Opera 11.50 "Swordfish" released

Opera 11.50, codenamed "Swordfish," wraps up a fast two-month public development cycle worthy of its codename with a new release today. The new version of the desktop browser is now available for Windows, Mac OS X, and various flavours of Linux.

The most visible change is an update to the default browser skin. The new skin, which is part of Project "Featherweight," is a brighter and less cluttered alternative to the browser's default skin that has remained intact since 10.50, with minor UI tweaks for the past 3 major revisions. The "Featherweight" skin sports a newly styled toolbar with borderless buttons, a new icon set, four default navigation buttons (Back, Forward, Reload/Stop, Wand) in the default toolbar, and a more accessible zoom slider. This new initiative to improve the UI of the browser is not complete yet, with further phases to be realized in upcoming releases.

The next major addition is Speed Dial extensions. Speed Dial extensions allow users to insert dynamic content into their Speed Dials. These can include an RSS reader, a weather gadget, a stock ticker, a photo slideshow, or a simple clock. These extensions are accessible through the improved "Add Speed Dial" dialog.

Other noteworthy changes include:

  • Opera Link now synchronizes Wand passwords.
  • Moving dials around in Speed Dial inserts dials between two adjacent dials, instead of swapping them
  • Improved IMAP support with Gmail in Opera's built-in mail client.
  • Uses a new update to the Presto engine (2.9), with further HTML5 standards support.
  • A few security fixes, including a fix for cross site scripting

To celebrate the release, which comes roughly a year after version 10.60 was finalized, Opera's front page dons a counter with the number of browser downloads. It's only a matter of time before the browser has just as much downloads as dislikes (3,099,876) for this popular hit (original link).

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Are the people who are all having troubles doing upgrades? Maybe sync and then do a fresh install? It works wonderfully for me on XP, Vista, 7, Fedora
Wonder what the next fish will be...

ncc50446 said,
Are the people who are all having troubles doing upgrades? Maybe sync and then do a fresh install? It works wonderfully for me on XP, Vista, 7, Fedora
Wonder what the next fish will be...

Yeah, a clean install every now and then does help.

Jarrichvdv said,
Keeps crashing here --'
Try renaming your profile folder so that Opera can create a fresh one. See if that makes any difference.

Windows: "%APPDATA%\Opera\" (for example, rename the Opera subfolder to "Opera.bak")

Secondly, make sure all of your plugins are updated.

Opera over the years has been way ahead of the curve for new features and such but still lags in website compatibility where the others have long since resolved such problems, bottom line it's like having an exotic car with no steering wheel.

well, there must be a reason for Opera to only hold ~2% of the Worldwide Browser Market Share.. ive tried it many times, and its not better than Chrome or Firefox

Opera has my respect, but it doesnt do the job for me.. apparently the same is with many other people who chose everything but Opera (but opera is better than IE9)

allwynd said,
well, there must be a reason for Opera to only hold ~2% of the Worldwide Browser Market Share.. ive tried it many times, and its not better than Chrome or Firefox

Opera has my respect, but it doesnt do the job for me.. apparently the same is with many other people who chose everything but Opera (but opera is better than IE9)

It is my main browser, but I do agree. Basic things, like new google services (always...) or even gmail - http://i53.tinypic.com/1zwzo61.jpg - just do not work.
Still, the little things like how the search bar works from tab to tab, wonderfull page cache, and so on, makes it a must have IMO.

aristofeles said,
It is my main browser, but I do agree. Basic things, like new google services (always...) or even gmail - http://i53.tinypic.com/1zwzo61.jpg - just do not work.

Can't confirm your Gmail bug, here it looks and works perfect. Maybe you should try a clean install? Or it's the theme you're using.

aristofeles said,

It is my main browser, but I do agree. Basic things, like new google services (always...) or even gmail - http://i53.tinypic.com/1zwzo61.jpg - just do not work.
Still, the little things like how the search bar works from tab to tab, wonderfull page cache, and so on, makes it a must have IMO.


My Gmail have worked fine with every Swordfish build...

allwynd said,
well, there must be a reason for Opera to only hold ~2% of the Worldwide Browser Market Share.. ive tried it many times, and its not better than Chrome or Firefox

Opera has my respect, but it doesnt do the job for me.. apparently the same is with many other people who chose everything but Opera (but opera is better than IE9)


I've been using Opera for 2 years and it's actually Opera's fault. sometimes you need to refresh the page many time until the page is rendered correctly.

aristofeles said,

It is my main browser, but I do agree. Basic things, like new google services (always...) or even gmail - http://i53.tinypic.com/1zwzo61.jpg - just do not work.
Still, the little things like how the search bar works from tab to tab, wonderfull page cache, and so on, makes it a must have IMO.

when i was playing with Opera i noticed that Google Search results had the old layout, so i checked that option whereas Google Images Result would detect my Opera as Firefox, and after i restarted, it was using the new layout

same with Yahoo! Mail Beta, it said it wasnt compatible with my browser, so i made the page think im using Firefox, and it was fine... you should try the same for Google Mail ..

personally i dont like fiddling so much, making numerous changes and tweaks, thats why i prefer Firefox or Chrome over Opera

aristofeles said,

It is my main browser, but I do agree. Basic things, like new google services (always...) or even gmail - http://i53.tinypic.com/1zwzo61.jpg - just do not work.
Still, the little things like how the search bar works from tab to tab, wonderfull page cache, and so on, makes it a must have IMO.

Weird... Gmail has worked OK here, and now too when I checked.

allwynd said,

when i was playing with Opera i noticed that Google Search results had the old layout, so i checked that option whereas Google Images Result would detect my Opera as Firefox, and after i restarted, it was using the new layout

same with Yahoo! Mail Beta, it said it wasnt compatible with my browser, so i made the page think im using Firefox, and it was fine... you should try the same for Google Mail ..

personally i dont like fiddling so much, making numerous changes and tweaks, thats why i prefer Firefox or Chrome over Opera

Yep but I prefer the old layout!

allwynd said,
well, there must be a reason for Opera to only hold ~2% of the Worldwide Browser Market Share.. ive tried it many times, and its not better than Chrome or Firefox

Opera has my respect, but it doesnt do the job for me.. apparently the same is with many other people who chose everything but Opera (but opera is better than IE9)

opera is good but render stuff incorrectly. its not better or worse than IE9... i use ie9 and it doesn't give me problems like opera. i wonder how you base your opinion about IE9, because its from ms?
but anyway... i still use opera in xp mode. and its a nice browser but it render sites incorrectly, and has aloooooot of stuff inside, its good and bad, because sometimes people want everything to work even if its fewer stuff, not alot of stuff that dont work correctly. mail was a nice addon, but then it got to be annoying while you browse if it failed to sync.
also it crashed alot sometimes with stuff like flash
also they talk about alot of fixes and features and all, but sometimes it doesn't feel different, it feels slower and some sites still cant be displayed correctly. i had both installed in this win7 (IE8-9 and opera) but since i reinstalled my windows i didn't bother to download opera. so i use now what works for me, with less errors.

EmilyTheStrange said,

opera is good but render stuff incorrectly. its not better or worse than IE9... i use ie9 and it doesn't give me problems like opera. i wonder how you base your opinion about IE9, because its from ms?

because even Opera and Maxthon have more features than IE ever had, i dont know if IE9 can get mouse gestures and stuff.. adblock.. a proper one... i dont know but ive never seen much of a customization dedicated to it, they have some pitiful site called "gallery" with 4 addons total and they expect someone to actually buy this .. ive neglected IE long ago because of how limited it is, now IE9's UI is really bad, and it cant be changed really much, i like Firefox and Chrome and they have the customization and extension in features that i need to browse the web my way, something IE doesnt have

Coming from 11.11 here and I must say nice improvements. They should include Notes next on Link.
Did a clean install and it was slow at first but eventually it picked up.

ArKeYa said,
Coming from 11.11 here and I must say nice improvements. They should include Notes next on Link.
Did a clean install and it was slow at first but eventually it picked up.
Notes have been in link since the beginning I think. At least for many years.

Just installed it before coming here. Checked Yahoo mail and sent an attachment. Didn't crash!! Last update seems to have fixed that small issue, as it didn't happen every time, but this version doesn't seem to have reverted back to it.

Smokin' fast as usual still too! Not about to make me change my default browser setting, but I've pretty much always liked Opera, except for most of the 9x versions. That version just always seemed to herky jerky.

Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but that skin has some resemblance to what Firefox has now (I'm not sure which browser was going for this sort of theme, because I've not used Opera for years).

ge_generation said,
Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but that skin has some resemblance to what Firefox has now (I'm not sure which browser was going for this sort of theme, because I've not used Opera for years).

It does certainly have a resemblence.

dave164 said,

It does certainly have a resemblence.

Because FF4 didn't look at all like Opera when it was released. *rolls eyes*

ge_generation said,
Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but that skin has some resemblance to what Firefox has now (I'm not sure which browser was going for this sort of theme, because I've not used Opera for years).

Opera has looked very much like this for some time, this new skin just changes a few small things.

ge_generation said,
Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but that skin has some resemblance to what Firefox has now (I'm not sure which browser was going for this sort of theme, because I've not used Opera for years).

I actually think it resembles Chrome a bit more, as for the graphics (not layout), with the borderless buttons that are monochrome and all. But I can see parts of Firefox in it too, although I think the opposite also holds true. I think all major browsers besides perhaps IE have been converging the last year. Especially Opera and Firefox to Chrome. Chrome seem to have sparked a pretty major influence on both of these. Which may not be all too surprising, given how Chrome market share is picking up the past few years...

ge_generation said,
Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but that skin has some resemblance to what Firefox has now (I'm not sure which browser was going for this sort of theme, because I've not used Opera for years).

Firefox actually copied Opera.

Twisp said,

Because FF4 didn't look at all like Opera when it was released. *rolls eyes*

go inform yourself better next time before posting nonsense ... Firefox's layout mockup or plans.. or whatever (with tabs on top) was there long before 4.0 development was announced.. it were Opera and Chrome who stole the idea

thekim said,
the new skin doesn't look finished

I think it's looking great! Much better than before. I especially like how the bookmarks bar has been made more subtle with the address bar casting a thin shadow on it, so that the address bar looks more prominent. They also made the bookmarks bar vertically thinner, which I think is a good thing.

Northgrove said,

I think it's looking great! Much better than before. I especially like how the bookmarks bar has been made more subtle with the address bar casting a thin shadow on it, so that the address bar looks more prominent. They also made the bookmarks bar vertically thinner, which I think is a good thing.

I think the space between o-menu button and tabs is to big. The miss of the rounding at the corners makes the skin not.... smooth. At th bookmarks bar I'm missing rightclick/new folder and some more possibilities to manage the bookmarks.

thekim said,
I think the space between o-menu button and tabs is to big.

Reduce "Chrome Integration Drag Area" in opera:config from 20 to 15.

thekim said,

I think the space between o-menu button and tabs is to big. The miss of the rounding at the corners makes the skin not.... smooth. At th bookmarks bar I'm missing rightclick/new folder and some more possibilities to manage the bookmarks.


Yes, I also think the space from the Opera menu is a few pixels too wide. 2-3 pixels less would be perfect.

I also wish that, when the Opera menu is hidden (to bring it up with the Alt key instead), the space it normally consumes would be collapsed. I understand it's there part for a drag area, but I don't need *that* much of a drag area.

True - the bookmarks bar could be more convenient to edit too.

dr_crabman said,

Reduce "Chrome Integration Drag Area" in opera:config from 20 to 15.

Actually you can bring it as low as 14 before the tabs go beside the Opera menu instead of beneath it. It used to be 16 for the older skin.

Tried it but does not look any different to me, I'm on ubuntu 10.10, I took the screenshots but failed to recognize any improvement.
It's been a back and forth thing with Chrome and Opera least for me, but I think I'll be sticking to Opera for a while now.

Chun.Yin said,
Bit confused here - Isn't Opera Next supposed to be the developmental version of Opera?

its just a random screenshot .. here is an actual one http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9760/unledyr.png

i like their recent work, but there are some things that annoy me a lot
1. the Opera Menu, even on Vista or 7 with Aero on, it uses some classic menu layout ... really ugly
2. in the default themes of 10, 11, 11.50 the tabs maximized dont touch the upper screen's edge, which means the navigation is harder if you're not looking (the Windows start menu, the close button.. many things touch the screen edge, in order to make it easy.. no such thing in Opera) there is a theme that fixes this though, but its old and not really good looking
3. the bookmark management is really complicated and hard to get used to, many other things are way too complicated and hard to customize, the options box is also really complicated


i like the browsers, but these are one of the things that keep me away from it

allwynd said,

2. in the default themes of 10, 11, 11.50 the tabs maximized dont touch the upper screen's edge, which means the navigation is harder if you're not looking (the Windows start menu, the close button.. many things touch the screen edge, in order to make it easy.. no such thing in Opera) there is a theme that fixes this though, but its old and not really good looking

+1000!! one of the main reasons i left opera

GetUsed2It said,

+1000!! one of the main reasons i left opera

I much prefer it this way. As someone who uses Aero Snap a LOT, it's nice to be able to easily drag the window whenever I need too.

~Johnny said,

I much prefer it this way. As someone who uses Aero Snap a LOT, it's nice to be able to easily drag the window whenever I need too.


in Firefox and Chrome, when tabs havent completely filled the bar, you can use Aero Snap, i dont see why you or anyone would have 20 opened tabs and constantly switching between them

~Johnny said,

I much prefer it this way. As someone who uses Aero Snap a LOT, it's nice to be able to easily drag the window whenever I need too.


in Firefox and Chrome, when tabs havent completely filled the bar, you can use Aero Snap, i dont see why you or anyone would have 20 opened tabs and constantly switching between them

allwynd said,

in Firefox and Chrome, when tabs havent completely filled the bar, you can use Aero Snap, i dont see why you or anyone would have 20 opened tabs and constantly switching between them

I easily have 25 tabs (or more) open at the same time. A few forums I'm active on 3 or 4 browser games, the tab with my mails, twitter, IRC, etc.. I wouldn't know why I would need to close any of them when in less then an hour (or next time I go online), I'll be on those exact same sites again. Keeping them open just saves time. And when I need my browser on my second screen (because I'm starting some random MMORPG) I can just drag it there while it's maximized (something that is impossible in chrome when you have a lot of tabs open)
And common... between the upper screen and the tabs is only 1 pixel or so, besides you can change that. See http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog...-non-maximized-opera-window

allwynd said,

2. in the default themes of 10, 11, 11.50 the tabs maximized dont touch the upper screen's edge, which means the navigation is harder if you're not looking (the Windows start menu, the close button.. many things touch the screen edge, in order to make it easy.. no such thing in Opera) there is a theme that fixes this though, but its old and not really good looking
You can modify the skin yourself instead of relying on an old skin.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=4954751

Here's INI editing with Perl:
http://stackoverflow.com/quest...e-updated-using-a-one-liner

allwynd said,
i do the opera:config thing, and it doesnt work

it has an effect if i increase it, from 1, but decreasing to 0.. even -90 makes no difference and its really annoying because 11.50 skin is the only one that actually looks descent

Editing opera:config is the first step. You have to make sure to edit the skin as well.

XP1 said,
Editing opera:config is the first step. You have to make sure to edit the skin as well.


as i stated - i dont like tweaking.. and pearl is a programming language if im not mistaken.. i dont need to do all this just to use a browser efficiently .. might as well recreate it for my own personal use...... no thanks, people using linux might find this fun, nut im not using linux to start with and i'll just stick with firefox, because there are so many issues with opera that hts barely usable

allwynd said,
as i stated - i dont like tweaking.. and pearl is a programming language
You don't have to use Perl. Perl is for automating the editing process. What I did before was just open the file in Notepad to change the "1" to "0".
For 11.50, you change "Margin Top = 3" to "Margin Top = 0".

If you want it to be simple, there may be an Opera 11.50 skin already edited, so all you have to do is click a button to install the skin.