win 98 fan Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Hello again! An colleague told me to write this because he/she isn't registered here I think: Windows 98 + ME *still* alive campaign Spread the word Actually, Windows 98 (FE = First Edition), 98 SE (Second Edition) + ME (Millennium Edition) are *still* alive and well. Please keep in mind that Windows 9x [95/98/ME] based OSes are installed on over 70 million computers, out of which 50 million are running Windows 98, 98 SE or ME. Most small companies, charities, schools and a lot of individuals cannot afford to upgrade to Windows XP or any other OS, even Linux, because they don't have the necessary resources and/or knowledge. True, Linux distros are free, but someone needs to install, service, repair and maintain [in many cases] a large number of [eventually networked] computers, no matter what OS they may run, and those IT technicians must get paid. Sure, the KDE/Gnome interface may look familiar to most Windows users, but there will be a learning curve to make use of it. Do you think people are willing to go through such pain just to upgrade their good-working 98/ME computers? Ask them yourself. Besides, those good ol' 9x based OSes are fairly easy and cheap to maintain and troubleshoot, even if Microsoft won't help anymore. ;) The point is that... Enthusiast power users, programmers and IT specialists provide *free* support in their spare time at various web sites, forums, blogs etc. MSFN.org is the best known support forum for Windows 98, 98 SE + ME, and all updates, service packs, fixes, patches, enhancement packs etc... are free: Unofficial 98 SE Service Pack forum: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showforum=91 95/98/98 SE/ME forum: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showforum=8 Your questions + comments are usually answered in a timely fashion by knowledgeable forum members. This way Windows 98/98 SE/ME OSes can be safely used even on modern, fast computers for every conceivable purpose, including playing hardware demanding games [if you have the necessary hardware that is ;)], desktop publishing, 3D graphics rendering, high-end A/V editing, CD/DVD burning, programming, internet browsing etc. * System Updates: 98 SE SP2: http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html 98 FE SP1: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=44732 ME SP1: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=61407 Native USB Drivers for 98 SE: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=43605 MS IE 6.0 SP1 Updates Pack: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=77706 98/98 SE Upgrade Pack: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=72297 98 SE Cumulative Update: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=50611 98, 98 SE + ME updates + (hot)fixes: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46581 * Enhancement + Transformation Packs: 98SE2ME: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=46349 98SEMP10: http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm#98MP10 Revolutions Pack: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=58357 Kernel XP: http://www.msfn.org/board/?showtopic=71476 * Individual OS Updates: 98: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#W98 98 SP1: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#SP1 98 SE: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#98SE ME: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#WME 95 FE (First Edition) + OSR1: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#WIN 95 OSR2: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#OSR2 * Essential System Add-Ons + Tools: http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm DirectX Fixes, Updates + Tools: http://www.mdgx.com/dx.htm Internet Explorer Fixes + Updates: http://www.mdgx.com/ietoy.htm Windows Media Player Fixes + Updates: http://www.mdgx.com/wmp.htm Drivers + Tools: http://www.mdgx.com/drv.htm * Security, Firewalls, Anti-Spyware + Anti-Virus tools [free(ware)]: Security: http://www.mdgx.com/modem.htm#TS Firewalls: http://www.mdgx.com/fw.htm#FWL Anti-Spyware: http://www.mdgx.com/fw.htm#ASP Anti-Virus: http://www.mdgx.com/vir.htm * Tips, secrets, guides + troubleshooting: All Windows OSes: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip.htm 98, 98 SP1 + 98 SE: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip98.htm ME: http://www.mdgx.com/wme.htm Registry: http://www.mdgx.com/reg.htm W95-11D.EXE: http://www.mdgx.com/95.htm MSDOS.SYS: http://www.mdgx.com/msdos.htm SYSTEM.INI: http://www.mdgx.com/lastweek.htm#SYSINI DOS: http://www.mdgx.com/secrets.htm Easter Eggs: http://www.mdgx.com/egg.htm * Free(ware) software: 95/98/ME + NT4/2000/XP/2003: http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm Diagnostic, Testing + Benchmarking: http://www.mdgx.com/speed.htm Backup, Recovery + Hard Disk: http://www.mdgx.com/secrets.htm#FDPT CD + DVD: http://www.mdgx.com/drv.htm#CDR Video + Audio: http://www.mdgx.com/drv.htm#DRV http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#MED Internet: http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#WEB DOS: http://www.mdgx.com/dos.htm * Other related web sites + forums: 98/ME web sites: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip98.htm#98L 95/98/ME forums: http://www.mdgx.com/newtip98.htm#98F Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 you wont get my support, i personally believe this should have been done a long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool_chris_1990 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Who really uses windows 98 now a days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoLdFuSi0n Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Lots Mike Frett 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookadum Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 A LOT of people. Don't assume it's not in use anymore. There are people who don't want to shell out the cash for Windows 2000 or XP, nor upgrade their PCs to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 i know alot of people still use it, hopefully it will either make them get 2000 or XP or they will just have to live without support from MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I agree with Rudy - there is really no excuse to still be using anything except XP or 2000. Support for all other versions of Windows should have ended years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravensworth Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Old, outdated, unstable, insecure software. Just let it die. Personally if you want you can use CP/M but stupid campaigns and petitions are pointless. Microsoft is not going to support them anymore, they're discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewind. Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 yeaaahhhh windows 98 woooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookadum Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 These people AREN'T asking for support from Microsoft: Enthusiast power users, programmers and IT specialists provide *free* support in their spare time at various web sites, forums, blogs etc. There's a lot of support on the web for almost all issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaic Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 um its not liek you have to have an uber-pwn dem all computer to run XP. Xp in todays tech is not really demanding high specs. now Vista, imo, is a different story. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKuro Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 you wont get my support, i personally believe this should have been done a long time ago I agree with this . . Xp is already 5 years old . . . and it can run on nearly any computer configuration. . . if people haven't adopted this standard, then sorry . . but a line must be drawn. So guys just let it die already and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 i've had a guy call me (i do tech support :x) with a pentium 4 3.4ghz and 1.5gb ram running Win98 because he didnt want to fork over the money for an OEM copy of XP and he was wondering why his system wasnt as fast as he was expecting lol (he built the computer himself.....prolly used some tape to make sure everything is staying together lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win 98 fan Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 I agree with this . . Xp is already 5 years old . . . and it can run on nearly any computer configuration. . . if people haven't adopted this standard, then sorry . . but a line must be drawn. So guys just let it die already and move on Please consider that some operatings systems are still supported by Microsoft that came before Windows ME. And that Windows 98 +ME are still used by 70 Million users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool_chris_1990 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 just wondering, how many people have you got to surport you so far? the office count, not guess or fake number . I agree with cooljerk_dv. just let it die and move on. just use your windows 98 system for music, or something . why waste time. microsoft wont listen to you. it was orgnaly gona end in 2003 but extended it till 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDewCodeRedFreak Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I agree too, just let it die already. I am personally glad I wasn't using 98 anymore when I switched over to XP Home, then XP Pro in 2004-2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazkowicz Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 those who say win98 is for dinosaurs and so on.. mind your own onions! (er, probably not something usually said in english? :D) I used win98SE till one year ago and it had some advantages (on my XP2400+, which had 768MB RAM at the time). much faster boot time (a few seconds), instant shutdown, near perfect DOS support (native speed, sound and working IPX networking. unmatched by DOSbox, where anything more demanding than doom is unplayable). exit windows to pure DOS mode, and you can flash BIOS and firmware without even technically rebooting. and I could do anything (gaming, browsing, audio, video, etc.). I played doom3 (not for long as it was boring, but I'm playing it again now) and could run the hl2 demo. immune to the worms that striked windoze NT. it even can have some holes but lack the infection vector (WMF hole). don't use IE and don't execute viruses in your mail, and the OS is secure. Biggest issue I had was the limitation to 64K GDI resources, from the 16bit days. it's a problem with a few apps that leak such resources such as old phoenix/firebird versions (but that got fixed later, and you could prevent it with a setting in about:config), and steam. now I wouldn't go back from NT 5.x (better kernel, task manager, some NT only things installed, and comparable UI experience once you've spent time learning to disable the crap). but still lacking the easy and excellent DOS compatibility. (sucks to have great old games collecting dust) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZappBrannigan Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I understand that it might be faster, but if you go back to dos i bet thats even faster! Please keep in mind that Windows 9x [95/98/ME] based OSes are installed on over 70 million computers, out of which 50 million are running Windows 98, 98 SE or ME. Am I the only one that can't get their head round this sentence? :s Maybe i'm just tired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windows95isg8 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I understand that it might be faster, but if you go back to dos i bet thats even faster! Am I the only one that can't get their head round this sentence? :s Maybe i'm just tired! lol no it does not make sense. so 20 million pc's have windows 98/me installed. there just not working lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3xis Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hello again! An colleague told me to write this because he/she isn't registered here I think: Uh...forgive me for being off topic, but you aren't able to tell the sex of your colleague? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted July 15, 2006 Veteran Share Posted July 15, 2006 Hey, this is what Windows FLP is for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Yes, die WinME and older... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p858snake Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I personally dont mind using 98 for games and such but yes a line must be drawn and support ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdar Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I agree with Rudy - there is really no excuse to still be using anything except XP or 2000. Support for all other versions of Windows should have ended years ago. Not everyone can afford to upgrade, Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 It can't stay around forever. It has to go eventually. that time is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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