Microsoft testing Windows Phone 8 device with 768x768 resolution


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Server logs are fun to dig through and occasionally they shed a little light on unreleased products. While perusing through the Neowin logs we came across some information, while not all that revealing, does provide some hints about Windows Phone 8.

We were not surprised to see that our site has been viewed from one of these unreleased devices but what we had not seen previously, was the screen resolution of 768x768. The screen resolution is a bit odd as it is a square, not something you see every day in the land of smartphones.

There are a couple guesses that include: it is running on an early test device, an SDK, a Windows 8 Nook, really, the options are unlimited.  The resolution is a bit of an oddball as we don’t see that playing out all that well on a phone, but we could be wrong. Microsoft could also intentionally use an odd screen size like this to throw us off the trail, anything is possible at this point. 

Additionally, the hits, as you see below, are coming from Redmond and Bellevue which as you already know, is where Microsoft is headquartered.


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There is not much else to reveal at this time other than the small tidbits we see above. Windows Phone 8 is already being tested, this is nothing new, but the odd screen size does throw us a bit off course as to what device Microsoft is actually testing. 

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And you are certain the screen dimensions are 'accurate', how?

I can make a browser tell your server it was running on OS X called Safari for donkeys and has a screen resolution of 10000000 x 10000000 pixels.

What are your server's using to 'log' the screen resolution, and is it using an accurate call?

What DOM is referenced? Server side pull, or an older AJAX type Javascript return, or a newer HTML5 technique?

Also is there is any 'secondary' check to see if the information reported is accurate, as it could just be a bug/flaw in an IE10 build that is not providing the information you are expecting?

Calling it a real device, although completely possible, doesn't have much merit based on the information provided.

Depending on how the server is pulling this data, it could literally be an IE10 control on WP8 that is embedded at a fixed square resolution, and is NOT capable of providing the 'screen resolution'.

I would go with a live tile. Now you can pin webpages to your homescreen and see actual results, although in tile form, they may be hard to make out.

I thought i read somewhere about a double sided smartphone. One less powered screen and the main screen.

I am sure they tried this with laptops where you would have a small screen on the lid of the laptop for reporting how many emails etc you had. SideShow or something like that. Maybe they are implementing this into Windows Phone 8?

Skyhawker said,
How about a watch?
Microsoft tried that and realised that nobody wants a "smart" watch that needs to be recharged every day or two. Heck, most people I know don't wear a watch but check the time on their mobile.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Microsoft tried that and realised that nobody wants a "smart" watch that needs to be recharged every day or two. Heck, most people I know don't wear a watch but check the time on their mobile.

Really?! I guess the 7.8+ million dollars raised by the Kickstarter project, Pebble, proves you correct. Oh wait...

~Johnny said,

Or more likely the third given the size, the first looks like it'd be better off with 480x480

True, but the third one looked more like 4:3 to me. Don't think they are totally to scale though... In the world of 300+ ppi, 768x768 should be good for a 2.5 inch screen.

This seems very unlikely. It is much more likely that they are intentionally misreporting the resolution to keep it hidden.

It seems much more likely that the actual resolution is 1280x786, which gives the exact same aspect ratio as 800x480, and they are merely hiding the 1280 portion so that they can announce it rather than have it exposed early like the iPad 3's resolution.

Another possibility is that this could be for one of the hinted handset types, the static keyboard type (IE Blackberry form factor)

Though those usually also don't use square resolutions either

pickypg said,
This seems very unlikely. It is much more likely that they are intentionally misreporting the resolution to keep it hidden.

It seems much more likely that the actual resolution is 1280x786, which gives the exact same aspect ratio as 800x480, and they are merely hiding the 1280 portion so that they can announce it rather than have it exposed early like the iPad 3's resolution.

This sounds good to me but what if, and I don't know if this is technically possible but what if it's a square because the browser, in this case IE10 mobile, was "snapped" to half the screen with the other half taken up by a 2nd app?

Hell, If we go with the reasoning that WP8 is based off of Win8 then snap could be a big feature on the phone.

GP007 said,

This sounds good to me but what if, and I don't know if this is technically possible but what if it's a square because the browser,in this case IE10 mobile, was "snapped" to half the screen with the other half taken up by a 2nd app?

Hell, If we go with the reasoning that WP8 is based off of Win8 then snap could be a big feature on the phone.


You sir, get my cookie. Very plausible.

Sraf said,
Another possibility is that this could be for one of the hinted handset types, the static keyboard type (IE Blackberry form factor)

Though those usually also don't use square resolutions either

Yeah, that's what I was initially thinking, though pickypg makes a very good point as well. It will be very interesting to see what Windows Phone 8 brings.

GP007 said,

This sounds good to me but what if, and I don't know if this is technically possible but what if it's a square because the browser, in this case IE10 mobile, was "snapped" to half the screen with the other half taken up by a 2nd app?

Hell, If we go with the reasoning that WP8 is based off of Win8 then snap could be a big feature on the phone.

I hope not. Snap is a great feature on the desktop, but would be a royal pain on a phone. I'd rather they invest time in developing something that would be useful in that form factor. And though the kernal is rumored to be the same, the UI elements and everything would not be shared, so it would be very different regardless.

pickypg said,
This seems very unlikely. It is much more likely that they are intentionally misreporting the resolution to keep it hidden.

It seems much more likely that the actual resolution is 1280x786, which gives the exact same aspect ratio as 800x480, and they are merely hiding the 1280 portion so that they can announce it rather than have it exposed early like the iPad 3's resolution.


You got a point. A squared phone is ugly.

pickypg said,
This seems very unlikely. It is much more likely that they are intentionally misreporting the resolution to keep it hidden.

It seems much more likely that the actual resolution is 1280x786, which gives the exact same aspect ratio as 800x480, and they are merely hiding the 1280 portion so that they can announce it rather than have it exposed early like the iPad 3's resolution.

No, this is a square screen for Windows Phone Pager.

http://www.facebook.com/photo....94817.8195378771&type=1

Sraf said,
Another possibility is that this could be for one of the hinted handset types, the static keyboard type (IE Blackberry form factor)

Though those usually also don't use square resolutions either

I think it's safe to say that MS is going to drop this configuration in order to concentrate on a uniform UI that will allow W8 apps to run on WP8 as well. A square screen will complicate things even more.

I have a 32' 1080p TV plugged to my PC using HDMI and a 22' 720p plugged in to same PC using DVI. the 22' inch while it's a 16x10 shows 6 tiles in each row while the 32' only shows 3. I believe MS will need to avoid adding the blackberry type devices to avoid the programming headaches this will create for devs.

gregalto said,
A cookie? This is Neowin, they have the hits too so that's a good thing right?

Even Neowin reported this already.