Smaller iPad rumor resurfaces, iPad 2 details leak out

While it’s always entertaining to try and peer into the future of Apple, rumors that swirl around are not always accurate. In addition, even when the rumors turn out to be true, Apple frequently tries to deflect users away from the correct conclusions.

Today Reuters is reporting that Apple is working on new versions of the popular iPad. The new device will have two built-in cameras to use with Apple’s FaceTime video chat application that is available on other Apple platforms, and one to take pictures/videos. The device will also have a better screen, similar to the “Retina display” available on the iPhone.

In addition to the above improvements, it is also rumored that Apple will be creating a smaller version of the iPad. The device is said to be nearly half the size of the current 9.7” screen model and will fill the gap between the extremely portable iPod Touch/iPhone and the relatively large iPad. Steve Jobs had dismissed this rumor back in October but according to the article, a source in the supply chain has said that the smaller iPads are on the way.

Although not all of these rumors are new, the fact that Apple has inked deals with multiple sourcing vendors to create these new products makes it seem like a fairly safe bet that the new devices are on the horizon. January might be a bit too soon to see the products, but expect an announcement from Apple sometime in the near future.

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They'll release both 10" and 7" iPad2 models ... a 7" screen gives almost exactly half what a 10" screen provides in terms of area. I'm guessing they'll have a screen resolution of 2048x1536 on the 10" model and 1024x768 on the 7" ... which would make both devices have Retina-like clarity in terms of ppi, though still not nearly as high as the iPhone 4's ppi (326).

I remember Jobs saying 7" tablets will be epic fail and from what i read the new ipad could play around those inches. Well Galaxy Tab sales going well i guess that can not be overlooked.

How credible Steve Jobs would be when, after bashing 7" tablets back in October (http://engt.co/9qd1TZ), saying they are DOA = Dead On Arrival, that users would need sandpaper to sand down their fingers in order to use 7" tablet comfortably - when after all this talking Apple would release a tablet smaller that the current iPad? Steve Jobs would be completely unreliable. He said they were doing research and that "10 inches" is the minimum size for the tablet.

tom5 said,
How credible Steve Jobs would be when, after bashing 7" tablets back in October (http://engt.co/9qd1TZ), saying they are DOA = Dead On Arrival, that users would need sandpaper to sand down their fingers in order to use 7" tablet comfortably - when after all this talking Apple would release a tablet smaller that the current iPad? Steve Jobs would be completely unreliable. He said they were doing research and that "10 inches" is the minimum size for the tablet.

If it happens then simply he would have being spreading misinformation to the competition. Nothing more nothing less.

Whether they release it or not, we all know his rant back then was stupid given he has iOS on a 3.5" device already. Layout differences aside, you certainly won't hear Steve Jobs saying you need to sandpaper your fingers down to navigate on the iPhone or that reading on the device is difficult. The entire rant was just hot air.

evo_spook said,

If it happens then simply he would have being spreading misinformation to the competition. Nothing more nothing less.

I'm more than curious what they'll announce in January/February

Someone may have manufactured some test and development devices, but it seems highly unlikely Apple would go down the 7" Tablet route, especially after their views on them. Though, hypocrisy can be an Apple staple.

Apple Store attendant: Welcome, how may I help you?
Customer: I'd like an iPad and a side order of 64 gee-bees.
Apple Store attendant: Would you like 3G with that?
Customer: Sure, I'll have some three-gees.
Apple Store attendant: Would you like to supersize that?
Customer: Sure, I'll have the 15".

Sacha said,
Apple Store attendant: Welcome, how may I help you?
Customer: I'd like an iPad and a side order of 64 gee-bees.
Apple Store attendant: Would you like 3G with that?
Customer: Sure, I'll have some three-gees.
Apple Store attendant: Would you like to supersize that?
Customer: Sure, I'll have the 15".

Why is this correct? in america, everything is supersize, even my iPad

I wouldn't mind an iPad for mobile media & such, but they're too expensive atm.

I'd be willing to bet that the smaller iPad model is going to be touted as a "stepping stone" from the ipod touch to the iPad and will have a similarly mediocre quality (non IPS) display like the ipod touch got.

there won't be a new form factor, its just not a good model to have 4" 7" and 10" when the differences between an ipod touch and an ipad aren't huge to begin with...plus anyone with half a skull can predict that features added to the iphone/ipod line will be on the next ipad and new features on the ipad will make it on the iphone....its a unified platform

nekkidtruth said,
Uh....the iPod Touch/iPhone IS a smaller iPad. If this is in fact true, it would be totally ridiculous.

Exactly. Smaller than iPad == It's called an iPod Touch!

nekkidtruth said,
Uh....the iPod Touch/iPhone IS a smaller iPad. If this is in fact true, it would be totally ridiculous.

Smaller in this sense would most likely relate to being
> Thinner
> Light weight
> A slightly smaller screen contributing to a more ergonomic design

Original ipad was a bit of a brick in some aspects, a bit like the iPhone 2G VS the iPhone 4

Auzeras said,

Smaller in this sense would most likely relate to being
> Thinner
> Light weight
> A slightly smaller screen contributing to a more ergonomic design

Original ipad was a bit of a brick in some aspects, a bit like the iPhone 2G VS the iPhone 4

No, smaller as in "nearly half the size". Not the same thing as thinner, light weight. Talk about milking a cash cow. If they do in fact create a smaller version of the iPad, I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass and no one buys it.

nekkidtruth said,
Uh....the iPod Touch/iPhone IS a smaller iPad. If this is in fact true, it would be totally ridiculous.

There are Android tablets that will be 7". Many people would prefer to read on something that is slightly smaller than the iPad.

nekkidtruth said,

No, smaller as in "nearly half the size". Not the same thing as thinner, light weight. Talk about milking a cash cow. If they do in fact create a smaller version of the iPad, I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass and no one buys it.

people who will buy it = people who cant afford a large ipad.

good news about the screen though i used an ipad first time last night and the first thing i noticed was poor quality screen, i'm used to an iphone 4 though i suppose it wont be bad against a non retina display

nekkidtruth said,

No, smaller as in "nearly half the size". Not the same thing as thinner, light weight. Talk about milking a cash cow. If they do in fact create a smaller version of the iPad, I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass and no one buys it.


Current iPad: 9.7"
Current iPod Touch: 3.5"
Current iPad half sized: 4.85"

I don't think apple would bother. Plus, I saw an article saying that Steve Jobs hated the idea of a smaller iPad, from quite a while ago, the last time it was rumoured on neowin!

_DP said,


Current iPad: 9.7"
Current iPod Touch: 3.5"
Current iPad half sized: 4.85"

I don't think apple would bother. Plus, I saw an article saying that Steve Jobs hated the idea of a smaller iPad, from quite a while ago, the last time it was rumoured on neowin!

Lets keep in mind Steve also said netbooks are a fad and useless... hello 11.6" newcomer in the airbook line

nekkidtruth said,

No, smaller as in "nearly half the size". Not the same thing as thinner, light weight. Talk about milking a cash cow. If they do in fact create a smaller version of the iPad, I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass and no one buys it.

Too right, how dare a company try to produce a product that will sell and make money! the swines!

_DP said,
Plus, I saw an article saying that Steve Jobs hated the idea of a smaller iPad, from quite a while ago, the last time it was rumoured on neowin!

I don't think I am breaking my NDA by pointing out that there are NUMEROUS public instances where Steve has denied or dismissed something publicly that Apple was due to release within the year. It's called disinformation and simple corporate secrecy.

evo_spook said,

Too right, how dare a company try to produce a product that will sell and make money! the swines!

Your sarcasm doesn't change the fact that this idea is completely stupid. Trolling is fun isn't it?

nekkidtruth said,
Uh....the iPod Touch/iPhone IS a smaller iPad. If this is in fact true, it would be totally ridiculous.

Why would it be ridiculous? Is there something wrong with the consumer having a choice?

"Half the size" physically would result in something like the samsung galaxy tab or BB playbook with 7" screen. I don't see the big deal with 7" and 10" models for the iPad, some people may enjoy the smaller size for easier mobility.

profets said,

Why would it be ridiculous? Is there something wrong with the consumer having a choice?

"Half the size" physically would result in something like the samsung galaxy tab or BB playbook with 7" screen. I don't see the big deal with 7" and 10" models for the iPad, some people may enjoy the smaller size for easier mobility.

Exactly. I work in a retail store that sells the Samsung tab and the form factor that you squeeze in most pockets has been the most obvious advantage over the iPad talked about by customers. Flash support was second most popular topic. Which for the record runs quite poorly IMO.

Apple-a-Day said,
Lets keep in mind Steve also said netbooks are a fad and useless... hello 11.6" newcomer in the airbook line
I'ts not really a netbook but...at least as far as netbooks are typically atom powered devices. From a marketing perspective it still fits more in the ultra compact category that other CULV systems have. Sure Jobs jab at netooks was as much about the performance as it was the size.

Anyway in regards to this article...I doubt we will see a smaller iPad announced...at least nothing smaller than 9" in 2011. I imagine they'll work on making the device lighter and thinner and perhaps reduce the bezel, and that would be where you may get close to 50% smaller size. I don't see them wanting to cut the screen size itself back too much however.

nekkidtruth said,

No, smaller as in "nearly half the size". Not the same thing as thinner, light weight. Talk about milking a cash cow. If they do in fact create a smaller version of the iPad, I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass and no one buys it.

I'd be more likely to buy it if it came as a 6 or 7" model, provided it costed less too.

Edited by Sandor, Dec 12 2010, 7:55pm :

_DP said,

Current iPad: 9.7"
Current iPod Touch: 3.5"
Current iPad half sized: 4.85"

A 4.85" iPad would be a quarter of the size of a 9.7" ... not half the size. Screen size is measured in area, not diagonal distance.