i know there are V6, V8, V10...... V20 engines..
but do V2 and V4 engines exist? i've never heard of it or heard anyone talk about it, as far as i know, anything below 6 cylinders (for a car) is an inline4 engine (yes i know there's also inline6..but not the point)
my dad says there are many cars all over europe with V4 engines. if so, why aren't there any in the US?
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| Post #1 Dec 7 2005, 23:34 | |
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fiction.  Group: Registered Posts: 2,120 Joined: 25-January 04 From: Dallas Member No.: 46,003
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Inlines last longer. And motorcycles might have a variation of a v2. I thought they were called twins, but we'll see.
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I'm just a face in the crowd  Group: Registered Posts: 1,712 Joined: 3-February 02 From: Purgatory Member No.: 9,316
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The Geo Metro had a 3 cyclinder engine.
Also, the VW Jetta has a 5 cylinder: http://cars.about.com/od/volkswagen/ss/ag_05jetta_gall_7.htm V-Engine configurations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_engine |
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| Post #4 Dec 8 2005, 00:32 | |
Devils Never Cry... Group: Registered Posts: 1,041 Joined: 21-December 03 From: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic Member No.: 43,263
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V2 and V4 engines DO exist, my country is full of 'em
 almost all japan cars have a V4 engine (at least all 2000 and below). Why doesn't northamerica has? Dunno 
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QUOTE(XanoZuke @ Dec 7 2005, 19:32) [snapback]586893269[/snapback] V2 and V4 engines DO exist, my country is full of 'em almost all japan cars have a V4 engine (at least all 2000 and below). Why doesn't northamerica has? Dunno you sure it aint an i4? |
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| Post #6 Dec 8 2005, 01:31 | |
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QUOTE(pto @ Dec 7 2005, 17:16) [snapback]586893180[/snapback] Inlines last longer. And motorcycles might have a variation of a v2. I thought they were called twins, but we'll see. i think you're right on that.. so it seems that they do exist, but now i need to find out why they don't sell/make/import them here. |
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| Post #7 Dec 8 2005, 01:32 | |
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Resident Elite Group: Registered Posts: 1,286 Joined: 23-March 05 Member No.: 102,311
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WTH there's no such thing as V4 because the cylinders of a four-cylinder car aren't shaped in a "V" (anymore, the wikipedia article said it did until the 60's
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I GOT FRAGS I GOT FRAGS!!!! Group: Registered Posts: 3,074 Joined: 25-June 03 From: Gulf Breeze, FL Member No.: 31,490
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There are 'V-2' in motorcycles, better known as twits. (Harley Davidson, Ducatis) and a few V-4s in motorcycles (Honda Interceptor is the only one I know of off the top of my head). Honda's RC211V MotoGP bike is a V-5.
But V-4s don't make enough power to justify the cost of mass producing them. You can get more power out of an inline 4 and with an inline 4 you only have to make 1 cylinder head and whatnot. make sence? |
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Sexy Group: +Subscriber Posts: 14,494 Joined: 19-November 02 From: L.A. Member No.: 19,461
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great, thats what i wanted to read.. i just won myself a $50 bet
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Kya! Group: Registered Posts: 2,657 Joined: 28-December 02 Member No.: 20,981
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Wait. I thought most cars were stock with a V4?
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nope..
i did some more research.. looks like Ford was still producing V4 engines until the late 80's.. they have these cargo vans, i don't know the model name, but they're running on V4 engines.. and they simply don't use them now since they are not reliable and very low in power.. a 1700cc V4 only produces about 68HP.. while an inline4 1700cc produces.. what? 130HP?? and just looking at pictures of a V4.. it just looks cheap and weak.. like an oversized lawn mower engine. |
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| Post #12 Dec 8 2005, 05:34 | |
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fiction. Group: Registered Posts: 2,120 Joined: 25-January 04 From: Dallas Member No.: 46,003
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Also: Inline sixes have more torque, so most suvs will stray away from the v-6.
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Piston configuration does not has as much to do with torque as displacement does. An inline-6 and a V-6 with similar displacement and similar amounts of technology will produce very similar torque numbers. Just for illustration purposes, I'll give some figures below.
BMW 3.0 I6: 220lb-ft Honda 3.0 V6: 211lb-ft Now for the SUV engine comparison... GM 4.2 I6: 277lb-ft Nissan 4.0 V6: 291lb-ft |
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QUOTE(Dallas @ Dec 8 2005, 01:46) [snapback]586893528[/snapback] But V-4s don't make enough power to justify the cost of mass producing them. You can get more power out of an inline 4 and with an inline 4 you only have to make 1 cylinder head and whatnot. make sence? Doesn't make sense to me at all... Let's wind back to 1963 when 100bhp was a lot in a European family saloon. Lancia (who produced the first V engines) had a V4 engine that in 1.1 form made 60bhp, and later 70bhp. That's pretty good for a modern 1.1 car, let alone a 40 year old one. In 1.6 form it put out a very healthy 135bhp. That's a lot even today - 85bhp / litre. So, V4's can put out as much power as an inline 4. (For comparison, the contemporary European (Ford) Lotus Cortina put out 105bhp from a 1.6, and it was classed as a performance car in it's day) V2's are also known as V-Twins and are common in bikes. |
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| Post #15 Dec 8 2005, 16:10 | |
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QUOTE(XanoZuke @ Dec 7 2005, 19:32) [snapback]586893269[/snapback] V2 and V4 engines DO exist, my country is full of 'em almost all japan cars have a V4 engine (at least all 2000 and below). Why doesn't northamerica has? Dunno Unless Nissan, Toyota, Honda and the lot all engineered totally different engine lines for NA and Japan, you have I-4s also. The reason there aren't (many) V-4s is that an inline cylinder engine is inherently smoother and more stable (and hence more reliable in the long run) than a V-configuration. So whenever, possible (read: whenever space permits), manufacturers use an inline engine. Most cars, however, don't have the space for an inline-6 unless it's very precisely engineered (BMW, Porsche), and they don't want to spend the money/time so they stick a V-6 in there. V-configurations -- and VW's new "W" configuration -- are all more compact than inlines. So in short, given the space it's better to use an inline-cylinder engine. Which is why you always see inline-4s. |
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