Rumor: Latest Xbox World issue reveals next Xbox details

The final Xbox World magazine will be coming in December, but before that happens the publisher has used their penultimate issue to spill a bunch of details on the next Xbox, codenamed "Durango". According to an eight-page feature article, the next Xbox will use Blu-ray discs, introduce a second-generation Kinect, directional audio, an "innovative controller" and TV inputs as well as outputs. They also speculate the next Xbox will just be called "Xbox".

The report also details the hardware of the next Xbox development kits, which apparently come with a four-core chipset (with 16 logical cores) and a large 8 GB of RAM. Editor-in-chief Dan Dawkins expects that "unless something really dramatic changes, everything we reveal in our penultimate issue will be revealed long before E3 in June." The magazine also reports that augmented reality glasses with be introduced during the latter years of the console's life.

Also, using industry sources and past Microsoft leaks, the magazine has developed a 3D mock-up of the next generation console. Their render uses the same VaporMG magnesium alloy case used on the Surface, and the silver band has been modelled from the Wedge touch keyboard and Arc Touch mouse. "The future will be black, sharp and curved."

These leaked details line-up with a number of previous leaks, including the old Xbox 720 roadmap from June which listed DVR capabilities and a Blu-ray drive for the next Xbox, and SDK leaks featuring 8 GB of RAM and multi-core CPUs.

Source: CVG | Read the full report by purchasing Xbox World here

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To me, the most exciting part of this would be TV inputs! I'm using Windows 7 Media Center, which appears to be nearing the end of it's life after Win8. The thought of having a device with Blu-Ray plus a DVR built into it that would let me backup TV recordings to my Windows Server 2012 Essentials box in the basement wold let me achieve my dream of having one device in my living room to rule them all. Oh, and Smart Glass! This could be amazing, if done right!!!

"the next Xbox will use Blu-ray discs"

Really...? Hell froze over??

I would be very surprised if this would happen. It never really went anywhere, despite all the 'advantages' towards DVD.

Dutchie64 said,
"the next Xbox will use Blu-ray discs"

Really...? Hell froze over??

I would be very surprised if this would happen. It never really went anywhere, despite all the 'advantages' towards DVD.

How did it not go anywhere, all movies come on Blu-Ray now. They obviously can't keep fitting games on a DVD and Blu-Ray is all that's left, plus people will want to watch their movies on it as well as play games. HD-DVD died a long time ago, Microsoft is not competing with Blu-Ray now.

I'd rather they kept the controller this time but actually standardised on a battery pack form size. All my Microsoft controllers (Black, white, 2x silver, ltd ed. Fable 3) are unique in this respect.

900rr said,
i believe it will be 8 fisical core and more 8 logical cores

An octocore processor would be complete overkill for a console, with hyperthreading or the amd or ibm equivalent that would be 16 logical threads.

And fisical? Really?

They also speculate the next Xbox will just be called "Xbox".

then microsoft is going to have to advertise this as "the new xbox", and everyone is going to think that they're copying apple.

Oh microsoft, I feel so sorry for you because you for falling into these traps unintentionally.

FalseAgent said,

then microsoft is going to have to advertise this as "the new xbox", and everyone is going to think that they're copying apple.
.

They them selfs said they where becoming more like apple.

tytytucke said,

It is easier to use the "apple" naming and it sounds a lot better than all these suggestion in the comments. They can change it any time and go back to naming them

FMH said,
Why would they add VaporMG case in a non-portable device?

It looks good! This is also as portable as a GameCube with a carrying handle. They might put that casing on all the Microsoft hardware. I'm just worried about the cost of the console with those specs.

Edited by tytytucke, Nov 17 2012, 5:13pm :

tytytucke said,

It looks good! This is also as portable as a GameCube with a carrying handle. They might put that casing on all the Microsoft hardware. I'm just worried about the cost of the console with those specs.

By the time it gets released in 2013/2014, the prices would be down considerably.

I think the name Xbox 720 it's very old and sounds crappy. "Xbox 8" will confuse consumers by the existence of the Xbox Windows and Xbox Windows Phone (The way are now called Xbox Live games on those plataforms).

In Fact i like the "Xbox" name, and people will call it "The new Xbox" without confusion, i mean, people can confuse iPads because they all look pretty the SAME, and this 4 xbox (Original, 360, 360 Slim and the new) look very different.

It's a rectangle with rounded corners. Cue Apple lawyers 1...2...

But seriously, most iSheep will now start whining it's way thicker than the iPad. Did I really say seriously there? ;p

paulheu said,
It's a rectangle with rounded corners. Cue Apple lawyers 1...2...

But seriously, most iSheep will now start whining it's way thicker than the iPad. Did I really say seriously there? ;p

Why does someone always have to bring up "iSheep"...

Just go away... your as just annoying as any moronic apple zealot.

paulheu said,
It's a rectangle with rounded corners. Cue Apple lawyers 1...2...

But seriously, most iSheep will now start whining it's way thicker than the iPad. Did I really say seriously there? ;p


I see idiot people

Seems some people have a reading disorder or at least need to be spoon fed there's hints there this was not intended as a serious remark.. sjees..

Depending on when it's released, they may call it XBOX 8 or XBOX 9.. which is software upgradable to the number level of whatever the current version of Windows X is

I like just "Xbox".

Then they can go with the whole apple thing. First generation xbox, second etc.

Having said that, I'm not sure it's really required with the 5+ year release cycle.

It is easier to use the "apple" naming and it sounds a lot better than all these suggestion in the comments. They can change it any time and go back to naming them (like the Rambo movies)

Some names i quite like:

Xbox 3
Xbox neutron

The render looks great imo, i don't see how their 1st gen could be that slim though. Processors of 1st gen require large heatsinks. I'm not sure an "innovative controller" is a good idea, something like the wii u's controller adds to cost and reduces the chances of you getting multiple controllers to play with your friends/family. I'd rather just have a slightly changed xbox 360 controller.

I don't mind XBOX 720. I really like that name actually. It shows that XBOX has come a long way in 5 years. After XBOX 720 they can go for "XBOX 4" in 5 years' time.

corven22 said,
I don't mind XBOX 720. I really like that name actually. It shows that XBOX has come a long way in 5 years. After XBOX 720 they can go for "XBOX 4" in 5 years' time.

Which would be behind PS5, placing them in the same position they avoided with the 360...

It might be a good idea to just name it 'xbox'. They only release a new one every 5-6 years so its not as if people could get confused about whether it is the new one or the old one.

Calling it the Xbox 3 would be easier but they would be behind the PS3. They probably came up with the X360 name to avoid such a thing (and then added the 360 degrees, you're in the centre of the experience argument).

The X10'80 might also work, it could stand for both 3D as well as full HD.

I like the sounds of these specs, even the render looks nice. I don't mind the name, though I'd prefer something like Xbox Next.

I'll buy it anyway as even though I don't play my xbox currently, I like the exclusives on it. I'll get a PS4 also though

ChrisJ1968 said,
why not name the xbox consoles for their year of their release.. Xbox 2013 or 2014 or Xbox14?

Because 4-5 years into its lifecycle parents/morons people seeing Xbox 2013 in the year 2017 would think, Hey, this thing is so old, why would I pay 250 dollars for this, and not get them as gifts, etc.

I don't really have any suggestions myself, but given Microsoft's current direction it'll be a stupid name,

JaredFrost said,

Because 4-5 years into its lifecycle parents/morons people seeing Xbox 2013 in the year 2017 would think, Hey, this thing is so old, why would I pay 250 dollars for this, and not get them as gifts, etc.

I don't really have any suggestions myself, but given Microsoft's current direction it'll be a stupid name,


Absolutely. Personally, I always liked the way Sega and Nintendo did it, but now console brands have more consumer recognition in the space than I think the manufacturers do... So that would be a mistake for both Microsoft and Sony...

I don't know what would make sense here...

I really hope those 8GB RAM, a nice CPU and a good GPU ( 7850 at least ) will be included for real... They include so many extra crap, I hope they won't try to limit the price by limiting its performance... If a decent Xbox with full DX11 suppport and all those characteristics, it certainly means PC gaming can expect better days...

The greedy companies kept for too long the progress back. When there are only 2 players in the market, they can easily manipulate the flow. Unfortunately for all of us. Nothing easier for MS and Sony to sit at a talbe and agree to stagnation -since we have no other options but to "play" with them.

Something last... Mark my words; this time both consoles will be extremely similar in terms of performance. Their only difference will depend on some extras. Like kinect and whatever Sonly is going to include -in order to balance it.

Edited by PC EliTiST, Nov 17 2012, 7:11am :

PC EliTiST said,
I really hope those 8GB RAM, a nice CPU and a good GPU ( 7850 at least ) will be included for real... They include so many extra crap, I hope they won't try to limit the price by limiting its performance... If a decent Xbox with full DX11 suppport and all those characteristics, it certainly means PC gaming can expect better days...

The greedy companies kept for too long the progress back. When there are only 2 players in the market, they can easily manipulate the flow. Unfortunately for all of us. Nothing easier for MS and Sony to sit at a talbe and agree to stagnation -since we have no other options but to "play" with them.

Something last... Mark my words; this time both consoles will be extremely similar in terms of performance. Their only difference will depend on some extras. Like kinect and whatever Sonly is going to include -in order to balance it.


Believe it or not, tech as a whole improves at the same pace for all of these companies. It isn't some grand plan... They do what they can with the tech that they have access to and for the price point that people will buy.

Xbox World magazine going out with a bang. This rumor is very believable. This is to nice of a model to be a fake. The design reminds me of a wireless router without antennas. I like the size and layout, but it is lacking a nice big light indicator of that the Xboxs have.

Anybody know what the memory card slot looking thing is on the bottom right?
Its to long to be a button. The ball looks like a push button and it flips open. oh maybe a sd card slot or usb port. hmm. I'll have to read the article.

I hope this Xbox doesn't eat my games!

tytytucke said,

Anybody know what the memory card slot looking thing is on the bottom right?
Its to long to be a button. The ball looks like a push button and it flips open. oh maybe a sd card slot or usb port.

The article states its a flap that hides at least 2x USB 3.0 ports

8Gb is overkill no?! I mean... most PC games use at most 4gb of Ram... or I guess they want to use all this RAM to cache a lot of stuff and reduse loading times?!

myxomatosis said,
8Gb is overkill no?! I mean... most PC games use at most 4gb of Ram... or I guess they want to use all this RAM to cache a lot of stuff and reduse loading times?!

8 gig is hella cheap.

myxomatosis said,
8Gb is overkill no?! I mean... most PC games use at most 4gb of Ram... or I guess they want to use all this RAM to cache a lot of stuff and reduse loading times?!

But perhaps it's supposed to last for a while.

myxomatosis said,
8Gb is overkill no?! I mean... most PC games use at most 4gb of Ram... or I guess they want to use all this RAM to cache a lot of stuff and reduse loading times?!

8GB Might be enough to give us real multitasking so we can have a better experience switching between apps, games, and handle the DVR functionality for the other streamers if it really is to be a central media hub with access to cable tv. It will be interesting to see how they handle the biggest issue I have always had is the load times to switch apps.

myxomatosis said,
8Gb is overkill no?! I mean... most PC games use at most 4gb of Ram... or I guess they want to use all this RAM to cache a lot of stuff and reduse loading times?!

I just got 8GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM for my PC, £30 new. It's cheap as hell.

myxomatosis said,
8Gb is overkill no?! I mean... most PC games use at most 4gb of Ram... or I guess they want to use all this RAM to cache a lot of stuff and reduse loading times?!
Remember it's 8GB for the SDKs. The consumer consoles may have less. The SDKs need more memory to run debug builds, profilers and whatnot.

EvilAstroboy said,
Least with the 8Gig Ram , the Blu-Ray will not have the "Loading" times on them , I LIKE OTHER CONSOLES

Uh, that won't change anything.

Sly_Ripper said,

Uh, that won't change anything.


Nope. But this is a gripe of mine as well. Hopefully in time faster disc drives paired with other hardware improvements will take care of this.

warwagon said,
I think they should call it Xbox 1080

maybe the first version should be called the "Xbox 1080 RROD edition"

sounds good to me. looking forward to the release. I think I'll be one of the first to be in line. lol. yeah I remember about the original xbox360 but whatever, because Microsoft honors their warranty (sometimes even when the item is out of warranty), so no worries there.

Actual specs may be a bit less than the developer kits, I think developer kits usually include more RAM so that debug tools can run alongside the game.

Stetson said,
Actual specs may be a bit less than the developer kits, I think developer kits usually include more RAM so that debug tools can run alongside the game.
if they use 4gb of shared memory it would be ok im think. i would prefer 8. but look at current titles with only 512 of SHARED memory. the optimization is insane.

Rudy said,
Too much emphasis on Kinect for my liking

Keep the Kinect stuff coming. My sex life has quadrupled since I got the damn thing. Dance central is a great way to get girls to go back to your place to "Hang out".

Colin McGregor said,

Keep the Kinect stuff coming. My sex life has quadrupled since I got the damn thing. Dance central is a great way to get girls to go back to your place to "Hang out".


Using your Kinect to its full potential!

Colin McGregor said,

Keep the Kinect stuff coming. My sex life has quadrupled since I got the damn thing. Dance central is a great way to get girls to go back to your place to "Hang out".


be carful dude the Kinects makes you take way to many breaks for the girls

Colin McGregor said,

Keep the Kinect stuff coming. My sex life has quadrupled since I got the damn thing. Dance central is a great way to get girls to go back to your place to "Hang out".

Really?! (Going to Wal-Mart later...)

Colin McGregor said,

Keep the Kinect stuff coming. My sex life has quadrupled since I got the damn thing. Dance central is a great way to get girls to go back to your place to "Hang out".


So you're up to 4 now?

Sounds amazing!!!! But I hope it doesn't look like that though... it looks like an external harddrive. I do love the logo

You've got at least an entire year to go...so what's that $25-30 a month for the machine, add games...yeah I see your point, it adds up.

If there's 360 games you like, why not grab a cheap second hand one? New they're only like $150 now.

The next one will most likely have some form of backwards compatibility though, so it's not like you'd have to keep the 360 around.

Sounds awesome, guess just calling it Xbox makes sense but I kind of like numbers after things consumers just add them anyway look at the ipad 3/4.

The_Decryptor said,
“They also speculate the next Xbox will just be called ‘Xbox'.”
I hope so, the "720" name people came up with sounds stupid.

No more stupid then just call it an Xbox all over after all there was all ready an Xbox from 2001 and I like idea of calling Xbox 720.

SHS said,

No more stupid then just call it an Xbox all over after all there was all ready an Xbox from 2001 and I like idea of calling Xbox 720.

What would the 720 stand for? It makes no sense.

The_Decryptor said,
“They also speculate the next Xbox will just be called ‘Xbox'.”

I hope so, the "720" name people came up with sounds stupid.

You do know 720 - is used only by the media right?

TRC said,

What would the 720 stand for? It makes no sense.


what does the 360 stand for? each of the degrees that comprise the RRoD?

SHS said,

No more stupid then just call it an Xbox all over after all there was all ready an Xbox from 2001 and I like idea of calling Xbox 720.

Naming it Xbox 720 would be like the stupidest mistake, ever.

I'm guessing just Xbox, or a sort of codename

gonchuki said,

what does the 360 stand for? each of the degrees that comprise the RRoD?

Revolution, that's pretty common knowledge at this point.

TRC said,

What would the 720 stand for? It makes no sense.


360 x 2 = 720 get it meaning more powerful just like if MS where go with Xbox 1080 which is 360 x 3 = 1080 meaning even more powerful then before and what was spot a long time ago in movie Real Steel oh do you need any other clue's

The_Decryptor said,
“They also speculate the next Xbox will just be called ‘Xbox'.”

I hope so, the "720" name people came up with sounds stupid.

They should just name it Xbox 3rd-gen because really the name "Xbox" on its own sounds pretty good, but they do need to add "3rd-gen" to it to differentiate from the old Xbox

SHS said,

No more stupid then just call it an Xbox all over after all there was all ready an Xbox from 2001 and I like idea of calling Xbox 720.
So I'm assuming you'd also have no problem if the 5th gen Xbox was titled "Xbox 1440"? Derp
I'm glad you don't work in marketing.

gonchuki said,

what does the 360 stand for? each of the degrees that comprise the RRoD?

It would be called the Xbox 270 then, RRod is 3 lights, 4 lights is a disconnected video cable.

SHS said,

No more stupid then just call it an Xbox all over after all there was all ready an Xbox from 2001 and I like idea of calling Xbox 720.

right, that'd be like Apple calling their latest ipad generation just ipad instead of ipad3. I bet they would lose a ton of business and money by doing that.

The_Decryptor said,
“They also speculate the next Xbox will just be called ‘Xbox'.”

I hope so, the "720" name people came up with sounds stupid.


XBox 360 sounded stupid too. But in all reality, as much as I like the idea of just calling it "XBox" too, it makes it a lot harder to differentiate a new model... LOL

Skin said,

right, that'd be like Apple calling their latest ipad generation just ipad instead of ipad3. I bet they would lose a ton of business and money by doing that.


Maybe that why more people are get dope because they can tell a iPad from iPad. No thanks I stick with a android tablet any way because at lease with them it can add an MircoSD card.

TRC said,

What would the 720 stand for? It makes no sense.


No different than Apple calling all the new iPads simply iPad instead of iPad 3 or iPad 4.

gonchuki said,

what does the 360 stand for? each of the degrees that comprise the RRoD?

RRoD jokes are old..buddy...you do know it was solved right?

yardmanflex said,

RRoD jokes are old..buddy...you do know it was solved right?


They named the console when RRoD was a problem, right? Old joke? yeah, but it sure applies to give meaning to a meaningless number.