Windows Update ISO Beta vs AutoPatcher XP

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Hey I just got this mail it looks like we might be able to get some stuff ahead of time. I am downloading the .ISO file now and I will play with it and post the results of anything that looks promising to us.

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Dear Windows Update Beta tester,

We are starting a new beta project!

Please Note: This beta project is unsuitable for anyone who is using Dial-up as

their primary internet connection - Beta testers who use dial-up internet

connections will have considerable difficulty downloading a 300MB file. We

suggest you do not participate in this beta project.

The purpose of this project is to beta test a Windows Update CD image / ISO file

- English Only, plus content install testing. This project primarily targets

Windows 2000 and Windows XP users. Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows ME, and

NT4 users will receive a "Thank You" page from the CD which is created from the

ISO files. Again, this project requires a fast internet connection line.

The project will run from November 14, 2003 through November 24, 2003. We need

to gather the majority of the data within the next few days, please help us by

initiating beta testing as soon as you can. Our goal is to resolve any issues

before this package is released to public.

Information regarding ISO image files is available on the Microsoft MSDN

website, which also has a link for downloading the Virtual CD utility tool (for

people who have no CD Burner):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/fa...default.asp#iso

<http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/faq/default.asp>

On the <http://www.betaplace.com> site, in addition to the ISO CD image files

that you need to download, we also supply tools, testing instructions, test

cases, etc. that are related with this beta project. Please go to

<http://www.betaplace.com> and click on Windows Update 4.0 beta program's

downloads page to download:

1. WUISO.zip - ISO image file for creating a Windows Update CD

2. WUCDISOBeta.zip - Testing instructions and test cases for this project, CD

content list from Windows Update CD, etc....

3. VCD.zip - VCD Tools for creating a Virtual CD Drive and instructions

Please read the documents carefully before starting this beta project. There is

a considerable amount of information in both VCD.zip and WUCDISOBeta.zip files,

and (cogently) the Testing Instructions file.

Attention to all Windows XP users, please help us to test the Windows Security

Advisor section --> ICF and AU.

Download times for ISO files vary greatly. This particular ISO file is about

300MB in size. Typical sizes and times for the download example:

- 11.1 MB typical | 28 minutes @ 56KB | 12 minutes @ ISDN/DSL (128KB)

- 23 MB typical | 58 minutes @ 56KB | 24 minutes @ ISDN/DSL (128KB)

- 300 MB typical | 1-3 hours ISDN/DSL/Cable Modem (40 - 128KB - this is just an

estimation)

Please Note: Again, this beta project is unsuitable for anyone who using Dial-up

as their primary internet connection- Beta testers who use dial-up internet

connections will have considerable difficulty downloading a 300MB file. If you

are using fast internet connection, and you still experience slow download

speed, please be patient, this is the only suggestion I have for this slow speed

issue.

Thank you!

Windows Update Beta Program

[isus]

so this is a cd with all the windows updates?

i thought some guy did that already, on his own... maybe i'm just wrong.

[cpugeniusmv]

so this is a cd with all the windows updates?

i thought some guy did that already, on his own... maybe i'm just wrong.

that'd be FlishFun...

AutoPatcher XP

hmm, :) interesting.

[Kelsenellenelvian]

LOL might be some new stuff in it for Flishfun to use.

[FlishFun Veteran]

Well, it is twice the size of ours... lol So let's see. ;)

[cpugeniusmv]

Well, it is twice the size of ours... lol So let's see. ;)

i bet it includes SP1

[FlishFun Veteran]

Well we'll see... either way, I'm not stoppin' my program. :D So don't anyone worry. ;) And I'm also downloading it... gonna compare what's in it to what's in the AP. :D hehe

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Well we'll see... either way, I'm not stoppin' my program. :D So don't anyone worry. ;)

Oh hell no even after they finish SP2 I hope you guys keep it up with the stuff they don't include and the patches after that.

[FlishFun Veteran]

Oh hell no even after they finish SP2 I hope you guys keep it up with the stuff they don't include and the patches after that.

Plus... I spent today workin' on my site design! lol And we don't plan on givin' up. Plan on havin' AutoPatcher XP, AutoPatcher 2000, and AutoPatcher 2k3. ;) And I don't plan on gettin' rid of it.

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Amen hey Flish check your inbox for a new PM.

[FlishFun Veteran]

Amen hey Flish check your inbox for a new PM.

Just PM'd ya back. :)

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Just tried it. Childs play compared to the might of Autopatcher XP only thing different is it has SP1, less proggys and updates and can re-configure the built in firewall.

EDIT Not even any cool extras. Rather dis-appointing if you ask me...

Edited November 15, 2003 by Kelsenellenelvian

[FlishFun Veteran]

Just tried it. Childs play compared to the might of Autopatcher XP only thing different is it has SP1, less proggys and updates and can re-configure the built in firewall.

EDIT Not even any cool extras. Rather dis-appointing if you ask me...

I just got it... let me see. ;) I'll write up a comparison. :)

Edited November 15, 2003 by FlishFun

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Microsoft Windows Update Security Update CD Content list

Windows XP Contents:

- There will be no ia64 rollup package and no express package for rollup

Full Install Packages: ~ WMP - Windows Media Player 9

~ DX9 - DirectX 9.0b

~SP1 ? Windows XP Service Pack 1

Windows XP Critical Security Updates:

Bulletin Number KB Title

MS03-008 814078 814078: Security Update (Microsoft Jscript version 5.6, Windows 2000, Windows XP)

MS03-014 330994 330994: April 2003, Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1

MS03-017 817787 817787: Security Update Windows Media Player for XP

MS03-030 819696 Security Update for Microsoft Windows (819696)

MS03-040 828750 October 2003, Cumulative Patch for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB828750)

MS03-034 824105 Security Update for Microsoft Windows (KB824105)

825119 Remotely exploitable buffer overflow in the Help Center Service

828035 [MSRC 1786] LSD: BO in msgsvc.dll dynamic library

823182 GDR Reviewed: [MSRC 1712] Authenticode variation of 1681- MSIE flood request

826939 Aggregate Package

Windows 2000 Contents:

Title KB

W2K SP4

MS03-039 Blaster 824146

Microsoft Confidential

Whhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutly HUGE list of stuff.

[FlishFun Veteran]

:o I can't believe I was worried. Well, back to work on the AP... panic averted. ;) It is a nice CD... I think it's gonna replace the SP1 CD's they were sending out... it's more like a SP1.1 (and 4.1) than anything else. :)

[akaladis Veteran]

MS cant beat us... their's is not customizable in any way, is it??? hahahaha

/Raptor

[FlishFun Veteran]

MS cant beat us... their's is not customizable in any way, is it??? hahahaha

/Raptor

No it's not, and if you look at what he posted, it really doesn't contain much of anything in the way of updates. It contains some of the important ones, but nothing else. So our AP is safe! :happy:

[akaladis Veteran]

so, neowin.net AutoPatcher is better than Microsoft AutoPatcher :D wohooo

[Keldyn]

Bah... It's only a matter of time before you are assimilated by the Borg...errm, I mean Microsoft. :unsure:

[Sn00pY]

Bah... It's only a matter of time before you are assimilated by the Borg...errm, I mean Microsoft. :unsure:

they might get Assimilated with $$$ though :D

[akaladis Veteran]

LOL @ Keldyn

[Groovedude]

they might get Assimilated with $$$ though :D

Doubt that very much M$ will use the word court some how.... :no:

[FlishFun Veteran]

Just for any who want to know, I compiled a list of exactly what's in the Windows Update ISO Beta. I also included what's in the AutoPatcher XP 4.1. So you can compare what's in each. ;)

Compare.zip

[akaladis Veteran]

i wonder what they were thinking...

[FlishFun Veteran]

i wonder what they were thinking...

They were probably thinking this would be a good idea for a replacement to their Service Pack CD's they send out. It had the Service Pack, but it also has a few Critical Updates, and a couple other goodies. It's not everything on WU by far... but it's some of the most important fixes for common users (Blaster fix) and the biggest fixes (SP, DX9, WMP9). That's all. :)