Report: New Surface Pros at upcoming May 20th "Surface Mini" event?

With the Surface Mini all but confirmed for Microsoft's upcoming event, attention has now shifted to a new revelation which could mean we'll see a new Surface Pro. A report by CNET claims theres is "definitely" going to be a "new Intel-based Surface." Traditionally, the only Surface tablets that have used Intel processors have been the Surface Pro variety, so it stands to reason that we could see a Surface Pro 3 in the coming month. 

"From what I can assess so far I think it's going to [have] a new power-optimized Haswell variant," claims CNET's source. Unlike other tablets which use Atom processors, Microsoft opted for the Haswell variant in the Surface Pro to give it the power of a laptop. Unfortunately battery life suffered as a result (especially when compared to the iPad or MacBook Air), so it is nice to see Microsoft opting for a more battery saving option. 

While being a niche product, the Surface Pro has sold reasonably well and can legitimately straddle the gap between tablet and laptop. 

Source: CNET | Image via HardwareZone

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The "Surface 3", whenever it's released (next fall presumably), needs to come with a pen. The mini will have a pen, and the pro has a pen. The "Surface" name should just imply note-taking as a core feature, and ALL models should just come with a pen.

And they seriously need to drop the prices on the keyboard covers. They're really not optional. It should be no more than $79 for the touch, and $99 for the type. MAX.

I do hope that they release the Surface Pro 3 here in Singapore because the Surface Pro 2 hasn't been launched here at all and the Surface Pro 1 is out of stock here. I guess because they are revealing the Surface Pro 3.

Well, if the Surface Pro 2 as we know it will get a refresh, then so will the Surface 2, prety sure Microsoft isn't going to mess with the numbers now.

boo i just got a 256gb spro 2 less than a week ago (got it for 10% off plus 100$ off with graduation discount) ... just my luck a new one is about to come out .. i have about 9 days left to return it, im happy with it its awesome, but im wondering what would you guys do? should i return it and wait for a new one that doesnt have a release date yet, or just settle and keep what i have? (though regardless i have to go and exchange it cause when i opened the box and turned it around there was a long white scratch along the top of the back so they must of got knocked around)

SpiKedPSU said,
boo i just got a 256gb spro 2 less than a week ago (got it for 10% off plus 100$ off with graduation discount) ... just my luck a new one is about to come out .. i have about 9 days left to return it, im happy with it its awesome, but im wondering what would you guys do? should i return it and wait for a new one that doesnt have a release date yet, or just settle and keep what i have? (though regardless i have to go and exchange it cause when i opened the box and turned it around there was a long white scratch along the top of the back so they must of got knocked around)

I'm in the same boat. I got the same one with that sale. I like it, it's awesome, but my guess is it probably won't be a big enough jump to justify the extra money it'll cost. I got the power cover as a birthday/graduation gift last week, and that adds another 4-5hrs of battery life to it, so I'm good. I should be able to get at least 12-13hrs of battery life with it now through regular use. Playing games, I can cut that in half though. Personally, I'd keep it (which I am). On top of that, Intel's new CPUs (Broadwell) aren't out yet, and probably won't be available in time for a Surface Pro 3. The other big thing is, we don't even know what it is yet.

yeah thats what i was thinking .. it sucks tho that i have to exchange it because it came scratched .. bad enough the website is out of stock of the 256, i gotta drive about 20mi each way to do the exchange .. ill prolly end up doing it tonite at the MS store in king of prussia, PA where i got it

Good luck with the exchange. Hopefully they won't have any problems with it. I'd just call and make sure they have some in-stock before driving over there.

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but if you've got 9 days left to return it, why not hold onto it and see what gets announced 8 days from now?

Damn it. If I had known a new one was coming out so soon I might have waited (got a Pro 2 mid April).

Although if it is a bigger form factor that some people mention then I am ok with the Pro 2. :p

Nimdock said,
Damn it. If I had known a new one was coming out so soon I might have waited (got a Pro 2 mid April).

Although if it is a bigger form factor that some people mention then I am ok with the Pro 2. :p

Never a right time dude, never a right time...

Definitely. I agree.

I meant it more in the sense that I "could" have waited not that long and gotten a newer device. Not that I regret getting the Pro 2. :)

The SP2 uses a hasswell chip (same as other ultrabooks and mac book air). It is designed for low power requirements. The reason SP2 ONLY gets 7-8hrs has to do with the fact it is much smaller and lighter than anything comparable. They just didn't have enough room for a larger battery.

In other words, the SP3 or whatever this is may just be a larger surface with a larger battery. Maybe something 12-13 inches and with a hard base similar to some of the transformer and Samsung ativs. When doced, it will certainly yield double digits battery life. However if undocked, it may still be "ONLY" 8.

Another thing that may change is the device profile. It may be thinner because even just an extra inch, gives them a lot of room to spread out components.

Dot Matrix said,
We've been hearing about power saving Intel processors since the netbook days, and I have yet to see proof one exists.

You mean like the baytrail processors in tablets like the Asus Transformer book?

What are you smoking dot?

I wouldn't of expected a new Surface Pro until around September/October time.
Perhaps this will also be a different type of Surface...

londan said,
I wouldn't of expected a new Surface Pro until around September/October time.
Perhaps this will also be a different type of Surface...

Actually, a few have said that if you want to target the back to school season which is the August-September time frame then you announce in May and or release new products in May-June and build up to the back to school shopping season. By the time it comes more people will know about your products and they'll be in retail already.

George P said,

Actually, a few have said that if you want to target the back to school season which is the August-September time frame then you announce in May and or release new products in May-June and build up to the back to school shopping season. By the time it comes more people will know about your products and they'll be in retail already.

I don't like these rapid releases though, the Surface Pro 2 came out too soon and it annoyed me... less than 12 months is crazy really.

CrippsCorner said,

I don't like these rapid releases though, the Surface Pro 2 came out too soon and it annoyed me... less than 12 months is crazy really.

We're still just guessing here though, have to wait and see what they actually show us.

I wish they would separate the Pro (non-RT based) Surface into two devices.
One fanless and huge battery life using a BayTrail-T and one with more power and graphics but with current not-so-tablet-ish battery.

The Surface Pro 2 with the newer i5 has pretty good battery life, 7hr's or so iirc. So if this new version can up that to 9hrs and be around the same as the Surface 2 and still be an i5 that'd be great.

George P said,
The Surface Pro 2 with the newer i5 has pretty good battery life, 7hr's or so iirc. So if this new version can up that to 9hrs and be around the same as the Surface 2 and still be an i5 that'd be great.

Correct. I have a Surface Pro 2 and am quite happy that I can get over 7 hours of use from it without a charge. 9 would be awesome.

JHBrown said,
4 hours? Good Lord! My Netbook from 2009 gets 4 hours. Battery life definitely needs to be a priority.

That netbook probably has a terrible ATOM CPU in it while the Surface Pro has a nice beefy i5. Not to say they didn't improve on it already with the Pro 2 version that gets ~7hrs or so, maybe more depending on how you use it.

Yes to be fair to it, there is the beefy processor inside it, my four hours is usually watching video on flights so the Pro is in Flight Mode and with all services like team viewer switched off)

I do love the power of the tablet and glad to hear the second improves the battery, looking forward to iteration 3.

TheDisneyMagic said,
Yes to be fair to it, there is the beefy processor inside it, my four hours is usually watching video on flights so the Pro is in Flight Mode and with all services like team viewer switched off)

I do love the power of the tablet and glad to hear the second improves the battery, looking forward to iteration 3.

I can usually get 5 hours out of mine... but if I'm really hammering it, it'll lower to about 3.5-4 hours. Still, mine's docked most of the time so it doesn't really bother me!

OH god I want a Surface 3 / Pro 3 - I haven't got one yet - I have an adequate laptop/pre-ultra ultrabook and a desktop... but ughh.... want.

"Unfortunately battery life suffered as a result (especially when compared to the iPad or MacBook Air), so it is nice to see Microsoft opting for a more battery saving option".

Why are tech sites comparing the Surface Pro to an iPad? These comparisons just cause more confusion for casual readers. I even notice seasoned forum members here on Neowin doing the same thing. The iPad should not be compared to a hybrid laptop.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Not to even mention that one has an ARM and the other uses a full fledged x86 CPU

Precisely. One is a big phone while the other is a small computer.

Major_Plonquer said,

Precisely. One is a big phone while the other is a small computer.

So I guess that would make my Android tablet a phone also?

JHBrown said,
"Unfortunately battery life suffered as a result (especially when compared to the iPad or MacBook Air), so it is nice to see Microsoft opting for a more battery saving option".

Why are tech sites comparing the Surface Pro to an iPad? These comparisons just cause more confusion for casual readers. I even notice seasoned forum members here on Neowin doing the same thing. The iPad should not be compared to a hybrid laptop.

For a lot of people tablet=iPad.
That a Pro is a full fledged laptop in tablet form isn't part of that equasion. Not even for the website reviews ;-)

JHBrown said
Why are tech sites comparing the Surface Pro to an iPad?

Probably for the same reason people seem to equate the ipad as some sort of Jesus device? It's a fair comparison as far as I can see, one allows you to be productive wherever you are and use it for a multitude of tasks, both consumer and business; the other is an ipad.

Ideas Man said,

Probably for the same reason people seem to equate the ipad as some sort of Jesus device? It's a fair comparison as far as I can see, one allows you to be productive wherever you are and use it for a multitude of tasks, both consumer and business; the other is an ipad.

It's a fair comparison heh? Neowinians always bring humor to my day. Since we are talking about what's under the hood, I guess we can compare a Ford Fiesta to the new Ferrari!

"From what I can assess so far I think it's going to [have] a new power-optimized Haswell variant," claims CNET's source

Very exciting to see how this impacts battery life. Maybe on par with the Surface 2?