Google wants you to enter your credit card as part of Gmail signup?

 

Google is on a mission to embed all of its products within its other products, which we have seen with the implementation of Google+ on its homepage. This type of cross selling is an easy way to promote your own products for (nearly) free to individuals who already use your services.

What Google is now doing, or at least beta testing, is the creation of a Google Wallet account when setting up a new email address, via Robert Matei.

This new addition, which is prompted in the setup phase of an email account, makes it seem as if the Google email account is not free. We understand that Google wants to create as many Google Wallet accounts as possible but the mix and match of email to credit card seems like a strange marriage.

Time will tell if this feature actually gets included in the basic email setup but as Google continues to blend its products such as putting Google+ on its iconic homepage, we must wonder if it really is your first thought to also hand over your credit card number too?

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Neowin has clearly demonstrated that Google is an evil company and part of the NWO.

We must all join together to put a stop to these conspiracies, before the Reptilians rise up!

Keep posting bologna about Microsoft's enemies NeoWIN. All you're doing is making people hate Microsoft even more than they already do. =)

First was mandatory phone number.
Then almost mandatory (it'll be, not doubt) credit card.

What's next? Fingerprints? Photo? Medical records? Automatic forwarding of all inbound and outbound emails to the NSA for approval?

Following the events around privacy violations by Google and how much personal info google collects, are we correct to assume that Google managed to hire a lot of hackers as part of their team?

Riva said,
Following the events around privacy violations by Google and how much personal info google collects, are we correct to assume that Google managed to hire a lot of hackers as part of their team?

Or maybe it's just that the PR campaign MS announced on February 1st to use privacy concerns about Google to promote their own services is at full throttle.

Go figure.

The only single source for this FPN is a tweet from a random guy?

Google integrating Wallet as they've done with other services is plausible, but really, a tweet?
Maybe it's just me, but this looks like BPN material.

Gaara sama said,
Good Photoshop . .FAKE

You dont have to be very good with photoshop to mimic googles archaic UI concept

ZOMG! Google's latest attempt to take over my life!

Didn't you know? Google was founded by aliens who are slowly, but surely, trying to take over the world by replacing each and one of us!!!

AAHHHH!!!!

I generally don't mind the way google integrates stuff. The reason I only use chrome is the gmail integeration and I really like it. I also like not creating a new username and password for every idiotic service and app that forces me to have a username....

This though... I am not so sure. I think it would be better if I had the option but it was tucked nicely in a corner rather than in my face.

Why worry what Google does? Texas Representative Lamar Smith is attempting to shut down the internet in his own way.

jdegree said,
Why worry what Google does? Texas Representative Lamar Smith is attempting to shut down the internet in his own way.

you think he hates google?

Well I'm certainly not giving Google my credit card number. A bad idea by them and I can see them wanting to make it mandatory to sign up for their services, email etc .. just like they did with the phone number "verification" for emails. Google wants to know too much.

Disgusting company !
They think ppl are stupid, actually they're right most of them are stupid ! so let them be ! when Microsoft introduced Bing they knew all these about Google and wanted to save ppl from that thief company! now its up to ppl to use their brain or find themselves in the trap !

Makes Gmail all that much worse than it already is, and it's NOT that good to begin with!

Disliking Google more and more everyday, but it's not as if I liked them to begin with!!

WinA said,
I'm not sure why i even visit this site. It's full of crap news!

dont let the door hit your ass on the way out then. there is plenty of other tech news sits for you to sign up to.

WinA said,
I'm not sure why i even visit this site. It's full of crap news!

I'm not sure why I even read the comments. It's full of crap Fandroid comments.

It's time to ditch Gmail and switch. Honestly I'd recommend Hotmail for someone looking for a free solution.

Hotmail lets you host mail on your own domain with unlimited user accounts, for free. Whereas the free version of Google Apps only lets you have 10 users on your domain. If you use Outlook and Hotmail, with the Connector plugin it's almost like using Exchange, unlike clunky Gmail IMAP and their calendar sync tool. And personally I think Hotmail + Skydrive + Office Web Apps make for a better web based solution than what free Google Apps offers, especially if you also use Office 2010. But that's just my opinion. Also, no Gmail Man.

otoh then you'd have to use the battery killing Hotmail app on your phone.

There is nothing wrong with your browser. Do not attempt to adjust the page. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it bigger, we will bring up the fonts. If we wish to make it smaller, we will re size the fonts to a micron. We will control the internets. We will control the gateways. We can control your online banking, We can charge the fees to a penny or to a million dollars or for Free. For eternity we will control all that you see and do and hear on the internets. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your internet device. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner cloud to

I know there is Not now button but anyway, kiss my a** Google! I had to recetly create a Google acc and the amout of information they wanted to know about me was ubelievable!

All these people with their tin foil hats on... they must have them on too tight, losing oxygen to their brains. Let it go.

If they offer an option to skip, then there should not be so much hate towards them, and there is that option! Jesus christ! I'm almost completely done with Neowin, so much hate towards Google, and so much love for Apple now-a-days... boo. I want the old Neowin back that was really good, a decent combination of opinion and news being reported. It was never one-sided, now it seems like it.

I think its a perfectly legitimate part of the process. a Google Wallet account is very handy, especially for those on Android.

I'm sure the vast majority of haters wouldn't even be signing up to Gmail and those that do will have noticed the NOT NOW button. Its fairly obvious. Hardly news this

HardyRexion said,
I think its a perfectly legitimate part of the process. a Google Wallet account is very handy, especially for those on Android.

I'm sure the vast majority of haters wouldn't even be signing up to Gmail and those that do will have noticed the NOT NOW button. Its fairly obvious. Hardly news this

If it was 'limited' only to Google Market and Google products... However it is NOT.

Give you the OPTION to enter CC info to signup for Google Wallet but you DO NOT have to enter CC info to signup for GMAIL. Same options you would see if you wanted to signup so nothing to see here.

Ummm...Google...after everything with the whole Safari/IE privacy thing (whether it was actually your fault or not is irrelevant)...this was probably NOT the best course of action

Personally I'm getting tired of all the extra integration from not just Google but Ymail, Hotmail, Facebook and Twitter. No you don't need my CC to sign up for a free account. No you don't need my cell number for verification if I get locked out. No you don't need a 2nd or third email account that you then tie to everything else. No I don't want all my accounts linked so that every-time I post something somewhere else on the web it gets added to everything else....

You're missing the most obvious part: hack 1 account, you've hacked ALL of your accounts. The classic domino effect... and don't get me started on the EASIEST way to hacking into an Android phone. You only need the device and its telephone number... you don't even need the password! Thanks to how account recovery systems work, your life can be ruined by simply forgetting your Android phone at a bar or a cab or wherever else.

Richeemxx said,
Personally I'm getting tired of all the extra integration from not just Google but Ymail, Hotmail, Facebook and Twitter. No you don't need my CC to sign up for a free account. No you don't need my cell number for verification if I get locked out. No you don't need a 2nd or third email account that you then tie to everything else. No I don't want all my accounts linked so that every-time I post something somewhere else on the web it gets added to everything else....

Don't unify anything that doesn't use security boundaries.

Have a 'main' LiveID for example, that you link Facebook and Twitter, but use different passwords for the Facebook and Twitter sites.

So if someone figures out your LiveID password, they can only 'read' your Facebook and Twitter, not actually login to the sites.

As for the 'cell phone' and TrustedPC, and secondary email options for LiveID. Microsoft MUST offer these, because they are machine readable only queues, and if you forget your password, at best a machine queue to send a reset password can be issued, and if you don't have another verification process, you will lose everything in the account, or wait 60 days for a machine queue to offer a non-confirmation reset of the password.

Microsoft just can't access your LiveID account and anything encrypted using it, so these backup mechanisms are essential, or you will find yourself locked out of your hotmail, skydrive, xbox, zune, etc.

Microsoft is serious about security, even preventing themselves from reading or accessing your information, this is why there are a number of 'secure' options for your own fail-safe in case you forget a password.

Also in the LiveID associated with Facebook example, it is a secure boundary, and a one-way relationship, as LiveID can only read Facebook, and Facebook can only see your email address from LiveID, which it already has. There is no way to hijack either account, even if they are linked, and Facebook gets nothing from LiveID.

Think of LiveID as the 'secure' repository of you, as nothing gets to see what is in there, not even Microsoft themselves, only their time locked machine only queues.

(When you see people complain they have to wait 30 days or 60 days to get access to a LiveID/Hotmail that they forgot their password, this is why.)

Yes totally. Let's stop online purchases all together. Where is the NSA and the revised SOPA. Get that **** over here nao!

Idiots. Your credit card information is no safer with Google than it is with Amazon or NewEgg. Welcome to the revised internet.

Not to mention, that if you have all your eggs in one basket (Eggs = money) then you deserve to have it stolen. Think.

Isn't that why federal law limits your liability to $50. And most credit card companies offer $0 liability.

Honestly, do people have nothing better to worry about?

VoX said,
Yes totally. Let's stop online purchases all together. Where is the NSA and the revised SOPA. Get that **** over here nao!

Idiots. Your credit card information is no safer with Google than it is with Amazon or NewEgg. Welcome to the revised internet.

Not to mention, that if you have all your eggs in one basket (Eggs = money) then you deserve to have it stolen. Think.

Just because you set up a Google Wallet/Paypal/whatever account doesn't mean that you have to actually provide a credit or debit card, you can use one of those virtual cards and transfer to it only the money you are about to expend.

VoX said,
Yes totally. Let's stop online purchases all together. Where is the NSA and the revised SOPA. Get that **** over here nao!

Idiots. Your credit card information is no safer with Google than it is with Amazon or NewEgg. Welcome to the revised internet.

Not to mention, that if you have all your eggs in one basket (Eggs = money) then you deserve to have it stolen. Think.

A consolidated purchasing exchange technology is different than a machine-only-readable storage of credit cards at Amazon or Microsoft.

You seem to not really understand this.

Just to refresh your memory when it was Microsoft proposing this as a part of Passort/LiveID over 10 years ago...


In July and August 2001, the Electronic Privacy Information Center and a coalition of fourteen leading consumer groups filed complaints with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) alleging that the Microsoft Passport system violated Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (FTCA), which prohibits unfair or deceptive practices in trade.
- Source Wiki

Ironically it was many of the same people (possible even you) 'supporting' Google that were against this 10 years ago because they hated Microsoft.

_______________________
It is time the US and other governments establish a digital currency. Independent systems that work like the electronic funds transfers, but are designed for consumer purchasing.

This transition has happened many times in the history of the USA alone, from metals prices, to coins, to unification of currency at the state then federal level to the transition to notes and paper money.

The same security and care should be put into this that prevents currency fraud, and it should be a unified system that is a tool of the commons and not corporate 'backed' technologies.

You know what, this pro-Microsoft bias that Neowin, Neobond, and all the Neowin staff has is going too far. Having an opinion, whether or not it is financially motivated, is fine and understandable.

However, spreading propaganda like this is unacceptable. The service is Google Wallet, which, to me, and according to my "oh-so-uninformed" point of view, looks like a Paypal type of service. If that is not the case, feel free to correct me, but if it is the case, isn't it... I dunno... LOGICAL, that they ask for a payment method?!?

You guys are out of control. Not talking about the community; I'm talking about people like Neobond who, by letting this slide, condone and commend the spreading of propaganda that would favor their financial interests.

Truth be told, I don't care what will be the consequences of me posting this, as I definitely don't plan to come back. First, the BS about the big G stealing your personal info, and now, you wanna make people believe they also steal credit card info?

Get real! I dislike invasions of privacy as much as the next guy, but you guys are completely out of it, seeing any business opportunity MS opponents try to seize as being completely immoral, like the big M has always been white as snow. Remember, 12 years ago isn't all that long ago, after all...

Doesn't look like they're complaining about the idea of putting a credit card number in for Google Wallet. They're taking issue with being prompted to set up a Google Wallet when setting up an email account.

It would be like going to the bank to open a simple savings account but then they ask you if you want a credit check for a loan approval.

Adequate, you seem to forget what "Win" is short for. Also, YEAH, privacy is thrown out the window when they conveniently ask for your personal banking information. It seems perfectly RATIONAL to provide your credit information just to sign up for an otherwise FREE email service... or, rather, an unrelated extension of the service.

This pattern is akin to being duped into free credit monitoring services (for only $99/year, thanks to your insertion of a credit card) when conducting credit history verifications... or signing up on a dating site... or searching for a job.

Yeah, that's what I am gonna do too.

I have come here less and less since G+ has started, anyways. Too sad, Neowin was the only place I come in my spare time in office. I had thought the unprofessional journalism will not only look better but also will become professional. But it looks like they are turning into TC and the gang that created that.

Well.. good luck.

Enron said,
It would be like going to the bank to open a simple savings account but then they ask you if you want a credit check for a loan approval.

Last time I asked for a bank guarantee for reting an apartment (guaranteed with my own money) the bank told me it was a requirement to also sign a life insurance with their partners.

Adequate said,
You know what, this pro-Microsoft bias that Neowin, Neobond, and all the Neowin staff has is going too far. Having an opinion, whether or not it is financially motivated, is fine and understandable.

However, spreading propaganda like this is unacceptable. The service is Google Wallet, which, to me, and according to my "oh-so-uninformed" point of view, looks like a Paypal type of service. If that is not the case, feel free to correct me, but if it is the case, isn't it... I dunno... LOGICAL, that they ask for a payment method?!?

You guys are out of control. Not talking about the community; I'm talking about people like Neobond who, by letting this slide, condone and commend the spreading of propaganda that would favor their financial interests.

Truth be told, I don't care what will be the consequences of me posting this, as I definitely don't plan to come back. First, the BS about the big G stealing your personal info, and now, you wanna make people believe they also steal credit card info?

Get real! I dislike invasions of privacy as much as the next guy, but you guys are completely out of it, seeing any business opportunity MS opponents try to seize as being completely immoral, like the big M has always been white as snow. Remember, 12 years ago isn't all that long ago, after all...

Funny, when Microsoft introduced an online Wallet technology that was linked with a much more 'secure' technology using the GUID/Passport/LiveID system about 10 years ago or more...

...The world, including people probably a lot like you responded with the anti-Microsoft crap.

Yet here we are with (Google) that is known to exploit users, and is known to have a rather poor encryption technology for user login/data, and even server technologies that have been hacked many times in the past few years.

And now it is just 'fine' to allow them to re-invent the same Microsoft concept from 10 years ago. And do so with far less secure technology, and this should just be ok.

I guess it is ok 'NOW' because it is not Microsoft.

There are concerns, and I don't care if it was being offered by a god, we should question it, which is NOT anti-Google anything.

Get it?

PS If you want an anti-Google case, I can write you one, as I knew people that were killed fleeing Africa from information a government bought from Google. So let us not go there, ok?

thenetavenger said,

PS If you want an anti-Google case, I can write you one, as I knew people that were killed fleeing Africa from information a government bought from Google. So let us not go there, ok?

Why not going there? That would make a far more interesting article than all this crap.

Woohoo, an optional form to add Google Wallet to your account! Come back to me when they mandate it for a Gmail account and then we can start making a fuss.

smooth3006 said,
im sure this won't be a requirement, just an option.

It's not a requirement - look at the screenshot.

smooth3006 said,
im sure this won't be a requirement, just an option.

I think the point everyone here is trying to make is that they don't mind the option, but they want to go searching for it. They don't want the option in their face when they are signing up for an account.

mundox said,
That NOT NOW button really make its clear that google wants to force you into entering your credit card.

Sssh this guy would've be able to draw negative attention towards google if that were true.

Where is the issue. Create a wallet if you want or skip that step is you don't want to.

People see issues everywhere these days. If you are not happy, just don't use the product and stop complaining about ... nothing ...

I think the Internet it's going to nowhere after this year. The big guys want it to make it into a ****ing big shopping bag, more than it is already anyways.

Well its obvious you don't have to enter any details or pay anything on account of it saying "Add Google Wallet to your account" and the presence of a "not now" button at the bottom of the dialogue.

If you don't like it don't use Google products or simply click the "not now" button.

there needs to be a way to stop people making fake accounts. especially the ones who want to hide their ident when I do a email search.

DrOmango said,
there needs to be a way to stop people making fake accounts. especially the ones who want to hide their ident when I do a email search.

Too bad this won't do it, given the addition of the "Not now" button.

SharpGreen said,

Too bad this won't do it, given the addition of the "Not now" button.

they will never make it mandatory because those cards have limited popularity around the world. russia doesn't use them. japan has own cards. china i'm sure has something own as well.

rojorojo said,
Google will never get my card number. As far as I know they may have already stolen it!

Yeah, looks like it has been getting too hard to obtain it from people without an Android Phone and/or Google Chrome.

They do that for a while now when you first register your Google Account to the Android Market. They ask you to enter your CC info and register for Google Wallet (former Google Checkout).

They probably added it as an optional step now for the new Gmail/Google Account users.

Oh snap. The Google haters and tech journalists who have nothing else to talk about (not saying Brad Sams is one of them) are going to have a field day over this.

It just seems so subtle to include in with email registration, i could see if you purchased things in the market or somewhere else...but "hey you like our email, gives us your CC# too!"

They can ask for anything they want, anyone can ask for anything. If you find a problem with whatever they're asking for, then just don't do it. Besides, Google wallet is a legitimate service. I might even sign up for it to see if I like it. What is the problem here? There's nothing wrong with promoting a service from their own company in different parts of their site.

Tekkerson said,
They can ask for anything they want, anyone can ask for anything. If you find a problem with whatever they're asking for, then just don't do it. Besides, Google wallet is a legitimate service. I might even sign up for it to see if I like it. What is the problem here? There's nothing wrong with promoting a service from their own company in different parts of their site.

Luring in clicks, that's it.

Oh and heavily opinion-infected news article.
I don't know about other countries, but in Germany and many more places I know there's a rule in journalism to put editorials where they belong and leave the news untouched of any opinion, false facts or anything else but the bare naked news.

GS:mac

Tekkerson said,
They can ask for anything they want, anyone can ask for anything. If you find a problem with whatever they're asking for, then just don't do it. Besides, Google wallet is a legitimate service. I might even sign up for it to see if I like it. What is the problem here? There's nothing wrong with promoting a service from their own company in different parts of their site.

I totally agree with you, I don't find anything wrong in requesting my CC for their service, and as long as they provide me "Not now" button, that's perfect. No one forces you to use their service, no one forces you to enter your CC card.

I am disgusted how Neowin editors tries to make Google/Gmail looks bad over Bing/Hotmail.

Also, as far as I can see, they request those details when you create a new Wallet account without having a Gmail account, so how do you propose to pay the Apps or whatever you buy with GWalled? Also PayPal requests your CC when you sign up, doesn't it?

Stop these poor, lame attempts to put Google in a bad light, I personally like their services, also I use hotmail from time to time, but their interface it's so poor...

Just say "not now"... how hard is it?

I have mine entered because I use Google Checkout (Wallet) for purchases.

Raa said,
Just say "not now"... how hard is it?

I have mine entered because I use Google Checkout (Wallet) for purchases.

Don't let logic get in the way of a sensationalist article

Mikee4fun said,
Wow Neowin on a mission of hate towards google, Jesus give it a rest.


Havent you noticed they cant resist posting every little iPhone piece they can?

Mikee4fun said,
Wow Neowin on a mission of hate towards google, Jesus give it a rest.

yeah right. If MS did this with Hotmail sign up, the bitching about it would overload the IntersWebNets.

Mikee4fun said,
Wow Neowin on a mission of hate towards google, Jesus give it a rest.
if news = tech then post.
Google news = tech. See above posting rule.

cybertimber2008 said,
if news = tech then post.
Google news = tech. See above posting rule.

Possibly it's the constant mixing of editorial and news?
It's something that I'm facing more and more over the years now on Neowin.

"Unprofessional Journalism" all fine and dandy with me, however constantly having to read someone's opinion in a NEWS ARTICLE bugs me like nothing else apart from false facts.

Also, the title is a LITTLE sensationalist, as I bet you can either skip or cancel the G Wallet signup after having successfully created a GMail account. (edit: looked at the screenshot, yes, you can skip it... Good grief. They are not forcing you, no problem there...)

It's not like they will have a CC info field in the GMail sign up form, is it?

GS:mac

Mikee4fun said,
Wow Neowin on a mission of hate towards google, Jesus give it a rest.

i don't see any hate they are telling you that google offering you to enter your credit card if you want when you sign up with gmail where is the hate ?
stop been sensitive

Mikee4fun said,
Wow Neowin on a mission of hate towards google, Jesus give it a rest.

What is up with all the hate towards NeoWin? Hate, hate, hate. All you hating haters full of hate, I am sick of your hate. If you don't can't control your hate, then you should just take your hate somewhere else where your hate is appreciated. May I suggest the haters.com, which is full of hating haters full of hate just like yourself.

Glassed Silver said,

Possibly it's the constant mixing of editorial and news?
It's something that I'm facing more and more over the years now on Neowin.

"Unprofessional Journalism" all fine and dandy with me, however constantly having to read someone's opinion in a NEWS ARTICLE bugs me like nothing else apart from false facts.

Also, the title is a LITTLE sensationalist, as I bet you can either skip or cancel the G Wallet signup after having successfully created a GMail account. (edit: looked at the screenshot, yes, you can skip it... Good grief. They are not forcing you, no problem there...)

It's not like they will have a CC info field in the GMail sign up form, is it?

GS:mac

People are really dumb if you think Gmail requires (emphasis on the word require) a CC.

Mikee4fun said,
Wow Neowin on a mission of hate towards google, Jesus give it a rest.

Neowin is not on a hate mission. Google is on a dominating mission and they (Neowin) are just reporting.

jdegree said,

Neowin is not on a hate mission. Google is on a dominating mission and they (Neowin) are just reporting.

This. For the first time in almost 8 years, I'm actually contemplating closing my Google accounts.

jdegree said,

Neowin is not on a hate mission. Google is on a dominating mission and they (Neowin) are just reporting.

I agree. Google is using every fibre of their being, to get a monopoly in other markets. First using Search, to get Gmail successful. Then Google +1, then Google Circles. And a host of other stuff, and now this. Google Wallet.

FMH said,

I agree. Google is using every fibre of their being, to get a monopoly in other markets. First using Search, to get Gmail successful. Then Google +1, then Google Circles. And a host of other stuff, and now this. Google Wallet.


Hmmm...

Back in the day GMail's offer was basically unmatched by any other freemail service.

Google +1 an attempt to get a monopoly? Sure, they integrate it into search results, but actually I couldn't care less about who gets the biggest pie of the "liking" market.

Google Circles, wow... a feature of their social network.
Excuse me, but you would have solved that how? There are only so many ways to group your friends and circles just has some slight but important improvements there.
Monopoly? Well, they can try, can't they? Why not? Why not provide a coherent ecosystem? It's something I value Apple big time for.
Obviously they aren't "successfully forcing" or profiting from users that are too lazy to make an educated choice.

Google Wallet's success is dependent on two things:
a) Where can I only pay with it? As in: PP, Moneybookers and the other similar services are not there... Hmmm... Android Market, but can't blame them they have their own billing system for their own market. Makes sense. Why outsource the cashiers?
b) 3rd party shop/... support ist dependent on two things: Price and costumer base.
If Google manages to make an attractive offer for fees that the shops have to pay, then way to go for them. Competition is good, just because it's from one hand isn't a necessary evil.

This is the same flipped up logic that was used against Microsoft and I always laughed about it.
Now us Europeans get a ballot screen.
Wow... So I chose my browser... Based on some cool logos and marketing talk.
Not much different from preinstalled IE as default and the ability to fall for online ads.

If you want real change on your desktop, educate yourself, read reviews, try the browsers/services/etc...
But if people are too lazy to do it and don't have tech savvy friends that might bother to help, I completely fail to see the drama.

Don't over regulate stuff.
You're still free to say no and check the alternatives or even in this case probably stick to the stuff you already use:
Paypal (market leader, no?)
Facebook / Twitter (leading clearly)
GMail is successful, but rightfully so (either way it would be), many stuck with what they have, especially the "uneducated" as people (me included ) hate to mail their new email addresses, worry about all their accounts registered to a legacy address, etc...

GS:mac

gregalto said,

absolute crap isnt it? eamil != CC info, nice try google

You do realize that there is a "not now" button, right? you aren't being forced to do it. sensationalist news article designed to draw negative attention to Google.

Fail

SirEvan said,

You do realize that there is a "not now" button, right? you aren't being forced to do it. sensationalist news article designed to draw negative attention to Google.

Fail

I use Google services, but this a big fail. Many new not techie users will understand that it is mandatory to join Google Wallet in order to open a Gmail account and will submit Credit Card info.

alexalex said,

I use Google services, but this a big fail. Many new not techie users will understand that it is mandatory to join Google Wallet in order to open a Gmail account and will submit Credit Card info.

If that is the case then these people shouldn't go anywhere near their computer with a credit card!

If they can't see the 'Not Now' button then it won't be long before they are victims of Phishing or one of the many other internet scams.

SirEvan said,

You do realize that there is a "not now" button, right? you aren't being forced to do it. sensationalist news article designed to draw negative attention to Google.

Fail

Yes, "Not now" is there but they should also have one more button called "Never"

HardyRexion said,

If that is the case then these people shouldn't go anywhere near their computer with a credit card!

If they can't see the 'Not Now' button then it won't be long before they are victims of Phishing or one of the many other internet scams.

Many, many users of the Web still mistake Google for the address bar, believe Google IS the Internet, know nothing of the beginning of the start of what a computer is, have not one idea of what a browser, caches, cookies, history is ... so yes, Google's new move to put a wallet on an email page will be disturbing, misleading for many, many users.

Gentlemen, whatever the level of knowledge of each, let us remember the world is wide.

HardyRexion said,

If that is the case then these people shouldn't go anywhere near their computer with a credit card!

If they can't see the 'Not Now' button then it won't be long before they are victims of Phishing or one of the many other internet scams.

nice way to generalise non techie people.

illegaloperation said,
In the future, Google will ask for your social security number.

In the future, Google will issue you your social security number.

HardyRexion said,
If they can't see the 'Not Now' button then it won't be long before they are victims of Phishing or one of the many other internet scams.

You mean, kind of like the ones that Google warns it's users about? Like informing it's users to never give out personal information, credit cards, phone numbers, passwords, etc. OH WAIT - that's how you set up your Gmail account now! In retrospect, when they asked me for my personal cellphone number to "verify" my account, I think that's when I should have realized what was going to happen.

This is the first time in almost 8 years I'm seriously considering switching out of using Google's services, and this is exactly why.

I really want to keep using Google. They're fast, they're awesome, but man, they have *really* lost touch with what the term "privacy" means.

SirEvan said,
You do realize that there is a "not now" button, right? you aren't being forced to do it. sensationalist news article designed to draw negative attention to Google.
Hardly. How is it sensationalist? It doesn't say you're forced to enter it, and the image clearly shows the button.

To my eye, it's literally just reporting that Google is considering adding this to the sign up, and it's a bit weird. And ... well ... it *is* a bit weird.

buletov said,

In the future, Google will issue you your social security number.


can you imagine a world where every person has a unique identifiable gmail address attached to them? Imagine the possibilities!! wait...

buletov said,

In the future, Google will issue you your social security number.

And then, "what did you had for breakfast this morning".

I don't think you need to be techie to be able to read. This could fool illiterate people, but 'not-techie' I don't think so. I mean, it's not like 'Not Now' is very difficult to understand, right? Then again, why would someone who can't read sign up for email?

alexalex said,

I use Google services, but this a big fail. Many new not techie users will understand that it is mandatory to join Google Wallet in order to open a Gmail account and will submit Credit Card info.

SirEvan said,
You do realize that there is a "not now" button, right? you aren't being forced to do it. sensationalist news article designed to draw negative attention to Google.
That's great, but this is a classic case of bundling to force, or trick consumers into using a product that they otherwise had no intention of using. In general, I have nothing against bundling except when there is no logical connection, which points to abuse (or a small company).

Email and a payment service? How are those two connected (other than technically, through the account in the background)? Hell, at least Microsoft was giving users a web browser with their bundling. This is just Google trying to set themselves up for a situation where they get the ~2% merchant fee associated with credit card processing, because you signed up for their email service.

This is made worse because Google Wallet still has a few flagrant security flaws.

Yes, you can avoid it ("Not now"). You could also install other web browsers in Windows, but I bet most of the defenders here hated that option. This is pretty much the same thing, except it has no relation to the original service.

coch said,
Then again, why would someone who can't read sign up for email?
One thing people outside of the software development world fail to realize is just how little users actually do read. It has very little--if anything--to do with reading comprehension. Users frequently go into autopilot when filling out forms and they simply do not think.

As a developer, I can think of a few not-too crazy situations. Here's one:

1. Someone tells their computer illiterate parent to sign up for Gmail because it's by far the best email service (true). Parent gets to this screen and assumes he has to pay for the service. Autopilot fills it out.

As they say, if you make something idiot proof, then the world will make a better idiot. However, this is Google being mischievous. After all, how many non-technical people do not already have Gmail accounts?