Linux

[Andy07]

I would like to switch to Ubuntu... but i have a few concerns about how apps and drivers are installed, they seem way different than windows.

My pci modem and sound card are not well known, would i struggle to install them?

[LaNcom]

Why don't you just tell us what modem and soundcard you use...? :-)

[speed3okie]

have you looked to see if they are compatable from ubuntu's website????

[Andy07]

inno3d extreme 5.1 sound card

connexant pci adsl modem

[mitch00]

get the live cd. check if your hardware is compatible (it probably is). that is the eaisest way to see if your system is compatible with an OS

[LaNcom]

You mean a InnoVISION Audio Extreme 5.1? That card's based on a CMI8738-6CH chip, this one should work without problems. The modem should work, too - maybe it'll need some tweaking:

http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/linux_conexant_pci_adsl.html

[Andy07]

You mean a InnoVISION Audio Extreme 5.1? That card's based on a CMI8738-6CH chip, this one should work without problems. The modem should work, too - maybe it'll need some tweaking:

http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/linux_conexant_pci_adsl.html

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thank u for the help.

[markwolfe Veteran]

I would like to switch to Ubuntu... but i have a few concerns about how apps and drivers are installed, they seem way different than windows.

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Here is an example of a common application install manager.

The whole Open Source world of software is at your fingertips. Select what you want and install it. This same system will also keep every single application on your box up to date with the latest fixes and new features for free. (Y)

[Andy07]

Here is an example of a common application install manager.

The whole Open Source world of software is at your fingertips.  Select what you want and install it.    This same system will also keep every single application on your box up to date with the latest fixes and new features for free.  (Y)

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amazing :woot:

[Barney T. Administrators]

Mark and the others here are right. The "noob-friendly" distros are just as easy (if not easier) than Windows for the beginner. This may seem odd when you hear about all of the problems with hardware and such, but for the most part, it just works! Look at the lists here for the most recommended "noob-friendly" distro and give it a whirl. Try the Live CD version first and see if it "feels right" to you. Then you can install it and dig in!

Even in the Windows forums there are posts after posts about various issues............ so all OSs have there issues. :rofl:

Barney

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Here is an example of a common application install manager.

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Except that, in Debian, Synaptic would list 18,000 packages rather than 4,800. :whistle:

[vincent]

Except that, in Debian, Synaptic would list 18,000 packages rather than 4,800.  :whistle:

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Either way Synaptic ****en owns!!! just firing up that app makes me almost orgasm everytime :blush:

[markwolfe Veteran]

Except that, in Debian, Synaptic would list 18,000 packages rather than 4,800.  :whistle:

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Except I don't want to wade through 4x the crap I don't need or want to get the app I am after. :p

Oh, how I long for the days when I could ban you! :rofl:

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Either way Synaptic ****en owns!!! just firing up that app makes me almost orgasm everytime :blush:

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I update daily. :ninja:

I get annoyed if there are only about half a dozen packages that have changed since the day before.

[+Batfink Subscriber²]

The whole Open Source world of software is at your fingertips.  Select what you want and install it.    This same system will also keep every single application on your box up to date with the latest fixes and new features for free.  (Y)

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(Y) Yep, Ubuntu rocks :fro:

[Barney T. Administrators]

Either way Synaptic ****en owns!!! just firing up that app makes me almost orgasm everytime :blush:

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Whoa! Love life not what it used to be??? (Just kidding!)

ROFLMAO :woot:

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Oh, how I long for the days when I could ban you! :rofl:

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Mod fight! :trout:

[+BudMan MVC]

Except that, in Debian, Synaptic would list 18,000 packages rather than 4,800.  :whistle:

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I fail to understand the significance? Synaptic is just a GUI frontend to apt, is in not?? apt has been ported, I know it will run on fedora, ubuntu, suse, etc.. ;) Synaptic could be compiled on basically any linux distro running Gtk+ 2.4 can it not?

Would not pulling up a listing of 18k entries be a waste of time and resources when looking for a specific item or type of item? And again would not the amount of listings be determined by which and the number of repositories you are using.. ;)

You can also run more than one package management system, etc..

[Fred Derf Veteran]

I fail to understand the significance?  Synaptic is just a GUI frontend to apt, is in not??  apt has been ported, I know it will run on fedora, ubuntu, suse, etc.. ;)  Synaptic could be compiled on basically any linux distro running Gtk+ 2.4 can it not?

Would not pulling up a listing of 18k entries be a waste of time and resources when looking for a specific item or type of item?  And again would not the amount of listings be determined by which and the number of repositories you are using.. ;)

You can also run more than one package management system, etc..

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I am using the standard Debian repositories (okay, I've added the experimental Gnome 2.10 and KDE 3.4 repositories but these only update existing packages, they don't really add to the over-all count significantly).

The Debian repositories (.DEBs) are considerable more complete than the apt4rpm repositories (which, I gather, are stored in .RPM format)

Generally speaking, almost everything that you could ever think of is stored in the Debian repositories.

If you need to find something you search. There are also category views (Gnome, KDE, games, etc...)

[Hurmoth]

Mod fight! :trout:

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Mod fight with fish :x Smelly!

[Fred Derf Veteran]

One thing that I would really, really, like to see in Synaptic is the date of when the package was last updated.

Am I missing something obvious? I know you can have Synaptic tell you which packages are new since your last update (or whatever) but when deciding between two similar packages I'd like to know which one is more current (and likely still in active development) without doing a search on sourceforge.

[Hurmoth]

One thing that I would really, really, like to see in Synaptic is the date of when the package was last updated.

Am I missing something obvious?  I know you can have Synaptic tell you which packages are new since your last update (or whatever) but when deciding between two similar packages I'd like to know which one is more current (and likely still in active development) without doing a search on sourceforge.

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I've never used Synaptic, so I don't know all of it's features, but is there a way to right-click and view the properties of the package and see a compiled date or something like that? In YaST, there is a build date if you check under Technical Data, so I didn't know if Synaptic had anything like that :unsure:

[LaNcom]

Don't know about APT, but with Portage, that's possible. Each package comes with a changelog, including the creation and ebuid-update dates (but I don't know if any frontend parses that info):

alsa-lib Changelog:

[...]

*alsa-lib-1.0.9 (27 May 2005)

27 May 2005; Jan Brinkmann <[email protected]> +alsa-lib-1.0.9.ebuild:

New upstream version released, see #94196.

*alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc3 (05 May 2005)

05 May 2005; Jeremy Huddleston <[email protected]>

-files/alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2-87099.patch,

-files/alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2-gcc4.patch, -alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc2-r1.ebuild,

+alsa-lib-1.0.9_rc3.ebuild:

Version bump.

[...]

[Fotix]

In Synaptic, you highlight a package and go to the menu (with your cursor) Package -> Download Changelog. Sometimes there's date information within, sometimes not.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

In Synaptic, you highlight a package and go to the menu (with your cursor) Package -> Download Changelog.  Sometimes there's date information within, sometimes not.

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I want them to add a column so we can sort by date.

I'll look into the changelog.