iPod mini or iRiver H10?

[kingbob]

Can't decide...

H10 5GB and iPod 4GB :)

[spiegel]

i river h10 all the way!

:yes:

[username();]

h10 :)

[chmsant]

mini.... iPods aren't the number 1 selling MP3 player for nothing. They obviously work.. Not to say that iRiver doesn't have a good player...

[giga Veteran]

I say try them out yourself before even thinking of buying either of them. It is ALL personal preference.

[Liquid]

mini....  iPods aren't the number 1 selling MP3 player for nothing.  They obviously work.. Not to say that iRiver doesn't have a good player...

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The reason they are is marketing. Which iRiver has zero of that.

The H10 is a far superior product. Quality wise, and just overall. I have an iPod, and hate it. Itunes sucks, sure its great for people that don't know what they are doing, but most people now do.

cswadner...come on, kill the apple fanboyishm for a minute, please?

[giga Veteran]

^ Well I don't know about you, but I have an iPod, and I love it. iTunes as well. Probably one of the greatest music library managers ever. And I know what I'm doing I can tell you that.

This isn't fanboyism, this is MY PREFERENCE.

[chmsant]

The reason they are is marketing.  Which iRiver has zero of that.

The H10 is a far superior product.  Quality wise, and just overall.  I have an iPod, and hate it.  Itunes sucks, sure its great for people that don't know what they are doing, but most people now do.

cswadner...come on, kill the apple fanboyishm for a minute, please?

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Honestly it does come down to personal preference. And don't assume apple fanboy just because of my sig. I use my windows desktop (from which i am currently posting) just as much as my powerbook. I repair windows boxes all day long. There is no fanboy here. I could use the same arguement for your support for the H10.

[ZZOOzzoo]

iRiver H10 has a better screen, better sound quality, better battery life, not to mention that the battery's detachable.

iRiver H10 has features that are missing in iPod mini such as FM radio/recording and voice recording, and it will save you A LOT of money because you don't have to spend extra money on accessories.

I don't think it's really hard to make the choice. :whistle:

I'm an iPod user; in fact, I have two iPods. However, that's only because I'm a Mac user and iPod is one of very few decent music players that are compatible with Mac. Two of my friends bought iRiver H10 based on my recommendation and they're very happy with the product without any problem.

[Ambience]

It's sort of difficult to accuse somebody of being an iRiver fanboy, especially as it's not a trend. iPods are a trend, nothing more. Fanboyism is not only a term for the unwavering support of a person for a company/object, there's also a certain naivety and ignorance attributed to it. The average person buying a H10 would have clocked more time researching every aspect of it than somebody who has bought an iPod. For somebody to even know about the H10 itself requires far more research than someone who knows about the iPod.

iPods are very easy to use, and the software bundled with it probably has an age requirement of about 10. Again, as stated by GT, it's personal preference. If you like simplicity and jumping on the bandwagon (white earbuds anyone?) then you'd probably buy the iPod. If you technically superior music player, buy the H10.

[kingbob]

I think I'm going to go with the H10. Thanks guys!

[PaulCabby]

Nice one. I've got a H10 and i love it :D Good old drag and drop does the job for me (with easyh10).

[PrototypeX2]

Yes I can also see that my reference to the player brought happiness to the owners XD

[PaulCabby]

Yes I can also see that my reference to the player brought happiness to the owners XD

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It certainly did mate :p

[IK47]

iRiver H10 = Lousy

The iRiver is really buggy, even after firmware updates. Geez, it takes 8 seconds to power on / off. I bought one, and got a really good deal on it. Yet I still refunded it. A good looking product, but is not refined enough to be sold.

Apple iPod Mini = Nice.

I don't generally like iPods, but the iPod mini is pretty nice. I like the strong aluminum casing which gives it a good pro style.

You + Silver 6GB iPod Mini + B&O Earphones + iPod mini Dock = Very Good.

[RD_SG]

Bought an H10 when it first came out. It's kickass. Havn't had any problems with it except yes, it takes a little bit to turn off.

I recently bought the Creative Zen Micro and the PSP and they are both sweet. :)

[Slimy]

iriver>ipod.

[Pink Floyd Veteran]

I own the 2gen of mini (6gb)

a beast!

I saw the iriver and didnt like it

matter of preference and taste

[ninjakarl]

iRiver h10, more storage and has better sound.

[infinitex]

I just got my 5gb h10 in the mail and as a previous owner of a 4th gen iPod, I can honestly say the the H10 kicks the iPod's ass. I could not be any more happier with my purchase :yes:

[MonkeyKombat]

I own a second gen iPod mini (4Gb). Though I haven't personally seen the iRiver, I'm quite pleased with my purchase.

Battery life, sound and especially the controls are all good.

[Sarm]

iRiver players have been way ahead of Apple for quality, performance and value for money for the past 2-3 years.

Those that do the research and forget what they look like and what is "cool", will buy an iRiver.

When I bought my first iRiver over 2 years ago, I compared them, here's my results:

iRiver IHP-140 vs iPod 40GB

Reasons for iRiver

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1. It's a standard 40GB hard drive, no software required.

(MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME)

2. It does NOT require a computer, can create MP3's straight from a Hi-Fi etc

Directly via optic, or analog input (also has digital optic out)

3. It has encoders built in.

4. Supports MP3 (MPEG 1/2/2.5 Layer 3)

WMA, ASF, WAV & OGG Vorbis (32Kbps ~ 500Kbps, 44.1KHz)

5. FM radio remote with LCD (supplied free)

6. Twice as much battery playback time compared to iPod

(iRiver is 16hrs, iPod is 8hrs)

7. Lighter (172g vs iPod 175g) ()

8. Voice recording to MP3 etc (via internal mic), or record FM

9. Reads all types of ID3 tags, V1. V2.0, 3.0 & 4.0.

(I CANNOT find documentation for iPod, but it doesn't do all versions)

10. Magnesium case.

11. NO DRM restrictions whatsoever

Reasons against

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1. No Firewire (although this does not bother me)

2. iPod is slightly smaller

iPod : 60.9(W) X 18.5(D) X 104(H)mm

iRiver: 60.0(W) X 24.0(D) X 105(H)mm

3. No docking station

I honestly can't find any other reasons against the iRiver it looks that much better!

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iRiver claim s/n ratio is better than iPod, but they also say since Apple will

NOT release official s/n figures they can not show their results for legal reasons.

Now, obviously both those models have moved on and the mini ipod vs H10 will differ, but most of those features above still compare.

[Garry]

Yeah!

iRiver has better features, longer battery life, supports more formats, is lighter, no DRM.

... Buy the iPod! :D

[xe9rox]

iriver all the way

[Sarm]

I do feel VERY sorry for Apple users and the whole DRM thing they're locked too.

That reason in itself was enough for me to look at iRiver players, I refuse to touch iTunes and anything to do with DRM.

Also,

Why do people pay so much for music on iTunes when you can buy it for less than half the price at places like allofmp3.com without DRM!