Xi3 says it made PISTON PC for Valve; will ship with a Windows OS

There now seems to be a little bit of a dust up between game developer Valve and PC maker Xi3. This week, a statement from Valve said it "currently has no involvement in any product" from Xi3, despite Xi3 saying in January it had received an investment from Valve to build the PISTON gaming PC.

Today, Xi3 is doing some damage control. In a new press release today, the PC maker reaffirmed it had received an investment from Valve and that "we were asked to build a product specifically for Valve." That product was shown at both Valve's and Xi3's booths at CES 2013 in January.

Xi3 founder Jason A. Sullivan also said that Valve's founder Gabe Newell later asked him at CES 2013 not to disclose any more information about the Valve-Xi3 relationship. While Sullivan said that he will honor that request, he added that "... just because Valve may not 'currently' have any 'involvement with any product of (ours)' doesn't mean that such involvement won't exist in the future."

Xi3's PISTON PC is also not the official "Steam Box" hardware, according to Sullivan, nor has Xi3 or Valve made any such statements. That said, Sullivan did say that the PISTON PC will ship with a version of Microsoft's Windows OS when it launches in late 2013. While the PISTON can run any x86-based OS, Sullivan said that the company disagrees with Valve about Linux PCs as the future of the gaming PC. He said:

Contrary to Valve's vision, Xi3 believes that the way to take this to market today is to do so with a Windows OS at the core, coupled with the ability to not just get to one platform/store for games, but to get access to all game stores/platforms.

Sullivan claims that he has been "amazed at the interest and amount of pre-orders we have received thus far" for the PISTON PC, which it launched a few days ago. Prices for the PISTON normally start at $999 but Xi3 has cut the pre-order price by $100 from now until March 17.

Sullivan ended the press release with a rather interesting, and somewhat competitive, note: "In closing, what Valve does or doesn't do with its Steam Box will be up to them. So Gabe, it's up to you. The ball is in your court."

Source: Xi3

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This is great. I agree about shipping it with Windows instead of Linux,
but I disagree about it shipping with an AMD processor.
Wants one with an Intel i7

very expensive and not a mass product but a niche one; that's not the idea Valve had with SteamBox.

Also i doubt this one could render big games 60+ fps.

Wow, dick move Valve.

It's like when you buy a dog with a girlfriend cause she 'reaaaally wanted it' only to break up and her saying to keep the dog because she knows it'll tie her down and she really only liked the idea of a dog.

Xi3 is the boyfriend and Valve is the little irrational girl (in case that wasn't clear). Piston is the Dog lol.

The only reason there is any interest whatsoever in Xi3 is because of their association with Valve...now that the relationship is over Xi3 will be forgotten by the end of the year.

off course it will. Valve is kidding themselves if they think the gaming community will follow their Linux suicide just because they have a conflict with Microsoft over the windows store. gamers want windows because it is the dominant platform and valve just has to roll over and ask for belly rubs at this point.

What is the Video Card in this???? Cannot see it being too powerful at such small overall size.

$1000? I am sure you can build something more powerful for this money. But there will always be a market for smaller and better looking powerful PCs.

I love my Falcon NW Tiki.. It is expensive, but small and it kills all the games I and it is still really large comparing to Piston.

1) Online steaming - like OnLive and you have access to your current game library but through a dedicated console/small pc. It doesn't have to be powerful that way and it can run any OS but you still get your games, but will probably require a subscription and Valve may lose out when it comes to an argument over licenses for games.

2) Dedicated console device with specifically written games/ports - you don't get your full library of games until they are ported over if a developer does it (not likely in a lot of cases) Valve could make this very easy to do though, somehow??

Or
3) A hybrid of the two, but this won't really differentiate them much from other systems imho but you can still access your whole library with a cost effective console/small pc AND have dedicated games written for it for when you cannot get online as not everyone has a good reliable internet connection

At $1000, it's easy to see why Valve dropped it. WAY too expensive. People can build a far superior desktop for less than that...

Also, Gabe's an idiot. Linux the future of gaming? Pfft. Linux has, and always will be, the purview of geeks and web servers.

Valve obviously disappointed in the pricing and the general consensus on the internet is this thing is overpriced, and so Valve is jumping on the bandwagon trying to distance themselves before the whole steambox idea flops.

xi3 wants to keep pushing the idea this is a Valve funded project and get as much media attention as possible to sell the device. They also realize Valve is against them so decided to go ahead and toss in a few bombs - Windows is the way to go, and that the official steambox is not really a threat to them so they will ship with all game platforms not just steam.

It didn't take very long for this whole steambox idea to fall apart. The idea of PC gaming is you have superior graphics, upgradability, customization to games that you cant get on consoles and to achieve that you have to pay a higher price - $600+, and that kind of market generally does not appeal to console gamers which is the demographic the steambox was supposed to be aimed at. This whole idea is not well thought out and Valve will pay greatly in hardware sitting on shelves never to be sold.

pgn said,
Valve obviously disappointed in the pricing and the general consensus on the internet is this thing is overpriced, and so Valve is jumping on the bandwagon trying to distance themselves before the whole steambox idea flops.

xi3 wants to keep pushing the idea this is a Valve funded project and get as much media attention as possible to sell the device. They also realize Valve is against them so decided to go ahead and toss in a few bombs - Windows is the way to go, and that the official steambox is not really a threat to them so they will ship with all game platforms not just steam.

It didn't take very long for this whole steambox idea to fall apart. The idea of PC gaming is you have superior graphics, upgradability, customization to games that you cant get on consoles and to achieve that you have to pay a higher price - $600+, and that kind of market generally does not appeal to console gamers which is the demographic the steambox was supposed to be aimed at. This whole idea is not well thought out and Valve will pay greatly in hardware sitting on shelves never to be sold.

I think few of my braincells just recovered from all the stupidity that's been going on around here. Thank you! You made a point and explained it well, I also agree with you.

I love Linux.. but he is right.. Windows is the gamer platform and anyone to argue that is a moron..


.. FOR NOW MU HA HA HA =)