Internet Explorer 9 build reveals new download manager

An early Internet Explorer 9 build has revealed a new download manager for Microsoft's popular web browser.

Screenshots of the build leaked to Chinese website Cnbeta earlier this week. The screenshots reveal a download manager for pausing and canceling downloads, a new icon for Internet Explorer 9 and what appears to be greater security control of add-ons. The new features are an early look at what features Microsoft is planning for the first beta of Internet Explorer 9. The screenshots do not reveal any UI changes apart from what appears to be a new icon. Neowin has independently verified the screenshots and we can confirm these are genuine and from a build distributed to internal and external partners.

Microsoft originally unveiled Internet Explorer 9 at PDC 2009. IE 9 will take advantage of the power of the GPU for all page rendering and developers can exploit this using CSS, DHTML and javascript. A new JS engine (codenamed Chakra) will also be built into Internet Explorer 9 with greater interoperability and standards support all round. Features such as rounded corner CSS support will be built in. In January, Neowin revealed that Microsoft is planning to enhance tabbed browsing in IE9. According to a software patent, the Quick Tabs feature in Internet Explorer is likely to be enhanced with better functionality and greater tab management options.

Microsoft is also planning broader support for HTML5 in Internet Explorer 9 through its new script engine. Microsoft recently performed W3C Web Standards tests on IE9, including HTML5, SVG 1.1 2nd edition, CSS3 media queries, CSS3 borders & backgrounds, CSS3 selectors, DOM level 3 core, DOM level 3 events and DOM level 2 style. Microsoft, with the help of W3C, performed a total of 192 tests on a variety of browsers. Internet Explorer 9 scored 100% in all eight tests, while every other browser, except Firefox in DOM level 2 style tests, didn't score perfect in any of the test categories.

Microsoft originally began scouting for Internet Explorer 9 beta testers in March. In an email to testers, Justin Saint Clair - Program Manager of Internet Explorer invited testers to join a "select group of IE9 Tech Feedback participants." Neowin understands that Microsoft will introduce a beta of Internet Explorer 9 in early September.

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LaP- iSpell works just dandy in IE and has as long as I can remember.
RenegadeJr - I agree I hate them. I've only a few times ever needed one and If i do install one I tend to uninstall it a few days later. Just gets in my way.
I could give a rat's behind about any "new" feature other then say the GPU rendering and a faster javascript render engine. What I want is a webpage I make to look the same in IE and all other majors without the need of hacks. Before I get flames, it's not really MS's fault but the fault of the css standard but still. MS claims the way "they" implemented it [or my pal who works for ms in the ie dept [now moved to MediaCenter]] is the correct way and everyone else is wrong 99.9999% of the time as long as I follow true standards they look fine. But every now and then MS is a pixel off and 1 pixel is huge lol. Seriously it is a lot bigger than it sounds. But I digress. I'm all for faster, safer, more features that I most likely will never use, but for gods sake even if "they" are doing it wrong, then follow suite and do it wrong as long as it passes standars and displays the same freaking way then it's not wrong is it .

Now i must sleep.

About time seriously.

There's still some features missing from IE that could make me switch from Firefox like integrated spell checker but IE 9 looks really good so far.

cant wait till its out .. hehe made me giggle when i saw they dl a dmg file, can it be used on windows? (thinks its a iso-ish file?)

expect IE9 to have new UI design and other stuff,but if doesn't have while that's just not cool

Again,can't they just make IE 9 Work more smoothly since it's their own browser living insides in the very own operating system..Indeed (Curious)

somehow i never seem to like the big "Favorites" button on the left and the menu on the right. They seem to be cramping up the tabs contained within them - Bad Bad Design I would say

I don't get the fuss about download managers either. I actively prefer the way IE does it over the other browsers since it reminds me I was actually doing something.

And there have been IE add-ons that have provided a download manager facility for a long long time.

DonC said,
I don't get the fuss about download managers either. I actively prefer the way IE does it over the other browsers since it reminds me I was actually doing something.

And there have been IE add-ons that have provided a download manager facility for a long long time.


That and firefox lacks a proper 'run' option like IE comes default.
Chrome just automaticly allows a whole variety of file types to download without any confirmation...

IE downloading ftw!

My guess is that these are:
A. Fake
or B. An old build from early this summer. Considering that MS has stated that the UI would be overhauled, there is no way that this is the final beta build.

Ci7 said,
they are still backward.

chrome/Firefox ditched separate download manager windows

well I'm running the latest nightly of minefield and there is still a separate download manager window!

it annoys the hell outta me. I'd rather have it in a separate special tab or something

Mouettus said,

well I'm running the latest nightly of minefield and there is still a separate download manager window!

it annoys the hell outta me. I'd rather have it in a separate special tab or something

it is planned feature for Version 4
most of the minefield "windows dialog" become Notification (e.g addon ,password manager )

Maybe because the build is older than any of the preview builds we get... Maybe because it came from such an early part in the process that they couldn't do it all overnight like you want them to... By now, it probably looks very different from back then when this build was compiled, and it will continue changing until RTM.

Don't judge it. Did we judge you when you were in an embryo by calling you too small to make a difference in the world? This is way too early for you to judge.

Has Opera asked for a browser ballot screen to be included with IE9 yet? Because when you upgrade IE manually, it's unfair to other browser makers. I'm sure it won't be long before Opera demands that a box pop up during the install asking: "Are you sure you want to install Internet Explorer 9? Here are a selection of other browsers that you might want to install instead. If you go ahead and install IE, you will be REQUIRED to install another browser as well (please pick Opera!) for competitive purposes." With a link to each browser underneath.

Really, it can't be long before this happens.

Lamerz4391 said,
Has Opera asked for a browser ballot screen to be included with IE9 yet? Because when you upgrade IE manually, it's unfair to other browser makers. I'm sure it won't be long before Opera demands that a box pop up during the install asking: "Are you sure you want to install Internet Explorer 9? Here are a selection of other browsers that you might want to install instead. If you go ahead and install IE, you will be REQUIRED to install another browser as well (please pick Opera!) for competitive purposes." With a link to each browser underneath.

Really, it can't be long before this happens.

You forgot your sarcasm tags.

Excitement about a download manager is something I can not muster. Unless they do something amazing like somehow still allow downloading while offline, there really isn't much a download manager can tack on that will impress me any further.

Not a fan of Download Manager windows a la Firefox. I hope they come up with a streamlined, non-intrusive way to handle downloads and also not lose the ability to just immediately run/open downloaded executables instead of saving them. I always have to get a Firefox addon to replicate this IE functionality.

burnblue said,
Not a fan of Download Manager windows a la Firefox. I hope they come up with a streamlined, non-intrusive way to handle downloads and also not lose the ability to just immediately run/open downloaded executables instead of saving them. I always have to get a Firefox addon to replicate this IE functionality.

Has the Firefox download manager ever worked? I've never seen the resume function actually resume a download.

TRC said,

Has the Firefox download manager ever worked? I've never seen the resume function actually resume a download.

Me neither. I thought that download manager sucked butt, what was the point in something that prevented you from closing all browser windows and also didn't do what it was supposed to do...resume downloads...

Electric Jolt said,

Me neither. I thought that download manager sucked butt, what was the point in something that prevented you from closing all browser windows and also didn't do what it was supposed to do...resume downloads...


ye, even if you close all other windows, FF still stays running fully just to display the downloads window -.-

Logo is not much changed, but looks cool.

But IE9 is still behind, it still lacks full extensions with a gallery and theme support. And needs a new UI! Every other browser has gotten one.

But glad they have a download manager now, it was annoying when you had loads of downloads in IE and it has countless pop-ups.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Logo is not much changed, but looks cool.

But IE9 is still behind, it still lacks full extensions with a gallery and theme support. And needs a new UI! Every other browser has gotten one.

But glad they have a download manager now, it was annoying when you had loads of downloads in IE and it has countless pop-ups.


IE themes go with windows as its part of windows.
With the win7 taskbar, the loads of downloads windows is pretty much solved aswell

My suggestions for IE9:
- Re-designed UX (clean like Chrome/Firefox 4)
- Activity Window (like Safari and Firebug)

It is about time... geez. I was just complaining to my friends about this the other day. One thing though is that MS is always in a tricky spot when it come sto adding features to any of there already free or pre installed apps. Many companies cry wolf regarding monopolistic behavior. Of course in this day and age of braodband or at least regions that have the faster download times, it should not be relevant. However, they have to watch out. But I'm glad they are finally doing it... I hope they make it as a module, because plugins are better so you can swap it out for other options.

If Microsoft plans to set IE9 apart from past versions and actually entice people to use it, the UI better be changing as well. Didn't we already confirm that there will be a completely re-designed theme?

Kreuger said,
How come the time remaining is in Chinese and the rest is in English?

Because it's the English build. They'll pick up the local time format from Windows regional settings.

TRC said,
My car starts 7 times out of 10. Good enough for me.

Since HTML5 isn't a official standard at the moment you need to say...my car flies 7 times out of 10...

TRC said,
My car starts 7 times out of 10. Good enough for me.

That...that metaphor makes no sense. T_T It doesn't even apply. It'd be more appropriate to say something like "My cake bakes to 83% fluffiness."

bluefisch200 said,

Since HTML5 isn't a official standard at the moment you need to say...my car flies 7 times out of 10...

If it's supported by Safari, Firefox and Google Chrome, I'd say it's pretty official.

Xeon said,

If it's supported by Safari, Firefox and Google Chrome, I'd say it's pretty official.

It's hard for it to be fully supported and official when many of it's parts are still being worked out and debated over

The iWork trial download probably references the fact that IE on Mac had a download manager while the Windows one still hasn't.

I'm just waiting on a beta release of this because I'm starting to experience freezing and crashing on firefox now and I always liked internet explorer until 8 was released.

Biglo said,
I'm just waiting on a beta release of this because I'm starting to experience freezing and crashing on firefox now and I always liked internet explorer until 8 was released.

have you updated your firefox to the latest beta?! Very stable for me. so much that I'm using it as my main browser now.

what's wrong with IE8 vs IE7 or older versions?

Mouettus said,

have you updated your firefox to the latest beta?! Very stable for me. so much that I'm using it as my main browser now.

what's wrong with IE8 vs IE7 or older versions?

The main problem that I'm having with IE8 is random crashing and freezing aswell which gets on my nerves.

Biglo said,

The main problem that I'm having with IE8 is random crashing and freezing aswell which gets on my nerves.

Are you sure you haven't got malware messing you up?

Roadrunna said,

Are you sure you haven't got malware messing you up?

Yeah I'm sure its just internet explorer. I seen people with brand new computers running windows 7 and use internet explorer and it just stops responding sometimes and ask you to wait or close (waiting is just a waste of time because it would just stay white and ask you the same thing again)

Biglo said,

Yeah I'm sure its just internet explorer. I seen people with brand new computers running windows 7 and use internet explorer and it just stops responding sometimes and ask you to wait or close (waiting is just a waste of time because it would just stay white and ask you the same thing again)

Sorry to break the bad news...But I use IE8 and it rarely crashes. Along with the all the other millions of people using IE8 everyday, I'm sure they would've switched by now and/or it would've been addressed by Microsoft.

Biglo said,
I'm just waiting on a beta release of this because I'm starting to experience freezing and crashing on firefox now and I always liked internet explorer until 8 was released.

Generally speaking, a piece of software that works fine doesn't suddenly start freezing one day unless something has changed. Odds are it's either an addon, malware, or something else running while you're using IE. It can't simply be IE itself, since many, many people have no issues with it randomly crashing. Troubleshoot more deeply, or else you'll just get angry at IE9 when it starts giving you grief, too.

Biglo said,

Yeah I'm sure its just internet explorer. I seen people with brand new computers running windows 7 and use internet explorer and it just stops responding sometimes and ask you to wait or close (waiting is just a waste of time because it would just stay white and ask you the same thing again)

Um, people with new computers doesn't mean anything, in fact should discredit your assumption.

Most new systems have a ton of "$" supported crap loaded in the system, which OFTEN includes IE add-ons, especially toolbars, and anti-virus add-ons that are NOT needed.

The only 'consistent' crash associated with IE8 is Flash related, again, an add-on that many people need, but is flash or flash apps being buggy. IE8 does a better job of protecting users from things like Flash, but at the peril of it having to just shut Flash down and restart IE8 as well with a crash. (Flash or a Flash app starts gobbling RAM or OS objects, IE contains it so that other applications can't be affected or even stalled, but IE itself will eventually crash or restart due to the low memory or GDI/object state.)

So IE8 kind of sucks that it will be more goofy running Farmville for example, but it also insulates Farmville (running in Flash) from the rest of the OS and other applications.

Next time you use IE, use the add-on manager and remove anything that is non-Microsoft or a toolbar, and notice if it still crashes, the page probably has Flash content. (You can also disable/uninstall Flash, or just be happy IE8 is crashing rather than letting Flash run unfettered.)


Electric Jolt said,

Sorry to break the bad news...But I use IE8 and it rarely crashes. Along with the all the other millions of people using IE8 everyday, I'm sure they would've switched by now and/or it would've been addressed by Microsoft.


if in IE8 **** hits the fan, its a seperate tab.
As IE8 has seperate processes per tab, i never had the overlaying process crash on me

They aren't fake IMO. It's exactly what I'd expect MS to go forward given what other browsers have been using for at least the last 2 years.

Plus I trust Tom Warren's opinion far more than Softpedia's

I am so glad that these are fake. I really don't like download managers that have their own window. I much prefer it when they care just a separate tab.

Theses are fake, and this article needs to be declared as such, unless the IEteam is really going backwards, standards wise.

Haven't these already been declared fake?

Also those HTML5 tests that were performed were rubbished, Microsoft compared their latest Alpha against the competitors stables, yeh that sounds fair.

thealexweb said,
Haven't these already been declared fake?

Pretty sure the screenshots were declared fake. Either way, not a fan of download managers. I like the old school download windows.

They were declared fake by Softpedia who were just assuming they were fake due to the lack of UI. They appear to be a very early build. I can't immediately verify either way.

Tom W said,
They were declared fake by Softpedia who were just assuming they were fake due to the lack of UI. They appear to be a very early build. I can't immediately verify either way.

But it's showing a lower ACID score than all the developer previews. Why would they have gone backwards?

GreyWolf said,

But it's showing a lower ACID score than all the developer previews. Why would they have gone backwards?


The build is a cobbled together mash of what their working on. It doesn't represent what the current state is but was distributed internally and externally for teams to test against IE9 etc.

Edited by tomwarren, Jul 29 2010, 3:34pm :

GreyWolf said,

But it's showing a lower ACID score than all the developer previews. Why would they have gone backwards?


Regressions in the build? It's pretty common in unpolished builds of... uh, well, software in general.

Tom W said,

The build is a cobbled together mash of what their working on. It doesn't represent what the current state is but was distributed internally and externally for teams to test against IE9 etc.

That's true. I guess the UI team doesn't need the same engine builds as the engine time as long as the programming interface is concrete now.

Tom W said,

The build is a cobbled together mash of what their working on. It doesn't represent what the current state is but was distributed internally and externally for teams to test against IE9 etc.

Yep. It's a fake

Tom W said,

The build is a cobbled together mash of what their working on. It doesn't represent what the current state is but was distributed internally and externally for teams to test against IE9 etc.

Could be that the rendering engine is on a different branch from the UI branch.

TomJones said,

Could be that the rendering engine is on a different branch from the UI branch.

Well if anyone takes time to watch any of the channel9 IE9 team video or read about IE9, they would know that IE9 is very layered from the network access and each level of parsing all the way up to the final page render. They split off virtually every stage of page processing.

So ya, the UI is by nature very removed from the engine.

Earlier IE designs, going back to 4.0, also kept the UI and the rendering engine separate. IE was popular for developers because it was the more of an HTML engine that could be easily placed or used in any application for HTML reading/display rather than just being only a browser application. Also why it was 'integrated' in the OS, providing features developers could count on, just like APIs to draw Bitmaps or render a font on the screen.

This modularity helped make bypass Netscape at the time, and even after AOL aquired Netscape, their AOL client still had to use the IE engine for HTML browsing, because Netscape was not modular or designed to an HTML rendering engine only. (This is also why Netscape told Microsoft to go pound sand, at their own peril, when Microsoft wanted to use Netscape for the integrated HTML engine in Windows, which forced Microsoft to aquire another license and rebuild from there to create a developer accessible HTML engine.)

Borix said,

lol
hope ms will surprise us this time

Oh come on, they were the first major player to announce GPU acceleration. They will probably have the best implementation by far.

ObiWanToby said,

Oh come on, they were the first major player to announce GPU acceleration. They will probably have the best implementation by far.


To be fair, download management is much more important than GPU acceleration though. But it's good to see it finally sunk in.

ObiWanToby said,

Oh come on, they were the first major player to announce GPU acceleration. They will probably have the best implementation by far.


Well... Mozilla were investigating GPU rendering even before Microsoft announced it. However, Microsoft were the first to use it (then, about a month afterwards, Mozilla added it to their nightly builds).

I was talking about the download management. The download file dialog has been the same since ... probably IE3, but I wasnt sure so I'm implying IE5.

Northgrove said,

To be fair, download management is much more important than GPU acceleration though. But it's good to see it finally sunk in.

Background downloading is more important that a download manager. Start some browser downloads and then close Chrome, Safari, or Firefox? Can't do it. Have to keep a full browser open. IE is still superior when it comes to downloading. This will only make the kiddies who play with mozilla's kludgy downloads more comfortable.

Meph said,

Well... Mozilla were investigating GPU rendering even before Microsoft announced it. However, Microsoft were the first to use it (then, about a month afterwards, Mozilla added it to their nightly builds).

except it is turned off by default in Firefox nightly (minefield)

i bet MS will release first

Northgrove said,

To be fair, download management is much more important than GPU acceleration though. But it's good to see it finally sunk in.

I think it's the other way around.

Northgrove said,

To be fair, download management is much more important than GPU acceleration though. But it's good to see it finally sunk in.

I think it's the other way around.

Northgrove said,

To be fair, download management is much more important than GPU acceleration though. But it's good to see it finally sunk in.

it was important with dialup, but with high speed broadband not so much.

MorganX said,

Background downloading is more important that a download manager. Start some browser downloads and then close Chrome, Safari, or Firefox? Can't do it. Have to keep a full browser open. IE is still superior when it comes to downloading. This will only make the kiddies who play with mozilla's kludgy downloads more comfortable.


Firefox has it's downloads in a separate windows so you can close the rest, having one window for all downloads rather than one for each as current IE must be better don't you think?

ObiWanToby said,

Oh come on, they were the first major player to announce GPU acceleration. They will probably have the best implementation by far.

Big deal. Without GPU acc. they (again) be the turtle of the pack

Meph said,

Well... Mozilla were investigating GPU rendering even before Microsoft announced it. However, Microsoft were the first to use it (then, about a month afterwards, Mozilla added it to their nightly builds).

Really? Mozilla was investigating GPU rendering using Microsoft technology before Microsoft? How do you figure this is possible?

Mozilla's Direct2D is an upper layer rendering acceleration in contrast to the IE9 browser being designed around GPU acceleration at several levels, with Direct2D also doing the final layer rendering - handed off to the WDDM.

Direct2D is a Microsoft technology that gives applications a lightweight entry to GPU acceleration without having to resort to OpenGL or full DirectX, which would abandon any OS layer drawing/control libraries.

Julius Caro said,
It only took them 12+ years

For a download manager?

Microsoft's concept with IE in the past, is that it should work with the OS instead of replicating things that the OS's UI can handle.

When you think about it, if you have five downloads, you have five dialog boxes accessible from the OS UI easily, and not something you need a specific download manager for. So in this way, Windows is already providing a somewhat less elegant, but functional download manager from the Explorer UI.

This is just like Tabs, everyone wanted Tabs, Tabs, Tabs... However, the way IE was designed and the way Windows works, IE has 'technically' had Tabs since 1996. Again IE used the OS UI, and the 'Tabs' were 'Buttons' on the taskbar, which is essentially and OS level 'tab' manager. Giving IE7/IE8 tabs didn't add functionality at all, it just pulled the 'tabs' from the Taskbar so that also now show inside IE.

(*I care less either way about tabs, but from an OS standpoint, they create additional problems with things like the Vista/Win7 thumbnails that have to talk to IE to get the 'tabs' to show them on the 'taskbar' with preview properly.)

The Win95/NT4 OS UI was designed to give all applications/pages their own 'button/tab', having an additional row of 'tabs/buttons' inside the browser is redundant on Windows, even today.

(*I do think a download manager is a good idea, because things like resume downloads will be far easier for basic users; however if poorly designed it could take over too much of what the users should be using Windows Explorer for instead.)