Intel: Windows 8 being launched before it's ready

According to a report by Bloomberg, Intel's CEO, Paul S. Otellini, has stated to staff in Taiwan that Windows 8 is being released before it's fully ready. The comment comes at a particularly vulnerable time as Microsoft is getting ready to launch Windows 8 to the general public on October 26th. 

Otellini is stated as saying that improvements still need to be made to Windows 8 but Microsoft will be able to do them after the product ships. According to the report: "'Improvements still need to be made to the software'", Otellini told employees at a company meeting in Taipei today, said the person, who asked not to be identified because the meeting was private"

Otellini also says that it is the correct move for Microsoft to push the product before it's fully complete by stating: "'Releasing the operating system before it’s fully baked is the right move, and Microsoft can make improvements after it ships,' Otellini told staffers".

For Microsoft, Windows 8 is a departure from it's previous operating systems that included a Start button in the lower left-hand corner. Replacing the traditional start menu is a new Start screen that makes use of hot corners and a charms bar for quick navigation.

The blended hybrid OS is a bold move for Microsoft as the company transitions into the new modern design language (formerly called Metro) across all of its products. If Otellini's comments hold true, it could be a damaging PR blow before the product becomes available to consumers.

Windows 8 hit RTM earlier this Summer and Neowin has been using the OS since early August. So far, the OS feels stable and has it's own unique advantages. Our full review of the OS will be out in the coming weeks before the product ships.

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Irrelevant. No software is ever ready; The release of software (and more and more so for anything) has more to do with maintenance/R&D costs and/or marketing strategies than anything.

Every OS releases with thousands of bugs. This is normal. An OS can never be perfect at the moment of release, it's simply good enough to be considered stable, fast and secure. Subsequent patches fix the remaining bugs, but no OS is ever bug-free. After 10 years, even XP or OS X aren't bug free yet.

Interesting story but doesn't affect me in the slightest..
staying with windows 7 and it works precisely how i want it too
aside from some custom stuff i did to make it work for me.
8 ready ? for what its not like they will listen to customers and change anything..
they will do what THEY want and YOU will take it and LIKE it or else !

I could probably come up with dozens of reasons why i think win 8 is worse than 7
such as no aero, mixed icons, flat windows, bad themes, metro cr'apps, no start menu, ribbon crap.. its all a vortex of idiotic crap i would have to kill on a fresh install and there is already enough dumb garbage i have to kill on a fresh win7 install.
my aida64 sensor panel i made from scratch tells me i don't need no moronic flashing kiddy tile crap ..I'm using a computer not a bloody iPhone !

I'm not upgrading to Windows 8. I'll be upgrading to Windows 9. I feel Windows 8 is to Windows Vista what Windows 9 is to Windows 7.

Of course it is being released as soon as possible. Every time someone buys another tablet its a missed opportunity for MS. MS must have something available for the christmas holiday shopping season and this is what they are focused on at all costs. (The same goes for Windows Phone 8)

You know that Win RT tablets will not ship with the final version of the RT Office suite? Office will be updated some time after shipping.

I've noticed on IE10 (desktop version and metro version) trying to go back 1 page using the back button, alt left arrow, or backspace on the keyboard, doesn't really work very well. It causes the current page you're on to reload instead of going back. Here's hoping for a hotfix on that.

What is with Microsoft's obsession to release Windows-8 before it is really ready? It is bad enough that MS has forsaken laptop and desktop users for tablet users; but to put out a half-bakes OS is inexcusable. Windows-7 will be around for a very long time.

TsarNikky said,
What is with Microsoft's obsession to release Windows-8 before it is really ready? It is bad enough that MS has forsaken laptop and desktop users for tablet users; but to put out a half-bakes OS is inexcusable. Windows-7 will be around for a very long time.

When did Microsoft forsake desktop users?

Dot Matrix said,
When did Microsoft forsake desktop users?

When they released a new tablet OS baked inside of the windows we all love to hate without adding new desktop oriented features like storage spaces, etc.

You know haters.

I use Win8 every day. I added quick shutdown and restart shortcuts to the start menu and everything else works great.

Gnome said,
I use Win8 every day. I added quick shutdown and restart shortcuts to the start menu and everything else works great.

I did the same thing, a tile that launched shutdown.exe. It kind of perplexed me that there wasn't at least a "Restart" tile.

That was until I realized that I could lose a tile and still get to those options easily using Settings on the Charms bar.

thomastmc said,

I did the same thing, a tile that launched shutdown.exe. It kind of perplexed me that there wasn't at least a "Restart" tile.

That was until I realized that I could lose a tile and still get to those options easily using Settings on the Charms bar.

Yes, Easy and quick access to a restart tile will be important on Windows 8.

Windows 8 for panicky people quick lesson:

From the home screen, right click on your apps that you would like to pin to the taskbar on the desktop. THEN STAY IN THE DESKTOP.

For the rest of us, move ahead with progress, everyone else can stay back in desktop land, the future will be one click away.

Toysoldier: "Windows 8 is launching before Intel is ready." - love that...

jimmyfal said,

For the rest of us, move ahead with progress, everyone else can stay back in desktop land, the future will be one click away.

This is why I love coming to Neowin, the fanboys always make my day by telling the best jokes.

They're right, insofar as the default apps, which are heavy on ads and light on features.

Just look at the Mail app - the live tile is conceptually awesome and useful, but the app as a whole is too stupid to handle something like folder structures in an existing IMAP account.

It's actually pretty smart to just develop a rich foundation, and then let it evolve and mature organically over time.

I've really only been truly happy with three of all of the Windows releases, 2000, 7, 8. The desktop side of Windows 8 is the most mature, polished, and best perfoming Windows release ever.

Wait until when?
Define "ready". Ten years from now, I'm sure it would be extremely ready. But at what cost?

Just release it. Fixes can be made later. Nuff said.

I think all these improvements people want probably wont be happening until Windows 9 if they ever happen. we'll probably just get like security updates and stuff like that

Agree. After RTM, it is done.

If people want to get interface fixes, they'll have to buy new product. Like Microsoft always does.

.Neo said,
The big question being how much Microsoft will actually improve in free updates.

Simple, the 'free' updates will be included in Windows 9.

What I mean is releasing a product that is a long way from the final vision because they feel they need it to be in the marketplace to get it right.

They know they can get away with it since there is no competitor that can eclipse Windows on the desktop any time soon, just like Apple know their brand loyalty is enough of a protector in their case.

I'm not saying Windows 8 is remotely as bad as iOS Maps, but it's nowhere near as polished an RTM as 7.

singularity87 said,
I'm not saying Windows 8 is remotely as bad as iOS Maps, but it's nowhere near as polished an RTM as 7.

That's because Win7 is really Vista SE.
That's the dirty secret Vista haters ignore.

torrentthief said,
I just want Win 7 SP2, i'm skipping windows 8 for many reasons, so many clicks needed to perform simple tasks compared to win7.

I'm with you--sticking with Windows-7, as I use both a laptop and desktop. If I ever spend the money for a tablet, I guess I'll be stuck with Windows-8.

Toysoldier - that's my take on it as well. Jimmy422 - Notice that all the apps you are complaining about revolve around a not-even-1.0 API - WinRT. In order to displace a Win32 application, a WinRT application must be not only better than the application it seeks to replace, it must be at least as stable; so far, a mere two WinRT applications have met that test; AccuWeather (replaced AWS Weatherbug) and MetroTwit (replacing HootSuite).

From the title of the article, I thought he was criticizing Windows 8... but he says that Microsoft is making the right move.

This is what always happens. They ship a product, then continue to work on it to improve it and release updates and service packs.

Don't spoil it, we are going to figure out who reads the post and who only reads the headlines before making a comment.

bdsams said,
Don't spoil it, we are going to figure out who reads the post and who only reads the headlines before making a comment.

Toysoldier definitely didn't.

rfirth said,
From the title of the article, I thought he was criticizing Windows 8... but he says that Microsoft is making the right move.

This is what always happens. They ship a product, then continue to work on it to improve it and release updates and service packs.


I was thinking the same thing...

bdsams said,
Don't spoil it, we are going to figure out who reads the post and who only reads the headlines before making a comment.

And the ones who get it "wrong" are clearly "idiots".

I'm going to have to agree. Not because of the Metro UI or the lack of a start button or all the other stuff that everyone seems to complain about, but the fact that it's just not polished. At all. I've been using the RTM for about a month on my tablet and it's starting to show how rushed it is.

A bunch of built in applications (Bing, Weather, News, Mail) will either randomly close or not go past the splash screen. The system will randomly hang at points. The app store will tell me I have updates but then tell me that everything is up to date when opened. And to top it off, there's still a ton of bits left over from the Vista / 7 UI that could have easily been replaced (Vista gradient in Windows Firewall dialogs, Vista/7 style file progress bar when emptying the recycling bin, the list goes on...)

Not to mention the desktop UI was butchered at the last minute. Transparent taskbar but no transparency on active window borders...why?

I'm really hoping for a last minute patch before consumers get their hands on it. It's a fine OS otherwise, the metro start screen is GREAT and I have a hard time using Windows 7 on my tablet anymore. It just needs a lot of shine since they obviously rushed it to OEMs.

Jimmy422 said,

Not to mention the desktop UI was butchered at the last minute. Transparent taskbar but no transparency on active window borders...why?

I'm really hoping for a last minute patch before consumers get their hands on it.

1st. Agreed. And Let's not forget that places like Devices and Printers, and Programs and Features, display a blue bar below the programs when it should have been white.

2nd. It's likely to come with Windows 8.1

It does seem a very rushed release with not as much polish as you'd expect, it breaks my multi-monitor support which worked fine under 7 SP1

thealexweb said,
It does seem a very rushed release with not as much polish as you'd expect, it breaks my multi-monitor support which worked fine under 7 SP1

If you look at it historically. There was 95 - utter crap by today's standards in terms of quality, but a ground breaking product. 98 made it better (never mind ME). Then the next major thing was 2000. NT stability at last, but not much else. Then came XP which took all the glory. Then there was Vista which got a lot of deserved and undeserved bad press, but let's face it - 7 was based on most of the work done for Vista, only done better. So in a way I feel 8 will repeat that trend. I'm sure 9 will be a great product, but 8? Let's see.

Breach said,

If you look at it historically. There was 95 - utter crap by today's standards in terms of quality, but a ground breaking product. 98 made it better (never mind ME). Then the next major thing was 2000. NT stability at last, but not much else. Then came XP which took all the glory. Then there was Vista which got a lot of deserved and undeserved bad press, but let's face it - 7 was based on most of the work done for Vista, only done better. So in a way I feel 8 will repeat that trend. I'm sure 9 will be a great product, but 8? Let's see.

I liked Windows Me D: I used it for four years, longer than any other version of Windows

Breach said,

If you look at it historically. There was 95 - utter crap by today's standards in terms of quality, but a ground breaking product. 98 made it better (never mind ME). Then the next major thing was 2000. NT stability at last, but not much else. Then came XP which took all the glory. Then there was Vista which got a lot of deserved and undeserved bad press, but let's face it - 7 was based on most of the work done for Vista, only done better. So in a way I feel 8 will repeat that trend. I'm sure 9 will be a great product, but 8? Let's see.

Windows XP was a ****ing nightmare when it was released, it had the same kind of problems as Vista because most of the consumer stuff was tailored towards the 9x kernel and a lot of drivers were never made or hacked together from Windows 2000 ones.

Also the Windows 95 thing from memory is slightly backwards. We had Windows 95, then we had the B/C versions that improved it, especially when USB 1.0 came on to the scene, then we had Windows 98 which had some serious issues which made Microsoft release Windows 98SE as a separate product and that made it great.

I guess we'll have it like Windows 95 and then Windows 9 will be like Windows 98/98SE which fixes and polishes the product off.

thealexweb said,
It does seem a very rushed release with not as much polish as you'd expect, it breaks my multi-monitor support which worked fine under 7 SP1

I wouldn't blame the Multi monitor support on Windows 8 but on the drivers that need updating.

nickcruz said,

I wouldn't blame the Multi monitor support on Windows 8 but on the drivers that need updating.

Multimonitor support is actually allot better in Win8 compared to Win7.

Shadowzz said,

Multimonitor support is actually allot better in Win8 compared to Win7.

Not better if some of us can't get it to work at all

Shadowzz said,

Multimonitor support is actually allot better in Win8 compared to Win7.

I agree. The Devices section in the Charms Bar makes it ridiculously convenient and easy, especially when I travel around to various conference rooms with a laptop and need to give presentations.

I personally think that MIcrosoft are taking a risk with 8. Given that it's such a major departure from the tradition they should have polished it a bit more. Hope they did their focus group testing and don't pull an iMaps fiasco. Then again, what does ready mean...? Ready to sell? Stable? Mature? Usable? Let's see how things play out. In a way I feel it will be another Vista story - not a bad story mind you, just something which will get on the level in 9.