Images of the Galaxy S IV leak on Chinese forum

Everybody is anxiously waiting for the upcoming Samsung event when the company will unveil its brand new Galaxy S IV device. But, as expected, pictures have already started leaking around the internet claiming to show what Samsung's new device will look like.

The pictures you see here come from a Chinese forum and they purport to show a Chinese version of the Galaxy S IV. If these images are real, and so far they seem to be, Samsung's upcoming device hasn't changed much in terms of design when compared to last year's Galaxy S III. The only real difference is that the new phone is supposed to have a 5-inch HD screen.

Besides the new, or rather old design, we also get to glimpse some specs for the new device. The resolution is indeed HD at 1920x1080, the phone has 2 GB RAM and a "Universal 5410" CPU. This fits quite nicely with the expected 8-core Exynos 5410 that is supposed to be launched with the Galaxy S IV. The device also runs TouchWiz on top of Android 4.2.1.

As these are "unconfirmed" leaks from China, you should take them with a grain of salt. And also remember that last year Samsung used fake cases to throw people off their design trail. So better make that a fistful of salt. In either case we won't have long to wait as Samsung's launch event is just days away.

Via: Pocketnow Source: 52Samsung

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The reason why people are angry is mostly because of the hype Samsung has done through all the teasers

But again, we'll see the real one when the day comes, as this may not be how the the final product will look?

Guys, I am having bit a of trouble here.

I wanted to make a comment about how I am not too keen on the overall design aesthetic of this phone(assuming it is the real deal), but I am struggling to write out a comment that fits in with the comment standard of Neowin

This is what I have so far:

"F*** YOU SAMSUNG!! THIS PHONE IS F***ING **** YOU F***ING RETARDED C***S !!

I think I have the aggression(maybe too much?) & childishness down, but perhaps I need something to make it more argumentative?

Naah, just dummy casing, disguising the final look of the new phone. Dummy casings are just one of the ways phone companies disguise the look of their hotly anticipated new devices.

lets just compare s4 with specs not in terms of design i think samsung always gave better spec compare to other brands. that's why millions of people likes to choose samsung rather than overpriced less spec premium devices.all other brands fan boys always talks design because they cant get what they want except design. and they don't have any other thoughts rather than shiting about design of s4. im happy that they are providing a removable battery (2600mh as rumors)

Funny to read all the hate about the design, still, they sold boat loads of the S3....

Since the S4 look about the same....

TruckWEB said,
Funny to read all the hate about the design, still, they sold boat loads of the S3....

Since the S4 look about the same....


Actually they didn't sell boart loads of this crap phone, Apple sold boat loads of the iPhone 5, Scamsung sold a few trunk full by comparison.

TruckWEB said,
Funny to read all the hate about the design, still, they sold boat loads of the S3....

Since the S4 look about the same....

Because they were bundled with cheaper tariffs on networks. Cheaper phone = lower tariff. Sorry man, it's not because they're amazing phones. Just was the best that Android phone people were sold at the time.

Spirit Dave said,

Because they were bundled with cheaper tariffs on networks. Cheaper phone = lower tariff. Sorry man, it's not because they're amazing phones. Just was the best that Android phone people were sold at the time.

I got my 4s for FREE on 2yrs contract a year before the i5 came , and its the same for most networks in Australia. Now that's a bargain.... not only cheaper.

I think it's fake. I don't think they are that stupid to come with this crappy/boring design. That thing is as nicely rounded as my ass.

i much like the look of the s3 and the supposed s4 looks better than the silly chunky heavy square looking iphone, hell i prefer the design over my old htc legend and the s2 we had also

DKAngel said,
i much like the look of the s3 and the supposed s4 looks better than the silly chunky heavy square looking iphone, hell i prefer the design over my old htc legend and the s2 we had also

Heavy iPhone? Have you felt the 5 ? It's the lightest phone you'll put your hands on! The S3 is plastic ... and still heavier! LOL.

The iPhone 5 feels like a prop. You think it is fake until the screen actually turns on. Be careful when the wind is more than 10 MPH, Apple doesn't cover Wind Gusts.

DarkNet said,
The iPhone 5 feels like a prop. You think it is fake until the screen actually turns on. Be careful when the wind is more than 10 MPH, Apple doesn't cover Wind Gusts.

Anti-Apple fanboy Sad really ... Since I guarantee you don't have a fraction of the real world experience with every one of the phones discussed here that I do, and yet you talk like you do. I have every single one of the phones talked about here. I design phone apps and work intensively with them every day of the week. And every night of the week. My opinion is more valid than yours

So in other words your comment is meaningless since people will buy it. Gotcha.

Besides looks are subjective. So again your comment is meaningless.

Zoli Csáki said,
Let's all eat sh*t then. A million flies can't be wrong!

Dumbest comment ever. Not worth justifying how stupid it is to compare a person to a fly.

ITT people can't stand the fact that others have opinions.

Amazingly, we can talk about how crappy the iPhone is regardless of the fact that they also fly off the shelves... "Oh, but that's just iSheep!" Riiiiight. I'm an Android user, and not even I can buy that.

I don't own any TouchWiz products because I think it is ugly. The physical phone is nice and the specs are nice but I can't buy a TouchWiz device. I think it is just as ugly as an iOS device.

Thanks Mr. Anal. I think everyone on here knew what I meant. Do you feel special that you somehow contributed?

The bottom line is I do like Samsung. I own a Galaxy Nexus. Thankfully this device runs stock Android. If it were running TouchWiz, I would never have bought it.

Kenny Kanashimi Chu said,
TouchWiz is not a product. Is an OS name. Just like Sony have Xperia etc.

No. No. No. Android is an OS. TouchWiz is a skin and butchered functionality that has been slapped on top (badly) of Android.

Sorry ... TouchWiz is an atrocity.

Spirit Dave said,
Sorry ... TouchWiz is an atrocity.

Agreed. I want to root my phone and such, but I'm still iffy on if that's something I want to do yet.

Spirit Dave said,

No. No. No. Android is an OS. TouchWiz is a skin and butchered functionality that has been slapped on top (badly) of Android.

Sorry ... TouchWiz is an atrocity.

TouchWiz is not a skin. It is a framework. But most haters don't know that. It is very hard to explain the difference between a framework and a skin. Too much to take in I guess.

Apple has had very little design changes, or non at all, between models as well. Like the 4 and 4s and really the 5 doesnt look a whole hell of a lot different either. Samsung found a design that works for them and they are sticking to it.

techbeck said,
Apple has had very little design changes, or non at all, between models as well. Like the 4 and 4s and really the 5 doesnt look a whole hell of a lot different either. Samsung found a design that works for them and they are sticking to it.

When you sit a 4 next to a 5, they're very distinctively different. I know this, because I have them both I also have a bunch of Samsung phones, including the Galaxy ACE, the S3 and whatever else I'm using to design my app with.

Problem is that it doesn't work for all of us. I often see forum posts of people begging for at least some sort of "premium" alternative, where they can get on par with the quality of the iPhones. I personally believe there's an untapped market for Samsung in this regard: if they can make a phone with the great hardware/software as they do, in a premium casing, they could easily slap another $50 on there and expect it to sell well.

Hell, I'd buy it even...

Spirit Dave said,

When you sit a 4 next to a 5, they're very distinctively different.

I didnt say they didnt look different, just not much had changed. And honestly, Apple could of kept the same 4s look and it would still sell well. Why fix something if it isnt broken?

dead.cell said,
Problem is that it doesn't work for all of us. I often see forum posts of people begging for at least some sort of "premium" alternative, where they can get on par with the quality of the iPhones. I personally believe there's an untapped market for Samsung in this regard: if they can make a phone with the great hardware/software as they do, in a premium casing, they could easily slap another $50 on there and expect it to sell well.

Hell, I'd buy it even...

I would use a boxy looking device over anything as long as it has the functionality I need now, and a couple years from now. Design/looks come second when I am buying something.

Seems like you're fighting yourself on two arguments here...

All we're doing is being critical so that we as a consumer can see better products. First or second, it's still a priority. I'm sure many of us use our vehicle to get to work just the same, but that doesn't mean we want to all drive around in a cruddy looking machine.

techbeck said,
Same looking phone...just different hardware. Samsung needs to do something or they will end up like Apple. Stale, boring, and just nothing new/different to bring to the table.

dead.cell said,
Seems like you're fighting yourself on two arguments here...
All we're doing is being critical so that we as a consumer can see better products. First or second, it's still a priority. I'm sure many of us use our vehicle to get to work just the same, but that doesn't mean we want to all drive around in a cruddy looking machine.

Not really. Just a comment about that it doesnt look any different. Meant by something different that Samsung needs to bring something different to the table. Not necessarily design/looks but features.

And Samsung does make a good product. Better that it has a metal case is subjective. And no one is saying you have to drive around in a cruddy vehicle....why there are other options available.

techbeck said,
Not really. Just a comment about that it doesnt look any different. Meant by something different that Samsung needs to bring something different to the table. Not necessarily design/looks but features.

And Samsung does make a good product. Better that it has a metal case is subjective. And no one is saying you have to drive around in a cruddy vehicle....why there are other options available.

I get that your opinion differs, but my point is that I fail to see how it relates to ours. If you're fine with it, that's cool. Let us be critical and objective in how we see it though.

If looks are secondary to you, but Samsung somehow listens to us and responds accordingly, wouldn't you be happy to get a device that looks even better anyway?

Hell, spinning the table here: if Samsung made pretty devices that didn't do a whole lot, I wouldn't downplay your suggestions for better functionality.

dead.cell said,

I get that your opinion differs, but my point is that I fail to see how it relates to ours. If you're fine with it, that's cool. Let us be critical and objective in how we see it though.

I am letting you, and others, be objective. I am just debating with people. I am not telling anyone they are wrong or denying them their opinion.


Hell, spinning the table here: if Samsung made pretty devices that didn't do a whole lot, I wouldn't be telling you, "Whatever guys, it looks pretty so it's fine by me!"

Yea you may not say that...but the uninformed user looking at looks first would....and then buy a product they may or may not like and may or may not do what is they need.


If looks are secondary to you, but Samsung somehow listens to us and responds accordingly, wouldn't you be happy to get a device that looks even better anyway?

Yes, I would be happy...but its not a game changer for me.

So, those are the spec for the "International" version or will it be the same for the North America version?

I remember the S3 being Quad-Core International and dual for North.....

Same looking phone...just different hardware. Samsung needs to do something or they will end up like Apple. Stale, boring, and just nothing new/different to bring to the table.

Absolutely. Just voicing my opinion. I had an S3 myself, I used it for a long time. I soon forgot about the look, because it really was a pleasure to use. So certainly not bagging the device as a whole.

Only upgraded because of my Lumia 920.

DarkNet said,
Subjective view. 40+ Million people would disagree with your view.

Wrong. 40 million people is a figure of people you have no data on regarding opinion. A massive amount of owners of Android phones buy them because they're cheaper, and therefore they get lower cost deals on the phone packages they get. Samsung make undesirable looking products. Plastic shine, nasty soap shaped objects are not typically regarded as lovely looking. In fact, when the original iPhone came out, I thought it was hideous. Sure, better than the vast majority of terrible phones at the time, but the first time I wowed at a phone design was the iPhone 4. And the 5 steps it up. It's easily the most desirable looking phone out there. The problem with the other companies in the industry is that they see design as secondary. Apple and other companies in certain industries realise the importance of beauty in their products. If Samsung thought beauty in their products was important, they'd ditch the current design team, and use Android as Google meant it to be. Clean, beautiful etc. The current Touchwiz crap that Samsung have thrown onto the phones is an abomination of design. It looks like they've ripped out icons from Windows 98. The color choices are horrendous. Believe me, Apple needs to up their game on the software design side of things too, as I think currently the best looking OS out there is Android ... Google's release. But Samsung? They seriously need to start moving towards the premium end of the design market, because as it is, their phones look like cheap handsets made for people on a budget. And is that the right approach? I don't know ... but I know a lot of people who steer clear of Samsung phones because they look and feel nasty. Their Televisions are exceptional in quality and design ... why they can't bring in some of those designers I have no idea.

They buy them because they work. It's that simple. There is no denying Samsung make good products, I just don't think they look good.

DarkNet said,

I'm wrong to say it is a subjective view. OK their buddy. Go back in your bubble now.

I don't have one. If you do, and you are standing outside of it ... good for you. But I see the world through non-biased eyes. I'm almost certain that you don't. I suspect because you can't afford a product you'll attack it.

Spirit Dave said,

I don't have one. If you do, and you are standing outside of it ... good for you. But I see the world through non-biased eyes. I'm almost certain that you don't. I suspect because you can't afford a product you'll attack it.

Would you like a picture of my Macbook Air, HP Laptop, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Chromebook, iPad 4 and Nexus 7?

Or is it I attack products that I have tried and see faults in them. I would show you my Surface too but I returned that piece of garbage. Thankfully I have my Microsoft receipt to show you.

Stay inside your bubble until you are an adult.

Spirit Dave said,

Wrong. 40 million people is a figure of people you have no data on regarding opinion. A massive amount of owners of Android phones buy them because they're cheaper, and therefore they get lower cost deals on the phone packages they get. Samsung make undesirable looking products. Plastic shine, nasty soap shaped objects are not typically regarded as lovely looking. In fact, when the original iPhone came out, I thought it was hideous. Sure, better than the vast majority of terrible phones at the time, but the first time I wowed at a phone design was the iPhone 4. And the 5 steps it up. It's easily the most desirable looking phone out there. The problem with the other companies in the industry is that they see design as secondary. Apple and other companies in certain industries realise the importance of beauty in their products. If Samsung thought beauty in their products was important, they'd ditch the current design team, and use Android as Google meant it to be. Clean, beautiful etc. The current Touchwiz crap that Samsung have thrown onto the phones is an abomination of design. It looks like they've ripped out icons from Windows 98. The color choices are horrendous. Believe me, Apple needs to up their game on the software design side of things too, as I think currently the best looking OS out there is Android ... Google's release. But Samsung? They seriously need to start moving towards the premium end of the design market, because as it is, their phones look like cheap handsets made for people on a budget. And is that the right approach? I don't know ... but I know a lot of people who steer clear of Samsung phones because they look and feel nasty. Their Televisions are exceptional in quality and design ... why they can't bring in some of those designers I have no idea.

Your calim is pure bull. People buy ANdroid phones because they are cheaper? Here let me help you with factual numbers.

Accord to all reports by Q3 of 2012, Samsung sold 90M "phones". According to the breakdown, 45M+ were of the smart variety. A further breakdown showed the vast majority of the smartphone sold were the Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and the Galaxy Note 2. Which meand the rest were cheap phones.

When the iPhone 5 was announce, Samsung reported that sales of the Galaxy S III rose significantly to a point many stores and carriers ran out of stock. Verzion Wireless reported that after the iPhone 5 was annouce officially that sales of the Motorola Razr and Razr M whoich both cost more than the 16GB iPhone on contract were actually outselling the 4S which aklso had high sales. When Verzion announce they were finally getting the iPhone 4, VZW reported sals of the HTC Thunderbolt were still having higher sales as long as 2 months after the iPhone 4 was on sale in their local stores. In each case the Thunderbolt was 299.99 the Razr and Razr M were both also 249.99 and 299.99 and the GSII was 199.99, GS3 199.99 to 299 depending on carrier ande the Note 2 was also 299.99. NONE OF THOSE PHONES ARE CHEAPER THAN THE iPHONE.

You are clueless as other fans of other platfoirms to claim the biggest majority of Android phones that are sold are cheap. That is simply a outright fantastic lie you all come up with to make Android seem lame.

Yes Android phones are sold in matrkets where fancier models likely wont be bought in huge numbers, which yes is why Samsung does make variants of their lines for those markets. However in many of those marjets like Asian, Many of them still are using 10 year old Nokia devices and they still use Blackberry in high numbers.

Here let me give you an example...ij the Philippines where my wife is from Globe Telecom also offers the iPhone. However it is so expensive that most in the phils have Nokia devices and Blackberry's only. My wife's sister did buy her and her hubby an iPhone. but she only can afford one bec whe works in Dubai where they make more money. In the phils where the average income is equal in a month of work to about $300 USD, there is no way they could afford an iPhone. People in asian countries are not buying iPhone in as large numbers as we do in the USA. In fact even Microsoft has a higher marketshare with Windows Phone in China than APple has with iPhone. In Europe, Android and Microsoft is pushing Apple down in numbers.

You need to google and read facts and stop regurgitaing all those lame unstantate filthy lies that fans of Apple and others love to claim.

It shows a lack of thought, a lack of knowledge and basically its plain dumb. I would never just repeat what I hear. Yes when iPhone first appear, and then Android....uyes many Android models were cheap. This all changed after 2009 when HTC released the Droid Incredible and the Evo which both combined for 3 quarters outsold the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. Which is another fact you can Google. In fcat a guy from best buy made several vids on youtube where he mocked the iPhone 4 vs the Evo 4G.

When the iPhone 4 was release, Steve Jobs claimed no one would want a phone larger than the iPhone. Yet in that same year 25% of the Andriod phones that were selling were 4"or larger and they all were equal in price or higher than the iPhone 4.

if you vcan't speak the truth its best you dont speak at all. Because i will ceratinly call out your post with facts. Over 40M GS3 have sold. Its not becaus ethey are cheap. In fcat the GS3 has the largest pre-order vs any iPhone ever with 9M. The Galaxy Note 2 has sold nearly 20M already yet you fans of IOS for example, claim they are to big. YES they are to big for many. However if you go on Facebook and look at the Samsung page you will see many GS3 and GN2 owners are females and they tend to have smaller hands vs men, yet they are all happy with their phones and have no complaints whatsoever. Over 60M people right now own a device that is 4.3" or larger and that number is growing. Hmmm...so how can you as a single perosn say these 60M+ people are wrong just because you basically have no taste...as many like you think the iPhone is so great. Its really not. Liek the Mac the iPhone is a half-baked expensive looking piece of junk that is overpriced, overrrated and to limited for my usage...tho I did own 2, but I learned to stop trying to be like the Jones and be like myself. BIG IS BETTER. Samsung phones yes look kinda plain, but they more than make up for it with the features people want...user replaceble batts, extended storage, large screen, NFC, file transfer over BT, wireless charging and so much more. Can you iPhone so any fo that? NOOOOOOO! Yes Apple proves everyday can sell **** by placing it in a fancy case and throwing toppings all over it to cover it up. No mater how you dress it, its still **** inside.

nvllsvm said,
+1

I love the clean look of my Nexus 4 and would never want to go back to an annoying, physical home button.

agree. Gets annoying touching the flanking buttons then having to press the home button. Takes more effort lol. But I love my sgs3 and my n4.

Sony Z Series, Nokia Lumias are so much better than crappy samsung designs.. i wonder when the law of diminishing return will kick in with the specs of the phone

Spirit Dave said,
Ugly design. Typical of Samsung who for their phone department, hire blind people to design their phones.

They got sued by Apple last time they made their phone a generic oblong with rounded corners, the S3 and S4 looks like it was designed by the lawyers so Apple can't sue them again.

You should take a look at Nokia's and HTC's phones if you want proof that you can design beautiful phones without infringing on Apple's patents...

Spirit Dave said,
Ugly design. Typical of Samsung who for their phone department, hire blind people to design their phones.

Blame Apple really for patenting rounded corners.

TheLegendOfMart said,

They got sued by Apple last time they made their phone a generic oblong with rounded corners, the S3 and S4 looks like it was designed by the lawyers so Apple can't sue them again.

I think you meant to say a square with rounded corners resembling an oblong.....instead of an oblong with rounded corners. lets pay attention in math class guys

ctrl_alt_delete said,

I think you meant to say a square with rounded corners resembling an oblong.....instead of an oblong with rounded corners. lets pay attention in math class guys


Um, I meant what I said.

An oblong is a rectangle with its length greater than its width, phones aren't square, they are rectangular. Get your own facts right before you start lecturing others.

It's not just their phones though, their 10.1 tablets and laptops look pretty lame too. The GSII was rather sexy though, and their 7" tablet looks rather decent too minus the backside. Really, they do good hardware/software otherwise. I just wish they had designers that were worth a damn.

TheLegendOfMart said,

They got sued by Apple last time they made their phone a generic oblong with rounded corners, the S3 and S4 looks like it was designed by the lawyers so Apple can't sue them again.

If anyone thinks that the basic shape is what makes a device beautiful they're barking up the wrong tree. Materials, edges, cleanliness etc. These are all important. Samsung makes cheap, plastic grade products that don't stand up against other designs by other manufacturers ... and I don't just mean Apple. Sorry but it's absolute truth. Samsung as a company aren't designing these phones ... they have a design department ... a small number of people are designing them ... and those small number of people aren't world class designers, so Samsung need to re-think the people they're hiring for design.

Spirit Dave said,

so Samsung need to re-think the people they're hiring for design.

Why does Samsung need to rethink design? Their phones are selling like crazy.

techbeck said,

Why does Samsung need to rethink design? Their phones are selling like crazy.

They're selling to a different crowd. If they want to cut into Apple's sales properly, they need to release a premium product that competes. If they want to stay where they are ... the next budget down ... fine. But they're not selling because they're quality looking phones.

Spirit Dave said,

They're selling to a different crowd. If they want to cut into Apple's sales properly, they need to release a premium product that competes. If they want to stay where they are ... the next budget down ... fine. But they're not selling because they're quality looking phones.

Didnt Samsung surpass Apple in phone sales? And what different crowd are you talking about? I think Samsung has been competing just fine...and is why Apple is so butt hurt.

ctrl_alt_delete said,

I think you meant to say a square with rounded corners resembling an oblong.....instead of an oblong with rounded corners. lets pay attention in math class guys

a square is a rectangle. A square is defined as having four equal sides, while a rectangle is defined as only four sides. So a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.

CJ33 said,

a square is a rectangle. A square is defined as having four equal sides, while a rectangle is defined as only four sides. So a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.

If a square has four equal sides, how can a rectangle be a square? I think you meant the other way...

A rectangle is a square but a square isn't a rectangle.

techbeck said,

Didnt Samsung surpass Apple in phone sales? And what different crowd are you talking about? I think Samsung has been competing just fine...and is why Apple is so butt hurt.

Butt hurt ? Seriously just used that? Are you a child? And no, Apple have surpassed Samsung as it happens. Check the figures. Not only that, but my point is Samsung make cheaper devices. Remember, cheap sells but doesn't retain a lasting impression like good quality does. Sorry, but I can tell you now, I know more people who've switch ed from Samsung to Apple than vice versa. And all without me involved. And you know what annoys me the most? My discussions about design here are based on my experience as a 13 year professional designer ... not based on what company I love the most. I'm not an Apple fan, I'm a fan of high grade products. That's why currently I am interested mostly in Apple products. When Samsung stop cheaping the hell out of their devices so they can screw the most cash out of each device, and begin making good quality devices with slick design, and drop that abomination that is Touch Wiz ... maybe I'll see Samsung as interesting again. You know, before December 2010, I had no real experience with Apple products and I was as dumb and blind as everyone here that hates on Apple ... the company who they owe their smartphone to even if it's not an Apple one. But I grew up, started realising that it's about quality, not about size of screen and ... oh wait ... that's about it. I have a Nexus 4 here ... great phone. Waaaay better than the S3 ... and still not as good as the iPhone 5. Quality beats all.

[quote=Spirit Dave said,]
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At one point Samsung did surpase Apple is phone sales. Maybe it has switched, again. And doesnt matter if they are cheap phones in terms of sales...I wasnt picking specifics here and comparing the iPhone to a specific Samsung model.

And Touchwiz is junk and it needs to go away. I think if more OEMs would go with the vanilla Andorid look and focus more on the hardware, they would be better off.

And if you have been around for a while, I used to really hate on Apple. I still do not like Apple (the company) but I have personally recommended Apple products to several people. Like a church I was helping out who wanted ot bring kids in to record music/video to get them interested in the subject. I recommended they go Apple. Every day I use Apple, Android, MS, and on occasion, Linux products. Whether they be smart phones, tablets, or just plain computers. We use a little of everything here. And I have used Apple products mainly around 2002 and present in my job(s).

And cool that you know more poeple switching from Android to other platforms...I see the opposite in my circles. However, I have been mulling over switching sometime as well if Android doesnt do anything else to peak my interest.

I havea GNEX, it is a quality product. I have dropped it several times (on concrete) and it was only when I was on the roof last summer (dropped it from 10ft) that the screen actually cracked. It is fast, works great, and never had a problem with anything on it. I have personally seen iPhones dropped while sitting down off someone's lap and the screen shatters. Most people I know who have iPhones have cracked screens and everyone I know who has an Android, their screen is perfect. But that is my experience and may not be what others see. So Android, Samsung, produces quality products that are competing just fine.

If a square has four equal sides, how can a rectangle be a square? I think you meant the other way...

A rectangle is a square but a square isn't a rectangle.


The Rectangle
A rectangle is a parallelogram whose sides intersect at 90° angles. Now, since a rectangle is a parallelogram, its opposite sides must be congruent.
The Square
A square is also a parallelogram whose sides intersect at 90° angles. Therefore, like a rectangle its opposite sides are congruent. However, a square has an added feature. It is also a rhombus. Therefore, all of its sides are congruent.
A rectangle is a square when both pairs of opposite sides are the same length. This means that a square is a specialized case of the rectangle and is indeed a rectangle.
What extra properties does the square have? Well, the only difference is that a square is also a rhombus so the square has all the properties of a rhombs while a rectangle does not.

http://www.mathwarehouse.com/g...ams/is_square_rectangle.php

so a rectangle is a square when the sides are equal. So a Square is a Rectangle, but a Rectangle is not necessarily a square.

TheLegendOfMart said,
HTC phones are horrible looking
in YOUR opinion...right? Bec I thought the Droid Incredible (original one) the HTC Evo and the HTC One all look very good. Even the Droid DNA looks very nice as I considered it vs my Galaxy Note 2...but i chose the Note bec I have learned a very good lkesson from APple. Form over function leads to more buyer regret. I am not trying ot be part of the "in" crowd. I am part of the crowd who is smarter, safer and more agile.

TechieXP said,
in YOUR opinion...right? Bec I thought the Droid Incredible (original one) the HTC Evo and the HTC One all look very good. Even the Droid DNA looks very nice as I considered it vs my Galaxy Note 2...but i chose the Note bec I have learned a very good lkesson from APple. Form over function leads to more buyer regret. I am not trying ot be part of the "in" crowd. I am part of the crowd who is smarter, safer and more agile.

why does one have to point out that it's "your opinion" when someone states what they think about something. obviously they know this already.

mclaren2 said,
so given the pics are legit, it looks just as **** as the s3....

I guess the 40+ million people out there have **** looking phones. Or it could be that a lot of people prefer functionality over minor design issues.

techbeck said,

I guess the 40+ million people out there have **** looking phones. Or it could be that a lot of people prefer functionality over minor design issues.

The S3 doesn't really do anything else that the rest of the Android phones can't do. Unless I'm missing something

Rudy said,
The S3 doesn't really do anything else that the rest of the Android phones can't do. Unless I'm missing something

True, but that was not what I was talking about or replying to.

techbeck said,

I guess the 40+ million people out there have **** looking phones. Or it could be that a lot of people prefer functionality over minor design issues.


I guess you haven't heard, 40+ million people can be sold a piece of junk if its discounted on a 3 year contract, and don't realize until later what a POS it is. And as for function, what function? Scamsung's bastardized implementation of Android with their TouchWiz? Try picking up and using a Nexus 4, now THERE is a good Android phone, both FUNCTION and FORM! Oh, and it's pure Android, and will always be the front runner for getting updates first. How far behind is your precious SGS3 for receiving 4.2.2?


I guess you haven't heard, 40+ million people can be sold a piece of junk if its discounted on a 3 year contract, and don't realize until later what a POS it is.

Yea, if hte SGS3 was that bad it wouldnt of sold 40+ million so far. With the internet and reviews/problems being posted live as they happen/found out...if the SGS3 was crap then people would stop buying it. Reviews/problems/whatever is publically available. Its not like its the 90's again.



And as for function, what function? Scamsung's bastardized implementation of Android with their TouchWiz? Try picking up and using a Nexus 4, now THERE is a good Android phone, both FUNCTION and FORM! Oh, and it's pure Android, and will always be the front runner for getting updates first. How far behind is your precious SGS3 for receiving 4.2.2?

Functionality in general. Lots of people will pick how something looks over what the product can do. And I do not have an SGS3. Where did I say I own it? Your "precious" comment is invalid and irrelevant.

I know several who have the SGS3, however,and they all love it. I even had the opportinuty to use one for a couple of days. And BTW, the SGS3 can do whatever the Nexus 4 can (baring OS differences and minor hardware) so not sure what you are getting at. And if you root both phones, they can do even more.

4.2.2 was released Feb 11th. So you expect more phones to get the OS now outside of the Nexus devices? You said it yourself, Samsung adds Touchwiz...and others mod the UI as well. Because of this, it takes longer for some OEMs to come out with an update.

And for the record, I won a GNEX.

All this over an opinion. I think it looks stupid too, hell even my GSIII friends agree. They just like the screen size and get a case that makes it irrelevant otherwise.

I personally like the flip cover cases for the GSIII. Makes it look more professional and doesn't add all the extra bulk.

Rudy said,
The S3 doesn't really do anything else that the rest of the Android phones can't do. Unless I'm missing something

*Shock* *Horror* You're right, Jim! It can make PHONE CALLS!
Who would have thought?

-=MagMan=- said,

I guess you haven't heard, 40+ million people can be sold a piece of junk if its discounted on a 3 year contract, and don't realize until later what a POS it is. And as for function, what function? Scamsung's bastardized implementation of Android with their TouchWiz? Try picking up and using a Nexus 4, now THERE is a good Android phone, both FUNCTION and FORM! Oh, and it's pure Android, and will always be the front runner for getting updates first. How far behind is your precious SGS3 for receiving 4.2.2?

Yeah like an iPhone 4S that is rebranded as the iPhone 5 with a bigger shell? Oh wait...how about the iPhone 4, being rebranded as the iPhone 4S...same size just a redone antenna? Yeah everyone can sell crap, but at least Samsung gives you more and doesnt overcharge or over hype you with it.