to innovate and push technology forward.

Apple is the single technology company today that can innovate and push technology forward, their closed software/hardware model will nto give them 90% market share of what they get into but they will get there first, they will leed and other will follow!

my 2 cents

parisp said,
Google cant become Microsoft! Apple will lead and others will follow. not market-share wise but they can keep innovate and push technology forward.

- 90% of all computers worldwide are powered by MS operating system. MS is not falling soon and they are not falling soon enough.

- MS gets their money form software and they spend it on software!, wasting a lot in bing and mobile devices i must say.

- Google Gets their money from Search and they spend it everywhere tying to copplete with everyone, this is a failure strategy since they will get lost and then they will realize that search, their cash cow, wont be as relevant any more.

- Apple does to want 100% computer or phone and mobile market share. They already make more profit than anyone else in this front, they simply don't care. They only care of delivering quality products that will sell well, they don't care if they don't sell to everyone. They could license mac OSX + iOS so that is can be installed on other phones/computers but that's what they want! They want full control of software and hardware in order to deliver what they do deliver, they don't want to loose this edge.

Google for me is simply trying to dominate other markets than search, nothing ground breaking.

Microsoft is simply too slow and narrow minded to respond to emerging computer market needs in order to innovate and push technology forward.

Apple is the single technology company today that can innovate and push technology forward, their closed software/hardware model will nto give them 90% market share of what they get into but they will get there first, they will leed and other will follow!

my 2 cents

Whoa... Really? Are you even sane?

Apple innovates? Since when?

Was it the GUI they 'innovatively' ripped off of Xerox?
Was it OS X that ripped off the XNU(BSD/MACH) UNIX kernel?
Was it OS X that used Adobe display technology for the GUI?
Was it OS X/iOS Cocoa Framework that was ripped off of OpenStep?
Was it the iPod that copied Creative/Others MP3 players that had been around 5 years prior?
Was it the multi-touch interface on the iPhone that was a direct rip off of a TED demonstration, so much so that it even includes some of the 'impromptu' concepts the team introducing the concepts had made up a few days before TED? (Google the freaking Video)

Where is all this Apple innovation beyond their clever advertising to make idiots think they 'innovated' anything or were the 'first even' at anything? I bet you also think they made the first 64bit computer, even though they still don't ship any non-server Macs with a 64bit OS kernel?

Apple hasn't 'CREATED/INNOVATED' anything since Woz was slapping together PCs and Jobs was selling them as 'magical devices'.


And to add on to your igornant rant you claim Microsoft is 'too slow and narrow minded'? Really?

Do you even have a clue of what Microsoft does besides Office and Windows?

If you look at the just the 'technology' they 'invented' in the last 10-12 years it is staggering, especially when a lot of this technology is sitting in EVERY freaking Mac sold today.

Microsoft works with the design of everything from specialized hardware to even CPUs and GPUs.

If you look at the GPU technology from the late 1990s, the PS and VS designs of the Geforce4ti (that was in the XBox) was designed by MS Engineers. These GPU technologies shaped the Video card and gaming world up until the introduction of Unified GPU architectures, which again, were a Microsoft design for the XBox 360 and again is what all GPU technology today is based on, including the GPU/Video Cards in every Mac.

And this doesn't even touch on the software innovations that appear in products or work from Microsoft R&D that is literally given away to the world.

Take a simple concept: Select and Modify. This concept did not exist before the MS Word team designed it, and now it is a part of every OS an Application UI in the world.

How about one that Apple ripped off? Look up the iOS 4's multi-tasking system, and you will find it is a cookie cutter version of the multi-tasking designs Microsoft was talking about for Windows Mobile a couple of years ago, and what will be in WinPhone7.

So your 2 cents is worth about .0001

If it weren't for Microsoft's web browser innovations (yes, I said web browser), we wouldn't have Ajax, the technology that makes Google Maps, Gmail, and Google Docs even possible. What would Web 2.0 look like without Microsoft's XMLHttpRequest or iframe? Would there even be a Web 2.0?

Interesting...but Apple has cemented themselves in to he lives of people who want whats cool looking and most popular. You will never get rid of these people. A friends nephew told me he wants an iPad. I asked why. His response was, its cool. Sadly there are lots of people who care about how a product looks, than what it can do.

Die hard Apple fans are loyal to the core which should be evident with all the iPhone 4s they have sold. Despite all the problems.

I remember when growing up in the 80's and 90's me and my fellow nerdy friends always referred to Macintosh as Mac-in-trash.

There was this sentiment that "real men use DOS" and GUIs hurt productivity more than they helped productivity (due to how painfully slow they were).

All hail Google. Haha. We all saw this coming, how can you say you didn't? Apple is this closed-source evil company, while Google is open-sourced and is viewed as more "good" than "evil" in the average household. Only some of the tech community actually thinks Google is "out to get them" and their personal information... lol. Take off the tin foil hats kids!

Well, seems like Apple and iAds are even worse for your privacy. Google, Apple, Microsoft, they're all in the ad business now. I think despite that Google's revenue is 100% ads, they're less evil than Apple. Not sure about how Microsoft handles private information, but I don't think they're evil either. Apple is evil, I'm sure about that.

drphysx said,
Well, seems like Apple and iAds are even worse for your privacy. Google, Apple, Microsoft, they're all in the ad business now. I think despite that Google's revenue is 100% ads, they're less evil than Apple. Not sure about how Microsoft handles private information, but I don't think they're evil either. Apple is evil, I'm sure about that.
I wouldn't say Apple is evil really... they have a highly opinionated CEO, but as a company they're not bad. And whatever you may think about the iPad, it's a really nice web browsing machine.

And it's a good thing techies watch out for Google's privacy mishaps. They keep them in check... if they weren't there it would probably be worse.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. They are evil. The way they manipulate the media, the censorship, the way they handle complaints, their incredible arrogance - and now the way they deal with your private information.

And whoever pays 500-900 bucks for a "web browsing machine" (that can't even display the whole web) is really stupid in my opinion. Sorry, but I can't find any other words.
The same amount of money bought me a real Tablet PC with multitouch and digitizer, an OS that doesn't suck, lets me surf the WHOLE web and take notes and do work about a hundred times faster.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against "web browsing machine" slate devices - as long as the can actually handle the web and don't cost as much as a real PC.

I respectfully disagree, my opinion is that Microsoft its doing quite fine, what is really happening is that they are no longer the lonely king of the hill, now Apple its a serious contender to them, and Google its catching up with those two, who will will? well actually only stockholders of those companies; at the end we end up with better products.....remember the time when you only had one not so good OS, cassetes and cd players and crappy search engines, well though none of them its perfect I love what we have now (win7, iPad, android phones and youtube), you have more choices, some like it windows some like it apple and most of us are just thrilled to see what's cooking in google labs.

The article wasn't about Microsoft at all, it was only comparing what Google is doing now with Android to what Microsoft did with Windows in the 80s.

Meconio said,
I respectfully disagree, my opinion is that Microsoft its doing quite fine, what is really happening is that they are no longer the lonely king of the hill, now Apple its a serious contender to them, and Google its catching up with those two, who will will? well actually only stockholders of those companies; at the end we end up with better products.....remember the time when you only had one not so good OS, cassetes and cd players and crappy search engines, well though none of them its perfect I love what we have now (win7, iPad, android phones and youtube), you have more choices, some like it windows some like it apple and most of us are just thrilled to see what's cooking in google labs.

Well said.

Meconio said,
I respectfully disagree, my opinion is that Microsoft its doing quite fine, what is really happening is that they are no longer the lonely king of the hill, now Apple its a serious contender to them, and Google its catching up with those two, who will will? well actually only stockholders of those companies; at the end we end up with better products.....remember the time when you only had one not so good OS, cassetes and cd players and crappy search engines, well though none of them its perfect I love what we have now (win7, iPad, android phones and youtube), you have more choices, some like it windows some like it apple and most of us are just thrilled to see what's cooking in google labs.

well they are still very much the king of the hill when it comes to PCs

they still have 91 percent of market share, yep 91 percent.

Apple don't even have a foothold there with a negligible 5 percent, people frequently forget this because of the hype surrounding the iphone.

it's not some who like it windows, it's nearly everyone.

phones are a different matter, but it's funny how many people automatically apply their success selling iphones to macOS

3lixir said,

well they are still very much the king of the hill when it comes to PCs

That wont last forever. And when it finally does fall, you can bet the rest of their products will follow it down the toilet, because we know they all rely on the windows monopoly.

3lixir said,
they still have 91 percent of market share, yep 91 percent.

Look at IE. It was at 90+ percent, and where is it today? 50-60% maybe? Windows mobile used to have a big chunk of the smartphone market, and where are they now? In an ever increasing decline, fading into obscurity. So you see, just because they have a strong position now in the desktop does not guarantee that in the future it will be the same, for ChromeOS is on the horizon.

3lixir said,

Apple don't even have a foothold there with a negligible 5 percent, people frequently forget this because of the hype surrounding the iphone.

Apple's Mac computers are a 10 billion dollar a year business. And you have to remember that their profit margins are significantly higher per sale than microsoft's.

3lixir said,
it's not some who like it windows, it's nearly everyone.

Now that is disingenuous. Most people don't have a choice these days, and the major PC builders are mostly to fault. Go into most computer stores, or order from hp, dell, etc, and the only OS available is windows, That's not competition that's a dictatorship, and the consumer loses out, because he pays higher premiums (the microsoft tax) for the privilege of running windows. A disgrace really, and one the major system builders have locked themselves into. Although attitudes are slowly changing now, with the emergence of netbooks, Android, ChromeOS. I now hope to see true competition in the desktop OS market in the near future,

3lixir said,

phones are a different matter, but it's funny how many people automatically apply their success selling iphones to macOS

Some of their idevice success has translated into Mac sales. And I wish every success to them. More competition in the desktop OS arena is what everyone needs. It's far too stagnant at the moment.

LoveThePenguin said,

That wont last forever. And when it finally does fall, you can bet the rest of their products will follow it down the toilet, because we know they all rely on the windows monopoly.

But Microsoft is better positioned to maintain its dominance in PCs than Google is positioned in the search business. And Apple's only area of dominance is in PMPs, and those will go the way of the dodo bird now that smartphones do everything a PMP can.

LoveThePenguin said,

Look at IE. It was at 90+ percent, and where is it today? 50-60% maybe? Windows mobile used to have a big chunk of the smartphone market, and where are they now? In an ever increasing decline, fading into obscurity. So you see, just because they have a strong position now in the desktop does not guarantee that in the future it will be the same, for ChromeOS is on the horizon.

IE's market share has declined to around 60% and has recently upticked. With IE9 coming out, the numbers will only get better.

LoveThePenguin said,

Apple's Mac computers are a 10 billion dollar a year business. And you have to remember that their profit margins are significantly higher per sale than microsoft's.

This is a moronic statement. Are you comparing Apple's margins to those of PC hardware makers or to Microsoft's margins? You really think Apple's margins higher than Microsoft's? If you think so, you're as clueless a freetard as you seem.

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LoveThePenguin said,

Now that is disingenuous. Most people don't have a choice these days, and the major PC builders are mostly to fault. Go into most computer stores, or order from hp, dell, etc, and the only OS available is windows, That's not competition that's a dictatorship, and the consumer loses out, because he pays higher premiums (the microsoft tax) for the privilege of running windows. A disgrace really, and one the major system builders have locked themselves into. Although attitudes are slowly changing now, with the emergence of netbooks, Android, ChromeOS. I now hope to see true competition in the desktop OS market in the near future,

No competition, eh? You're right. Apple doesn't really count as competition. Certainly, the choice is there. Every BestBuy has an Apple section. Lots of people looking at the shiny offerings, but not a lot of buying.

LoveThePenguin said,

That wont last forever. And when it finally does fall, you can bet the rest of their products will follow it down the toilet, because we know they all rely on the windows monopoly.

Look at IE. It was at 90+ percent, and where is it today? 50-60% maybe? Windows mobile used to have a big chunk of the smartphone market, and where are they now? In an ever increasing decline, fading into obscurity. So you see, just because they have a strong position now in the desktop does not guarantee that in the future it will be the same, for ChromeOS is on the horizon.

True. Netscape used to have the market and then Internet Explorer took it all. Now-a-days it's a four-way match between Safari, Chrome, Firefox, and IE.

And also, who actually has a Windows Mobile phone now? Everyone I know who has a smart phone either has an Android or an iPhone. And almost no one I know even knows that Windows Mobile exists.

And its also true that if Windows falls, so will everything else. Some of Microsoft's biggest cash cows, after Windows, are Office and the plethora of developer software, as well as Windows Server and related stuff. These all depend on Windows, so if Windows falls, down will some of Microsoft's other biggest profits fall.


Apple's Mac computers are a 10 billion dollar a year business. And you have to remember that their profit margins are significantly higher per sale than microsoft's.

Meh, no comment...


Now that is disingenuous. Most people don't have a choice these days, and the major PC builders are mostly to fault. Go into most computer stores, or order from hp, dell, etc, and the only OS available is windows, That's not competition that's a dictatorship, and the consumer loses out, because he pays higher premiums (the microsoft tax) for the privilege of running windows. A disgrace really, and one the major system builders have locked themselves into. Although attitudes are slowly changing now, with the emergence of netbooks, Android, ChromeOS. I now hope to see true competition in the desktop OS market in the near future,

Yes, I have only seen two computers in real life that are running Linux, both cases Linux was installed by the user, not by the manufacturer. Windows is everywhere in the PC market. Even a notable chunk of Mac users run Windows through a virtual machine. Sure, Best Buy has a Apple section that sells Mac OS computers, but other than this clearly marked-off section, Windows is everywhere on the PC.

Chrome OS is a new competitor to Windows based upon, in my opinion, a good idea although I still have no clue how it would all work out. At any rate, Chrome OS is based for the netbooks, the cheap under-$300 things that (in my opinion) have the graphics and power of a high-end smartphone. Sure, the netbook is something that can handle the most basic tasks, but anything beyond that slows the netbook to a halt. Most users, of course, can't afford to have that, so the netbook is not the majority of the PC market. Bigger, more powerfuls laptops are. And almost all of these laptops run Windows and a new competitor in the netbook market won't change that.


Some of their idevice success has translated into Mac sales. And I wish every success to them. More competition in the desktop OS arena is what everyone needs. It's far too stagnant at the moment.

I wholeheartedly agree. Right now, Windows is simply competing with older versions of itself. Sure, you've got a (some?) Linux distribution that is full-baked, and Mac OS is a fine OS as well, but Linux is barely existent, and Mac OS is expensive and overall just not as widespread as Windows and its 91% usage share. However, only 14% percent of all computers are running Windows 7, leaving 77% of Windows users not using Windows 7. That is a huge amount and Microsoft now needs to compete with that. Pulling the plug on XP will help but in the end, its still all Windows.

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About the article itself, I'd say that I'm not surprised that Google is now in there. Now-a-days, I don't see it as Apple and Microsoft competing, but Apple, Microsoft, and Google all competing each other. And now with Android and iOS butting heads, Microsoft really needs to prove itself to get anywhere in the mobile market when Windows Phone 7 comes out.

LoveThePenguin said,

That wont last forever. And when it finally does fall, you can bet the rest of their products will follow it down the toilet, because we know they all rely on the windows monopoly.


Look at IE. It was at 90+ percent, and where is it today? 50-60% maybe? Windows mobile used to have a big chunk of the smartphone market, and where are they now? In an ever increasing decline, fading into obscurity. So you see, just because they have a strong position now in the desktop does not guarantee that in the future it will be the same, for ChromeOS is on the horizon.


Apple's Mac computers are a 10 billion dollar a year business. And you have to remember that their profit margins are significantly higher per sale than microsoft's.


Now that is disingenuous. Most people don't have a choice these days, and the major PC builders are mostly to fault. Go into most computer stores, or order from hp, dell, etc, and the only OS available is windows, That's not competition that's a dictatorship, and the consumer loses out, because he pays higher premiums (the microsoft tax) for the privilege of running windows. A disgrace really, and one the major system builders have locked themselves into. Although attitudes are slowly changing now, with the emergence of netbooks, Android, ChromeOS. I now hope to see true competition in the desktop OS market in the near future,


Some of their idevice success has translated into Mac sales. And I wish every success to them. More competition in the desktop OS arena is what everyone needs. It's far too stagnant at the moment.

what you're saying is nothing lasts forever, that doesn't negate the position they are in now, and to say apple compete with them in that area as far as market share goes is simply not true.

Yet again people are comparing apples with oranges, they haven't neglected their OS in the same way they let IE slip so that's not a fair comparison either

The fact that manufacturers are installing windows on their PCs is a reason for success not an excuse and it doesn't make the facts any less clear.

I find it incredible you say most people don't have a choice, there is a clear choice, I simply don't accept that people who buy windows PCs are somehow oblivious to Macs, Apple have spent a considerable amount of money on marketing which would suggest otherwise.

Edited by 3lixir, Jul 14 2010, 9:30am :

LoveThePenguin said,

That wont last forever. And when it finally does fall, you can bet the rest of their products will follow it down the toilet, because we know they all rely on the windows monopoly.

AHAHAHAH people used to say this 10 years ago and what... no change

Yes, it definitely is going to happen again.

Of course, some things are different this time around:
- Apple is in a better position, with a much greater developer community
- There are more competitors in the market, namely Google, Apple, Microsoft, Symbian, RIM and maybe even HP

With this in mind, I don't see Apple dropping to 3% market share and Google climbing all the way up to 95%, like last time.

Nevertheless, history is repeating itself. My guess is that Google can win a comfortable 50-60% of the market, while Apple will drop to less than 15%. The rest will go to Microsoft, Symbian and others.

However, the question is whether Apple even wants to have a huge market share. Well, they certainly do, but maybe it's more important to them to make money and to drive innovation.

By selling hardware and software together, in big markets like PCs and smartphones, it is impossible to retain a big share of the market.

However, it is not impossible to make boatloads of money. And it is not impossible to drive innovation. Apple has done that in the PC market (though in recent times almost all innovation has come from Microsoft while OS X has remained the same for years).

One problem with this is of course that they'll lose developers as they move on to platforms with more users. With more competitors in the market this time, it won't be as bad as after the Windows/Mac OS war, but still developers will focus on platforms with a higher market share.

Anyway... from a market share perspective, yes, Apple is going to lose again. History repeats itself. They'll still make boatloads of money by selling hardware and as a niche player, they'll remain the media's darling and retain that loyal fan base - both helping them make money and remain relevant in the sense that people will talk about them and they can force others to innovate.

But the battle for market dominance is already lost. And this is good for consumers, as they are able to choose more open, uncensored and thus more consumer-friendly products.

What I'm very interested in is what Microsoft will be able to achieve, taking kind of a middleway approach... We'll see...

(and of course, with Android clearly being a better product in every aspect, I'm happy that Android phones are already outselling the iPhone by a huge margin, with more than 160,000 Android phones sold per day, or about 15 million per quarter, compared to a maximum of 9 million iPhones sold per quarter)

I agree. Developers are going to determine the outcome of this war as well. This makes Apple's stubborn prohibition of cross platform developing tools even more troublesome, because it scares developers away even more. What Android is still failing to achieve is the corporate market. It seems as if its linux pedigree carries the same resistance to fully integrate with the corporate environment. A few years back people would not buy smartphones for personal use; they were given smartphones by the companies they work for. A smartphone that really integrates into the corporation and also is attractive for individual use can have the potential to damage Android's market share, especially since hardware is basically the same. We've seen this before with netbooks. Windows Phone 7 has a great chance of succeeding, with is corporate appeal and developer's favorite tools that allow almost the same code to be compiled for Windows, Windows Phone, and Xbox.

I think we're all forgetting that WP7 is most likely going to add some fuel to the fire. I think WP7 devices are going to be the premium choice compared to android. WP7 doesn't have as many apps but the quality of the apps i've seen so far are amazing.

My guess is that, within a few years, Google will hold about 50-60% of the market and Microsoft will reach the second place.
Symbian will lose at least half of their current market share and Apple will drop to less than 15%, maybe even less than 10%.

History repeating itself.

This time there are more competitors in the market and Apple is in a slightly better position, but Google and Microsoft will be the winners in the marketshare battle.
(I'm actually not sure about Microsoft, we'll have to wait and see, but at least their peoduct looks quite good)

thealexweb said,
Awesome film

Amusing, yes. (Ballmer being super witty lol)

Historically accurate, not really. I sure hopebtheir depiction of Jobs was way off - that guy came off as a Douche with a capital D.

rm20010 said,

Amusing, yes. (Ballmer being super witty lol)

Historically accurate, not really. I sure hopebtheir depiction of Jobs was way off - that guy came off as a Douche with a capital D.


"hopebtheir" i bet you posted from your iphone...happens to me all the time, god I wish I had an android phone!

rm20010 said,

Amusing, yes. (Ballmer being super witty lol)

Historically accurate, not really. I sure hopebtheir depiction of Jobs was way off - that guy came off as a Douche with a capital D.

In terms of steve's arrogance it's pretty much accurate.

rm20010 said,

Amusing, yes. (Ballmer being super witty lol)

Historically accurate, not really. I sure hopebtheir depiction of Jobs was way off - that guy came off as a Douche with a capital D.

And he doesn't come off as that today? lol

rm20010 said,

Amusing, yes. (Ballmer being super witty lol)

Historically accurate, not really. I sure hopebtheir depiction of Jobs was way off - that guy came off as a Douche with a capital D.

Great Movie, I have it on my iPod. Wozniak saw the movie and said it was 90% historically accurate as far as what happen. But he stated the things didn't happen in the same manner and that many things were out of order.

His comment is on Youtube.

Google is the new Microsoft? I'm assuming this in a bad way. Seeing a line like Apple is the new Microsoft wouldn't raise an eyebrow. Because the Govt is already looking at them for being a monopoly. Now why is Google being looked in the same way? They aren't there yet.

PatrynXX said,
Google is the new Microsoft? I'm assuming this in a bad way. Seeing a line like Apple is the new Microsoft wouldn't raise an eyebrow. Because the Govt is already looking at them for being a monopoly. Now why is Google being looked in the same way? They aren't there yet.

Try reading the article. He's really comparing Andriod to Windows and iOS to Mac OS. One of the main reasons Windows is so popular today is because it was licensed out to manufacturers and Mac was a closed platform) - essentially the same thing Android is doing.

PatrynXX said,
Google is the new Microsoft? I'm assuming this in a bad way. Seeing a line like Apple is the new Microsoft wouldn't raise an eyebrow. Because the Govt is already looking at them for being a monopoly. Now why is Google being looked in the same way? They aren't there yet.

RTFA.

DomZ said,

Try reading the article. He's really comparing Andriod to Windows and iOS to Mac OS. One of the main reasons Windows is so popular today is because it was licensed out to manufacturers and Mac was a closed platform) - essentially the same thing Android is doing.

Except in Google's case, this is a good thing. The dominant OS will be open source this time around if this continues.

Google the new microsoft... Since when did Google outbeat Microsoft. Yes they might have the best search engine. But Chrome OS I see as no competition to any OS apart from Linux.

I still see it as Microsoft and Google vs Apple

TechDudeGeorge said,
Google the new microsoft... Since when did Google outbeat Microsoft. Yes they might have the best search engine. But Chrome OS I see as no competition to any OS apart from Linux.

I still see it as Microsoft and Google vs Apple


Every one is against apple these days... God i love this world

TechDudeGeorge said,
Google the new microsoft... Since when did Google outbeat Microsoft. Yes they might have the best search engine. But Chrome OS I see as no competition to any OS apart from Linux.

I still see it as Microsoft and Google vs Apple

They don't mean it literately, I think what the author meant was that Google is just repeating what MS did in the past.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Google the new microsoft... Since when did Google outbeat Microsoft. Yes they might have the best search engine. But Chrome OS I see as no competition to any OS apart from Linux.

I still see it as Microsoft and Google vs Apple


Say what?