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[Diagramatic]

Hi there,

I was wondering what people's load times of VS 2010 is. I'm trying to establish if my PC needs upgrading and that VS 2010 could be faster if that was the case.

My PC is Aspire 7540g, AMD Athlon II X2 M300, Mobility Radeon HD4570, 4GB, 7200 RPM drive, W7-64Bit, VS2010SP1.

My WEI is processor 4.9, Memory 7.0, Graphics 4.9, Gaming Graphics 6.3, Hard Disk 5.9

Initial load of VS 2010 is 25-30 seconds, subsequent loading times around 20 seconds.

Thanks,
Simon.

[virtorio]

On my MacBook Pro running Windows 7 in a virtual machine it takes 11 seconds initially and about 2 seconds on subsequent loads.

WEI is 4.4

[Jen Smith]

A lot of it can depend on your addons too. An out-of-the-box install can load rather quickly, a few seconds on my machine if I recall. Once I load it up with various addons, it can take a fair bit longer. CodeRush/ReSharper/etc tend to be the biggest offenders there.. absurdly handy but also takes a fair bit extra in time and resources to run. As much as I love the 2010 IDE, it can be fairly piggish.. pretty quick once it's up and running (if you got the memory for it), not so much when it first starts up.

Depending on your needs of course you don't have to use the IDE. Occasionally I'll just work with another editor for quick changes, large builds I tend to do from a console versus the IDE, etc etc. Shoot I've even used VIM on occasion for giggles when I'm in a retro mood.

[Riva]

Jen Smith, on 11 June 2011 - 12:29, said:

Depending on your needs of course you don't have to use the IDE. Occasionally I'll just work with another editor for quick changes, large builds I tend to do from a console versus the IDE, etc etc. Shoot I've even used VIM on occasion for giggles when I'm in a retro mood.

Thats hardcore! I hope you are a woman IRL cos I am turned on

Diagramatic, on 11 June 2011 - 09:25, said:

Hi there,

I was wondering what people's load times of VS 2010 is. I'm trying to establish if my PC needs upgrading and that VS 2010 could be faster if that was the case.

My PC is Aspire 7540g, AMD Athlon II X2 M300, Mobility Radeon HD4570, 4GB, 7200 RPM drive, W7-64Bit, VS2010SP1.

My WEI is processor 4.9, Memory 7.0, Graphics 4.9, Gaming Graphics 6.3, Hard Disk 5.9

Initial load of VS 2010 is 25-30 seconds, subsequent loading times around 20 seconds.

Thanks,
Simon.

A laptop wont do any favours to VS 2010 performance-wise. If you are thinking of upgrading your machine then I suggest you go for a faster processor and by that I mean operations per cycle and not GHz.
On a 7.9 machine it takes about 2 seconds to load.
A development VM I am using at work makes me curse it for been slow and unresponsive

[Asesh]

VS 2010 is slow. I have already seen so many guys who have switched back to VS 2008 because of sluggishness of VS 2010. Even on my Core i7 it takes more than 5 seconds to load. SP1 didn't fix the problem either (Nothing new, the same thing happened with Vista too)

[Jen Smith]

Asesh, on 11 June 2011 - 12:42, said:

VS 2010 is slow. I have already seen so many guys who have switched back to VS 2008 because of sluggishness of VS 2010. Even on my Core i7 it takes more than 5 seconds to load. SP1 didn't fix the problem either (Nothing new, the same thing happened with Vista too)

Just my own observations, but VS2010 is slow to load on a cold start, subsequent loads typically take a couple seconds tops. Once it's up and running I personally found it to be significantly quicker than 2008, never mind missing the platform and IDE features that aren't available in 2008.

[neufuse]

turn the splash off, MS put a programmed delay in it on the first load to make it show, after that it doesn't not sure how they pulled that off but they somehow did... add the argument /nosplash to devenv.exe for the VS link you will cut a few seconds off the initial load time

[Riva]

Asesh, on 11 June 2011 - 12:42, said:

VS 2010 is slow. I have already seen so many guys who have switched back to VS 2008 because of sluggishness of VS 2010. Even on my Core i7 it takes more than 5 seconds to load. SP1 didn't fix the problem either (Nothing new, the same thing happened with Vista too)

Visual Studio is a lot more than an text editor and in fact it has a lot more going on in the background compared to most applications you use. Load time isn't everything; I prefer it running faster after it loaded instead of moaning about load times which happens once a day

[neufuse]

Asesh, on 11 June 2011 - 12:42, said:

VS 2010 is slow. I have already seen so many guys who have switched back to VS 2008 because of sluggishness of VS 2010. Even on my Core i7 it takes more than 5 seconds to load. SP1 didn't fix the problem either (Nothing new, the same thing happened with Vista too)

oh please, every freaking VS release I hear this same comment...... VS 2002 is slow I went back to VS6..... VS 2005 is slow I went back to 2002, VS 2008 is slow I went back to VS2005...... now once a freaking gain..... VS2010 is slow,THEY ARE ALL SLOW! The IDE environment is MASSIVE no mater what with the flexability of the IDE it will be slow somewhere at somepoint, its a generic shell written to support ANY programming language if someone makes a add-in and templates for it...


If you want to see slow, our main solution has 120 projects in it (about 3 million lines of code).... it takes 5 MINUTES! to load but after that it's fine... biggest slow down is the setup projects, which for some reason are slow loading by nature... and source control get auto status update adds to it also

[neufuse]

Jen Smith, on 11 June 2011 - 12:29, said:

A lot of it can depend on your addons too. An out-of-the-box install can load rather quickly, a few seconds on my machine if I recall. Once I load it up with various addons, it can take a fair bit longer. CodeRush/ReSharper/etc tend to be the biggest offenders there.. absurdly handy but also takes a fair bit extra in time and resources to run. As much as I love the 2010 IDE, it can be fairly piggish.. pretty quick once it's up and running (if you got the memory for it), not so much when it first starts up.

Depending on your needs of course you don't have to use the IDE. Occasionally I'll just work with another editor for quick changes, large builds I tend to do from a console versus the IDE, etc etc. Shoot I've even used VIM on occasion for giggles when I'm in a retro mood.

have you ever opened a web.config file directly in VS2010 or VS2008 just to do a quick edit? external to the solution you are in, just like right click web.config open in VS?... we always have this odd delay, it takes about 1 minute to open the file like it has to think about what to do, after that opens fine and saves fine.... every one of our dev machines repos this... always been an odd behavior, and MS always closes our bugs on it as "by design"

[Riva]

Stewart Gilligan Griffin, on 11 June 2011 - 12:55, said:

have you ever opened a web.config file directly in VS2010 or VS2008 just to do a quick edit? external to the solution you are in, just like right click web.config open in VS?... we always have this odd delay, it takes about 1 minute to open the file like it has to think about what to do, after that opens fine and saves fine.... every one of our dev machines repos this... always been an odd behavior, and MS always closes our bugs on it as "by design"

I do it pretty much every day on a VM that is doing way too much and I have no responsiveness issues.

[GreyWolf]

Make sure you've updated to service pack 1. VS2010 loads almost instantly for me whether it's the first start of the day or 10th.

@SGG: Setup projects have always been slow due to the design-time dependency checking.

[Jen Smith]

Stewart Gilligan Griffin, on 11 June 2011 - 12:55, said:

have you ever opened a web.config file directly in VS2010 or VS2008 just to do a quick edit? external to the solution you are in, just like right click web.config open in VS?... we always have this odd delay, it takes about 1 minute to open the file like it has to think about what to do, after that opens fine and saves fine.... every one of our dev machines repos this... always been an odd behavior, and MS always closes our bugs on it as "by design"

Mmm I don't use much ASP.NET (more often than not I typically go the PHP route for web based stuff via VS.PHP, most of the servers I work with are running BSD and I'm not thrilled with Mono in its current state), most of the time I have VS loaded it's for PHP, a desktop application or a system service, some managed, some not. As a guess it's probably reparsing and validating dependencies, etc etc once it sees the file was changed, but I'm the wrong person to ask for troubleshooting ASP.NET.. I don't recall a delay though.

GreyWolf, on 11 June 2011 - 13:05, said:

Make sure you've updated to service pack 1. VS2010 loads almost instantly for me whether it's the first start of the day or 10th.

In my case it's probably my addons.. I have a bunch, and I know CodeRush/Refactor Pro is one of my biggest offenders. I can live with the delay though.. I love those addons to death. If I have it disabled though yea mine's near instant to start. That's on a current OS mind you; on a test VM running ye olde XP it's significantly longer thanks to a lack of SuperFetch.

[seasonic]

Is it a important issue?

[dtytfyiutiufg]

System: Dell Studio 17 laptop (purchased January 2009)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.53Ghz (T9400)
RAM: 2x2GB Samsung DDR2 PC2-6400
HDD: 2x Western Digital 320GB 7200RPM SATA2 (model: WD3200BJKT) - no RAID configuration just two independent drives running in AHCI mode. All applications are installed on the same drive as the operating system and pagefile.
Graphics: 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (dedicated)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
WEI: 5.3


VS 2010 Ultimate Cold Start: 7 seconds
VS 2010 Ultimate Warm Start: 3 seconds

VS 2008 Pro Cold Start: 2 seconds
VS 2008 Pro Warm Start: <1 second

Word 2010 Professional Plus Cold Start: 2 seconds
Word 2010 Professional Plus Warm Start: <1 second

VS 2010 is slower as the IDE is now WPF based. Disabling fancy effects but keeping hardware acceleration improves VS 2010 UI responsiveness and "snappiness" quite a bit.