[Update]Windows Phone 7 Series ported to HTC HD2? [Video] - Fake

[Update] Its a fake, it appears the user is using a  Remote Terminal connection back to a PC running the unlocked SDK.

A developer over at htcpedia seems to have successfully ported Microsoft's upcoming mobile operating system, Windows Phone 7 Series, to the HTC HD2. The developer, who goes by "tom_codon", credits a Russian team for the successful port and has provided several screenshots of it running on the device. 

The poster claims that almost everything is working except for the graphics driver, which is causing some slowdowns. A beta version is planned for release soon. 

It was originally reported from Microsoft at MIX10 that the HTC HD2, which currently runs Windows Mobile 6.5, would not be able to be upgraded to Windows Phone 7 series due to incompatible hardware specifications. The HD2 is currently the most powerful Windows Mobile device and boasts a 1Ghz Snapdragon processor, capacitive touch screen, 5 megapixel camera, proximity and ambient light sensor, DX9 capable GPU, and 448 MB of RAM (576MB for US models).

Many seemed to wonder why a device this fast could not run the latest OS and the most popular reason speculated so far cite that the HD2 sports too many physical buttons and doesn't have a dedicated search button. Microsoft stipulates that all WP7S devices must have three physical buttons: search, start, and back. 

Windows Phone 7 Series is expected to RTM this Fall 2010 and the first batch of devices are expected to be released during the holiday season

 

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I do not live in an area where HD2 is offered. Can someone who has one answer a question for me?

Does the HD2s touch screen support a minimum of four simultaneous points of touch?

That is also one of the requirements for Windows Phone 7 Series devices.

So my comment was removed...which makes no sense. So I'll ask again in a more polite tone?

Where in the videos posted does it verify that it's an HTC HD2 running WM7? The videos are dark and you cannot see which mobile device is actually being used. So how do we know it's an HD2?

So...where do you people see WM7 running on an HD2? All i see are static (read: easily faked) screenshots and two videos that are shot in the dark so you can't tell what kind of phone is being used.

HTC would have to recall the phones, replace the buttons with the WinPhone7 ones.
Then they'll have to contend with customers on incompatible apps and possibly lost data...

so safest bet is "no upgrades".... just buy a new HD2 with WP7....

As a proof of concept it's nice but it's highly unusable for every day use in my opinion, the constant lagginess would drive me insane!

Windows 7 and Windows MOBILE 7 are two totally separate products. The latter of which has not been released yet.

Windows 7 and Windows MOBILE 7 are two totally separate products. The latter of which has not been released yet.

So what? HTC will likely make at least one WP7s phone. The HD2 is awesome. But its soooooooo last year. Can't wait to see what happens next. But a combination of HTC hardware and WP7s will blow everything else off the market.

Owenw said,
This guy is so gonna get a cease and desist

Won't matter, by now it will be on mirrors world wide, you can't stop the internetz, you know because they do it for the LULZ

Owenw said,
This guy is so gonna get a cease and desist

not unless microsoft has turned into apple or palm. they don't care, well they didn't in the past with winmo.

mr.r9 said,
Ohhh XDA was beaten! Blasphemy!
From previous experience, I predict a full working build in 2 months.

I agree I can't believe someone beat the XDA Devs but my guess is they'll have it running on more than the HD2 within a couple of months

all I have to say is "SUCK IT" to all those people who weeks ago where saying this wouldn't be done, here we are months before the OS is realised and it's been cracked, hacked and ported yeah baby!

cerealfreak said,
all I have to say is "SUCK IT" to all those people who weeks ago where saying this wouldn't be done, here we are months before the OS is realised and it's been cracked, hacked and ported yeah baby!

All I have to say is "FAKE"

I think this is a stupid thing, and not really good news at all. Windows Mobile 7 needs DirectX and I don't want a crappy phone that can't *quite* handle it. The HD2 can only handle Open-GL kids!

All these people complaining about MS not putting it on the HD2 cause of the button are WRONG, there are other specifications it doesn't match either.

Owenw said,
I think this is a stupid thing, and not really good news at all. Windows Mobile 7 needs DirectX and I don't want a crappy phone that can't *quite* handle it. The HD2 can only handle Open-GL kids!

All these people complaining about MS not putting it on the HD2 cause of the button are WRONG, there are other specifications it doesn't match either.

The article disagrees:
The article
The HD2 is currently the most powerful Windows Mobile device and boasts a ...DX9 capable GPU...

Owenw said,
All these people complaining about MS not putting it on the HD2 cause of the button are WRONG, there are other specifications it doesn't match either.

Actual reports are conflicting. Some people at MS have stated that only the search button is missing, others have stated that other hardware specs aren't met too. We don't know what is true at the minute though since Microsoft haven't given out the full requirements spec, although since there's a video of it running, I'd be inclined to go with the former rather than the latter.

Yes but remember the graphics would be operating in "emulation" mode, not true hardware mode. Until HTC/MS post up official specs, we won't know for sure.

i just picked up an HD2 and would like to see winmo7 on this badboy. Its a great phone very fast.

Whats good? That the words are getting cut off?
Lol, I guess your mind just starts ignoring that... but why should it ignore it in the first place? Why don't they just fix it...
I really dont like it how it looks.... and although it seems to be better than Win 6.5 I really hoped that they'l do a better job at this one.

Euphoria said,
Whats good? That the words are getting cut off?
Lol, I guess your mind just starts ignoring that... but why should it ignore it in the first place? Why don't they just fix it...
I really dont like it how it looks.... and although it seems to be better than Win 6.5 I really hoped that they'l do a better job at this one.

Fix it? Fix what??? I don't see anything broken.

Really, if you guys are fussing about the words cutting off, wait till you guys use it. I have the HD and you don't even notice it after awhile. It's actually really good.

warwagon said,
Why do people like the fact that most of the words on the Windows mobile 7 UI are always cut off.

I dont i think it looks ridiculous, i even got told that im not clever enough if i dont see that the UI design is awesome.

Richard Hammond said,

I dont i think it looks ridiculous, i even got told that im not clever enough if i dont see that the UI design is awesome.

I feel the same. What's wrong with scaling it to fit the screen? It is growing on me the more I see it though.

Pauleh said,

I feel the same. What's wrong with scaling it to fit the screen? It is growing on me the more I see it though.


Same, just because it is new style which wasn't implemented before doesn't mean that is must be awesome, btw can't judge until I see how it works myself.

Pauleh said,
What's wrong with scaling it to fit the screen?
Because the headings apply to multiple pages, and that resizing headings all the time is a terrible idea.

DarkNovaGamer said,
You all realize it cuts off to show that there is more content to the left (or right depending on the cutoff side).

Finally someone who comes out and says it. I was going to but you got to it first. I always forget to say it. I usually have something come up and take my attention... oh look, a plane! Stupid ADD lol

DarkNovaGamer said,
You all realize it cuts off to show that there is more content to the left (or right depending on the cutoff side).

And? Just because that is the INTENTION doesn't make it GOOD. Is there NO other way to hint that there are additional screens to the left or right? Nope, in fact, Windows chose the stupid hinting of additional hub real estate by having a quarter inch of the next screen overlap on the current screen as well (even stupider and ugly than the cut-off headers -- the home screen literally gives up 10% of it's real estate by using an all black band of space that hints at ... more real estate? Nope, it doesn't scroll horizontally.); so why do we need TWO ways of hinting that there is more content? Was one not good enough? Do they equally suck? Why wouldn't a momentary hover of a scroll bar suffice (as it does with additional vertical real estate)? Why is a cue necessary at all? Couldn't the end of list bounce that the iPhone uses suffice to show you are at the end or beginning of content and otherwise you are able to swipe? Why not have the open circles, filled circle of current page that Apple uses in Springboard? Arrows to point to more content? Or about 10 other ways of hinting that there is additional content?

Just because Microsoft can hand you a rationalization for the UI doesn't make it right or useful or attractive.

Hell, why are the hub headings about 30% bigger than the Zune headings? Why are there already two (and really a few more) inconsistent UIs within a brand new, barely developed interface?

Edited by dp123, Mar 28 2010, 7:18pm :

DarkNovaGamer said,
You all realize it cuts off to show that there is more content to the left (or right depending on the cutoff side).

It does look stupid, and thats a stupid reason. There are much better ways of accomplishing that.

Edited by Shadrack, Mar 28 2010, 8:05pm :

kInG aLeXo said,

Same, just because it is new style which wasn't implemented before doesn't mean that is must be awesome, btw can't judge until I see how it works myself.

From using the emulator it IS awesome. MS are really trying here and it's a big step in the right direction

@dp123 & +Shadrack.

I did not say it did not look stupid. I was just saying WHY it is like that. As I'm betting 3/4 of the people who said it looked stupid didn't even know why it was like that.

No need to get so snappy over it.

DarkNovaGamer said,
@dp123 & +Shadrack.

I did not say it did not look stupid. I was just saying WHY it is like that. As I'm betting 3/4 of the people who said it looked stupid didn't even know why it was like that.

No need to get so snappy over it.

I'm not saying your comment is stupid as it was accurate as to why MS decided to use it. .

doesnt the hd2 have 512mb of ram?
and maybe a little bit more than specified past a certain rom version.

anyway, this makes me happy ;D

The original HD2 was 'marketed' as having 448mb of RAM however the US version has 576mb of RAM. Leaked software from the US HD2s works on the originals and unlocks the full 576mb. No one seems sure why the full 576 was enabled when the original HD2s shipped =/

ahh, the story has been edited, when i read it it said it only had 256mb of ram, which i knew was wrong and that it was around 512mb somewhere.

that's really weird, i never actually thought about why theyd of locked up that bit of ram haa.

Jack E said,
The original HD2 was 'marketed' as having 448mb of RAM however the US version has 576mb of RAM. Leaked software from the US HD2s works on the originals and unlocks the full 576mb. No one seems sure why the full 576 was enabled when the original HD2s shipped =/

UK models shipped with 448Mb RAM, but if you flash a special radio ROM, it enables 576Mb RAM.

US versions are shipping with 1024Mb RAM.

Ferret said,

UK models shipped with 448Mb RAM, but if you flash a special radio ROM, it enables 576Mb RAM.

US versions are shipping with 1024Mb RAM.

1024mb ROM, 576mb RAM.

r1ddl3r said,
Russia.. One can only imagine why... Good job and up yours HTC

It wasn't HTCs fault, the HD2 is perfectly compatible with WinMo 6, the operating system for which it was designed. Microsoft's stupid button requirements were at fault here.

Edited by Majesticmerc, Mar 28 2010, 5:03pm :

Majesticmerc said,
It wasn't HTCs fault, the HD2 is perfectly compatible with WinMo 6, the operating system for which it was designed. Microsoft's stupid button requirements were at fault here.
Why are they "stupid"?

Kirkburn said,
Why are they "stupid"?

Because it's hilariously unfair to deny an OS upgrade simply because the devices has too many buttons, yet is way above the mini specs otherwise. Let the user decide if they are OK with losing the ability to use two buttons and upgrade if they wish.

DrCheese said,

Because it's hilariously unfair to deny an OS upgrade simply because the devices has too many buttons, yet is way above the mini specs otherwise. Let the user decide if they are OK with losing the ability to use two buttons and upgrade if they wish.

No. MS are trying to make a completely clean break with the product, and not have any halfway-there products. I agree, it sucks that the HD2 won't recieve the upgrade, as hardware wise, it's capable.

On the other hand, it's completely outside the product vision to have a product that's functional but not fitting in with the strong platform aesthetics.

DrCheese said,

Because it's hilariously unfair to deny an OS upgrade simply because the devices has too many buttons, yet is way above the mini specs otherwise. Let the user decide if they are OK with losing the ability to use two buttons and upgrade if they wish.

Microsoft is trying to define a standard for Windows mobile 7. Microsoft burned its hands with its previous version precisely because it allowed every OEM to do what ever it wants on the phones and thereby affecting the OS. When Microsoft wants to make it right, they are called "stupid".

spenumatsa said,
Microsoft is trying to define a standard for Windows mobile 7. Microsoft burned its hands with its previous version precisely because it allowed every OEM to do what ever it wants on the phones and thereby affecting the OS. When Microsoft wants to make it right, they are called "stupid".

Android copes perfectly fine without a specific requirement on what buttons are available on the handset. The only reason the Search button is a requirement is because Microsoft want the button to go directly to Bing, which enhances its search market share.

Obviously I can see why some hardware requirements are necessary. Windows Phone 7 is going to need a processor to keep up, and memory to hold data, and so on. This is all given. But why does the lack of a button determine that a handset is incapable of running the software? This is akin to saying "No PC can run Windows 8 unless the keyboard has a "Media Centre" key.

This isn't to take away from the OS itself, since it does look good, I just think that the button requirement should be a "recommended", and not a "minimum", especially given that it seems that the OS would suffer no discernible loss from not being able to initiate its "Bing Search" function, apart from not having a one-click search function.

Majesticmerc said,

Android copes perfectly fine without a specific requirement on what buttons are available on the handset. The only reason the Search button is a requirement is because Microsoft want the button to go directly to Bing, which enhances its search market share.

Obviously I can see why some hardware requirements are necessary. Windows Phone 7 is going to need a processor to keep up, and memory to hold data, and so on. This is all given. But why does the lack of a button determine that a handset is incapable of running the software? This is akin to saying "No PC can run Windows 8 unless the keyboard has a "Media Centre" key.

This isn't to take away from the OS itself, since it does look good, I just think that the button requirement should be a "recommended", and not a "minimum", especially given that it seems that the OS would suffer no discernible loss from not being able to initiate its "Bing Search" function, apart from not having a one-click search function.

You can always say that... But the entire experience revolves around being connected and Bing has a big part in it. I showed my sister how Bing can find her places, movies, directions, etc. She couldn't believe it. She loved the idea how her iPhone has Bing and how it can find her places to eat around her and gives you all the information about that place.

It defines the experience. Without the button for Bing, you would need to modify the UI to include Bing. Everywhere in Windows built-in experiences like the start menu, the Windows Explorer, etc, all have a search bar that searches what you need according to the current location. Well on every Windows Phone, comes a search button, and anywhere you are, you can search. Without Bing, every phone would need multiple apps for maps and searching and specific searching in the apps.

The search button, back button, and start button, all make up the integrated experiences. You can always go back using the back button, and you can always search what you need where you need with the search button, and you can start fresh always with the start button. This is all part of the integrated experiences. Being connected to your social networks everywhere you are, being connected to places around you by using Bing to point them out to you and where they are...It just all is dot to dot, it all connects, it's just all for a reason.

Electric Jolt said,

You can always say that... But the entire experience revolves around being connected and Bing has a big part in it. I showed my sister how Bing can find her places, movies, directions, etc. She couldn't believe it. She loved the idea how her iPhone has Bing and how it can find her places to eat around her and gives you all the information about that place.

It defines the experience. Without the button for Bing, you would need to modify the UI to include Bing. Everywhere in Windows built-in experiences like the start menu, the Windows Explorer, etc, all have a search bar that searches what you need according to the current location. Well on every Windows Phone, comes a search button, and anywhere you are, you can search. Without Bing, every phone would need multiple apps for maps and searching and specific searching in the apps.

The search button, back button, and start button, all make up the integrated experiences. You can always go back using the back button, and you can always search what you need where you need with the search button, and you can start fresh always with the start button. This is all part of the integrated experiences. Being connected to your social networks everywhere you are, being connected to places around you by using Bing to point them out to you and where they are...It just all is dot to dot, it all connects, it's just all for a reason.

Remap one of the HD2 keys..all it would possibly take is a simple regedit.

Edited by -Razorfold, Mar 29 2010, 1:08am :