y_notm Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 OK, so I really wanted this feature on my computer but didn't want to be stuck on SP2 beta 1 until longhorn comes out (4051 has concurrent sessions enabled by default BTW), so I started snooping around the system32 folder in Windows XP. After finding the dlls controlling terminal services, I spent the last 2 days downloading the full xpsp2.exe beta 1. I grabbed the 2 files (that I found while searching) that were related to terminal services and started some testing. My Results (and how to enable concurrent sessions) 1. First, open regedit and navigate to the key HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\Licensing Core 2. Create a new Registry DWORD called "EnableConcurrentSessions" and assign it a value of 1 3. Open a command prompt and delete termsrv.dll from %systemroot%\ServicePackFiles\i386\ 4. Still in the command prompt, rename termsrv.dll in system32 to something else (like termsrv.old) 5. (key step) Copy termsrv.dll from SP2 beta 1 (build 2055) to system32 6. reboot Multiple sessions should now be enabled on your machine. Note: you must have the welcome screen and fast user switching enabled for concurrent sessions to function properly. a word of caution: this causes the termsrv.dll file to be outdated, and it won't include any of the fixes that the RC1 file has had since beta 1. I don't know of any security fixes or bugs that have been patched in Sp2 for terminal services, so its not a big deal for me. But for others this may not be so. It would be nice if someone would throw the two dlls in some kind of decompiler, find the differences between the two, and possibly create a fix for current versions of the dll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 what exactly is Concurrent sessions? like fast user switching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted March 22, 2004 Author Share Posted March 22, 2004 Concurrent Sessions allows (in XP PRO) one user to be logged in on the Console (aka physically on the computer) and one (or more, I've read the # can be changed through group policy) to be logged in remotely through Remote Desktop simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I8PP Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 what exactly is Concurrent sessions? like fast user switching? It's where you can have someone remote desktop to your system, but you do not get booted off while doing so, so therefore 2 users are using the same computer at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaBonger Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 In order for this to work, FUS needs to be enabled? Then this won't work for machines which are on a domain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Hrrm - I wonder if that means users of those 'Smart Displays' will be able to use both at once :/. My reasoning is that when smart displays were released, it figured that they used remote desktop to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 In order for this to work, FUS needs to be enabled? Then this won't work for machines which are on a domain? Correct. You then would need something like SMS to control the PC remotely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted March 23, 2004 Author Share Posted March 23, 2004 Hrrm - I wonder if that means users of those 'Smart Displays' will be able to use both at once :/. My reasoning is that when smart displays were released, it figured that they used remote desktop to work. yes, that was what prompted the inclusion of concurrent sessions in SP2. But they took it out in later buidls and decided to add that functionality in a later smart display update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Leclair Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 5. (key step) Copy termsrv.dll from SP2 beta 1 (build 2055) to system32 Where can I get this .dll or can you .zip it up and send it to me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Leclair Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 I opened build 2055 in winrar but I can't locate the dll, can someone point me to the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGx89 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 The old termsrv.dll can be downloaded from a link in this thread: http://www.winbeta.org/winbeta/forums/inde...opic=1982&st=15 (middle of 2nd page) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Meh, I'm guessing this isnt against board rules, so here's the termsrv.dll from 2055 termsrv.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak73 Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 can the local and remote user do seperate things? or do they see the same mouse cursor and desktop?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snippet1 Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 can the local and remote user do seperate things? or do they see the same mouse cursor and desktop?? Separate things, I would think. But I know that you would have to be logged on as a separate user account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aletheuo Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 FYI - just upgraded from SP1 to SP2 RC1 (2096) and concurrent sessions was enabled and working with the instructions posted at the top of this thread... until I installed the Microsoft Updates for SP2 RC1 and then it didn't work anymore. (termsrv.dll was not replaced by the updates... still was 2055 one) So, I began uninstalling the updates one at a time from the bottom of the list in "Add/Remove Programs - show updates" - after I uninstalled the 2nd one from the bottom (sorry, don't remember the exact name of it but it was a March Beta patch I think) I had concurrent users working again in SP2. Yes! Back in business. It sure would be nice to know which file was replaced in that beta to break concurrent sessions. If someone knows please post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aafflyer Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried the termsvr.dll 2055 with XP Pro SP1 and the registry change to see if concurrent sessions automaticly come to life in SP1? I'd really like to get remote access into a media server PC I built, but I don't want to royally screw it up if bad things happen. It's been countless hours and may tweaks to get the thing right, and while I'd love to log in from the laptop while I'm using the machine via the TV, I'm gun shy. Any one up for trying? Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aletheuo Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 I did once, yes - but got a Data Encryption error when trying to connect - whatever that is. That's why i ended up with sp2 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganko Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Please everyone go here and request that multiple concurrent sessions (at least 2, one for admin one for a user) be included in XP Professional SP2. http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/sugge...n.asp?LCID=1033 Cheers, ganko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aletheuo Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 re: encryption error I just learned that the data encryption error I received with SP1 was due to a linksys router. Someone should try the 2055 termsrv.dll in sp1 to see if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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