Help me select a new monitor

[Symbiotic Hat]

I'm looking for a new monitor to replace my old Dell 2005fpw. I'm looking at the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM.

The only thing I really use this PC for is gaming. I don't do the whole 3D gaming so that's not a concern. I just need a good panel for FPS games. I'd like it to be widescreen, but I haven't decided if 16:9 or 16:10 is better. I've been using the 16:10 Dell for quite some time but it seems like 16:9 is starting to become the standard for games, however then you have to consider the implications of FOV in games. So if anyone can speak to that, that would be helpful too.

Thanks in advance.

[neoraptor]

ips monitors are not for games (it will work but not for hardcore gamers). Get u2412 you wont regret the extra pixels

[Symbiotic Hat]

ips monitors are not for games (it will work but not for hardcore gamers). Get u2412 you wont regret the extra pixels

My problem with the 2412 is that it's too big for my liking. You almost have to move your head to take it all in. Well that and the 2412 is an IPS monitor as well so your point is invalid.

[Symbiotic Hat]

bump for any more suggestions

[DigitalSnow]

I personally have the Dell P2411H (TN) monitor and love it. A Twisted Newmatic (TN) monitor is most likely what you will want. They have faster response times and are usually cheaper, but where they fail is in color quality and consistency. IPS, on the other hand excels where the TN falls short, but at the price of speed and expense. For more information on the differences check here: ( TFT Central ).

Based on the limited specifications that you gave for your desired monitor, I would suggest the Dell P2212H (Alt Link) for about $180.

[TEX4S]

The Ultrasharps are good LCD - the other Dells are not , plain and simple.

I dont know why neoraptor said IPS are not for hard core gamers - My Samsung is IPS & I play games & only LCD I have seen that can compare to mine are the Ultrasharps...

neo- you mind elaborating ?

OP: If you were already considering an Ultrasharp - you wont be happy with the non-U from DeLL - trust me on that. "you get what you pay for"

[neoraptor]

The Ultrasharps are good LCD - the other Dells are not , plain and simple.

I dont know why neoraptor said IPS are not for hard core gamers - My Samsung is IPS & I play games & only LCD I have seen that can compare to mine are the Ultrasharps...

neo- you mind elaborating ?

OP: If you were already considering an Ultrasharp - you wont be happy with the non-U from DeLL - trust me on that. "you get what you pay for"

Hardcore is the keyword - as on tftcentral say "The responsiveness of the U2412M should be perfectly fine for some most moderate to high gaming..." but if you compare it to the Samsung 2233RZ at 120Hz the difference is obvious.

[philcruicks]

Hardcore is the keyword - as on tftcentral say "The responsiveness of the U2412M should be perfectly fine for some most moderate to high gaming..." but if you compare it to the Samsung 2233RZ at 120Hz the difference is obvious.

+1 most average gamers, even some high end gamers probably aren't gonna notice the difference.

But yeah slower response and refresh rates are your issue with IPS...having said that the 8ms response of that panel isn't bad..but a good TN will only have a 2ms response.

[neoraptor]

+1 most average gamers, even some high end gamers probably aren't gonna notice the difference.

But yeah slower response and refresh rates are your issue with IPS...having said that the 8ms response of that panel isn't bad..but a good TN will only have a 2ms response.

response times are a bit marketing trick these days since they are not the same thing. Usually they calculate it from gray to gray but there are technologies to post-proccess the signal. What I mean is don't look only at the specs as they are mainly for marketing.

[DigitalSnow]

The Ultrasharps are good LCD - the other Dells are not , plain and simple.

So you are saying that my non U- Dell monitor is bad? Where are your references and proof? I have used 3 different P- Dell models and 1 E- model and I love them all. They are great for everything, except maybe a graphic artists who is nuts about their color quality.

I use them for playing games, watching movies, and work, without any issue.

TEX4S - you mind elaborating ?

In fact I prefer the Dells I own over the Samsung 2443 that I also have.

response times are a bit marketing trick these days since they are not the same thing. Usually they calculate it from gray to gray but there are technologies to post-proccess the signal. What I mean is don't look only at the specs as they are mainly for marketing.

Very true. Do not trust the response time listed on the cover unless you get the full details of their testing methods. TFT Central has a great section on why!

The true method (ISO standard) is black to white to black, but many companies cheat by just doing black to white (only the rise, no fall) or gray to gray (not the full range). Read the articles on TFT Central for very good explanations.

[TEX4S]

My proof and references are my eyes.

What you consider good - I consider crap - thats all.