Microsoft isn't talking yet about its plans for used games on Xbox One

Today's reveal of the upcoming Xbox One game console by Microsoft certainly answered some questions about the long-rumored product - but one question that was not answered was the company's plans to support used games on the new console.

The company, in a Q&A on its Xbox Wire site, does acknowledge the issue but says simply, "We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We’ll have more details to share later." However, a Wired article states that, according to Microsoft, all Xbox One games will have to be installed on the console's hard drive, which ties in each game disc to the owner's Xbox Live account.

If an Xbox One game tied into one account is used on another one, Wired claimed that the owner of the second account will have to pay a fee to install the game on their Xbox One console. Microsoft's Xbox Support account on Twitter has since said that the article is wrong; responding to a customer query asking them to confirm that there would be no fee, Xbox Support said: "No fee, correct - and they just got that information wrong. As soon as we saw, we contacted them to correct it."

Playing used console games in the same way people can buy and play used DVDs or CDs may yet become a thing of the past when it comes to Xbox One, but unfortunately Microsoft doesn't yet appear to be ready to tackle that issue publicly.

A few months ago, GameStop spokesperson Matt Hodges said that their customers have told them that "the desire to purchase a next-generation console would be significantly diminished if new consoles were to prohibit playing pre-owned games." Let's hope Microsoft can come up with a way that can make all parties on this issue (gamers, retailers and game developers) happy. 

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dead.cell said,
^ And sometimes I buy a game because it's $6 and why the hell not?

Yeah that's the reason i own Torchlight. It was 5$ so like you said why the hell not lol.

Turned out to be actually better than Diablo 3 imo ...

LaP said,

Yeah that's the reason i own Torchlight. It was 5$ so like you said why the hell not lol.

Turned out to be actually better than Diablo 3 imo ...

and lets no forget the pack deals you get for new games.

CaptainBeno said,
Xbox One games will require a one-time activation code to use. Thank you I can pre order my PS4 now. Goodbye Microsoft

thank god,we don't have to put up with your guys fake whining anymore. double win

vcfan said,

thank god,we don't have to put up with your guys fake whining anymore. double win

Thank god, I won't have to pay to be in a game full of people like you.

Funny that Sony has not commented on this. Why? Because the developer have their hand in this. Guess what would happen to the console maker that doesn't follow their rules? No game.

DClark said,
Funny that Sony has not commented on this. Why? Because the developer have their hand in this. Guess what would happen to the console maker that doesn't follow their rules? No game.

So... wiiu?

SierraSonic said,
Thank god, I won't have to pay to be in a game full of people like you.

Yeah we pay to not be in a game full of people like you, its worth it for that reason alone

CaptainBeno said,
Xbox One games will require a one-time activation code to use. Thank you I can pre order my PS4 now. Goodbye Microsoft

You all have no idea what your talking about in the end this hurts you . Black ops 2 has over 300,000 people online I bet over 100,000 are used games if they keel this up you will be crying when it comes to match making not today but ITs going to hurt you in the end . So please go pay more to not play with anyone jokes on you

I would like to know more about Microsofts plans with the cloud, all they've seem to reveal is that it'll be intergrated into the new console.

You can't fall in love in the first place... Especially when there's PS4, and we already know that Xbox' name is One, because it's always ONE step behind.

Just take the smart option this time...

oh Yea, should this be allowed. I buy second hand Blu-Rays and theres is no system stopping me from playing them, why should this be for single player games. On online games i can understand.

THE_OBSERVER said,
oh Yea, should this be allowed. I buy second hand Blu-Rays and theres is no system stopping me from playing them, why should this be for single player games. On online games i can understand.
I'd like to change of what you said here and use non electronic items instead.

"I buy books, and there is no system to prevent me from sharing my books with friends, but I can understand this working with a deck of playing cards."

Why is it that all these companies could survive without constant sale of PHYSICAL product just fine for centuries, but all of a sudden no physical product means more money?

All this is, is a ploy to get more money for doing less, and everyone seems okay with just handing over the money, I bet this time around games will cost even more too.

Edited by SierraSonic, May 22 2013, 12:30am :

Can everyone please calm down....every time there's a rumor you haters appear magically like flies on bull****.

The reason Microsoft is keeping quiet on this is probably because its got an ace up its sleeve. They are probably building an in house digital marketplace for reselling and buying pre-owned games digitally, because the games will be tied to live accounts and will be downloaded to the hard drive anyway if you bought a disc copy. Microsoft themselves have stated that they don't want people to use the drive much to reduce noise whilst gaming and to reduce loading times.

I wouldn't be surprised if I went to buy a Xbox One (silly name) game from a retailer they would give me a credit card sized code, instead of a disk which end up getting scratched or damaged or even lost. Similar to how you add Microsoft points or renew a Xbox live membership.

This all ties in nicely with the reports that Microsoft is phasing out Microsoft points for real currency's. because they are developing a more robust digital marketplace. after all the Xbox is all about content.

Also I have a feeling a Xbox surface tablet will be announced soon too and not at E3 but at Microsoft's next surface event like late June maybe July( last year it was in June I believe).

Edited by Attiq, May 22 2013, 1:52am :

I think it is not the hardware / platform provider's prerogative to decide on the price of used / second hand games, but rather it should be the publisher who should decide how they want their titles to be used / recycled. They may decide on full MRP, fraction of MRP or make it free, it should be their decision. The market forces would help give them a direction as to what is the reasonable pricing model.

As for the hardware / platform providers (Microsoft / Sony), they should provide the ability for publishers to implement the pricing model for second hand games (game activation etc). They do not decide on the pricing.

Having said that, if that indeed turns out to be the case when Microsoft reveals the model for second hand games, I think it is premature to bash them based on limited information. For all we know, if publishers want this model, Sony would have no choice but follow them (after all platform providers would probably get a cut from each resale). This would be software based policy which could be enforced through software update and i am sure discussions are ongoing between publishers and Microsoft/Sony to come out with a balanced model. We just need to wait and watch or maybe try to influence the discussions with some healthy discussions on forums.

Unlike many, I'm not jumping down MS's throat re the resale issue because, quite simply, we don't know what their plans are.

However, if they decide to charge a "transfer fee" or similar for people who've bought second hand games, that is going to make a whole hell of a lot of people extremely angry, especially games retailers, and will almost certainly damage sales.

I honestly don't think MS are quite THAT stupid.

XBox One though.. Really? XBoner!

The fact you have the option to fully install the game to the HDD and then NOT use the disc anymore changes things. If you can just install it fully and then pass the disc around to anyone to do the same how do they stop piracy exactly? It's like you guys only see one side of the story but decide not to take everything into account.

If they tie the game to your account when you install it then if you DO want to play it at a friends house I'm sure they'll have a system in place to work with that. I bet you that it will deactivate your original install on your system unless the 2nd system, using a different account, doesn't pay a fee which the rumor said they will be given a option to do so on install.

If it works this way then you can't really pass your disc around to all your friends to just pirate because you own install will stop working I bet.

It seems this will only effect using the game on a different console where the live account its tied to isn't active, so heres what i think.....

install on your xbox one and anyone else in the house can play it so long as your profile is active on the box still (to cover the selling of consoles etc)
take it to your friends, sign in and all play it. When you leave and sign back into your own xbox the game wont work anymore on your friends (they will be asked if they want to buy it).
there will be some mechanism built into the interface to allow you to 'free up the game' and sell, then when you take it to a shop the disk can be checked to see if its tied still to an account, if not you get paid.


this seems the most logical and if so there is zero negative effect to users, but its still my guess work based of what i see the most logical outcome.

The market of used games hurts more the business than the piracy. However, to interchange games is legal while piracy is not. Conclusion :block or makes illegal to exchange games.

Microsoft should have never opened their mouth on this subject at all if they weren't ready to give details on how it would work.

If this feature is to allow for disc less play, fair enough, BUT they should give two options when installing, for the people that just want it installed so it's not using the disc drive.

Option 1 to install and link to account - requires no disc.
Option 2 to install and not link to the account - requires disc to start the game.

And the first option really wouldn't work unless the console required to be online 100% of the time.

How I'd like to see it, is the two options above, but also the ability to put the disc in a new console and if it's already linked to automatically unlink and relink to a new account/console.
That would allow for trading and resale of games, if that feature isn't added I can only conclude this was done for the publishers that wish to bleed ever unentitled cent out of their customers and not as a feature meant to benefit customers.

The ball is in Microsofts court on whether this console is anti-consumer and fails or pro and succeeds.

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