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#1 MariosX

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:22

Hello!
I'm really thinking about upgrading my graphics card
Budget Range: 200-400€ [500 if it's really worth it]
I'm gonna use it mainly for gaming, what else?
I would like to run latest games on 1920*1080 resolution with max graphics

My system specs are these:

PSU: Coolermaster M850
CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.0 GHZ
M/B: MSI X58A-GD65
Memory: 3x2GB OCZ Intel Core i7 Edition (8-8-8-24) XMP Profile 1 @ 1600 Mhz
VGA: Sapphire HD4870 1GB
HDD: 80 Intel Postville SSD, 2x1TB Sata 2 WDD Caviar Black [Raid 0], 1x2TB Sata 3 WDD Caviar Black, 1x640GB Sata 3 Caviar Black [Gaming]
Case: Coolermaster COSMOS RC1000
Cooling: CPU Cooler: Coolermaster V8, Default air cooling

I heard Radeon 7000 series would be nice but I'm unsure.
By the way, should I switch to nvidia for PsysX support?


#2 Jub Fequois

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:28

You'll pretty much never notice any advantage by running PhysX, so to speak. Go for a 7950, or 7970 if you can afford it. Mine has been nothing short of amazing the month I've had it. Low power consumption, low heat, unmatched performance and great over locking potential... Can't go wrong.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:58

Isn't Nvidia new GPUs supposed to come out in next couple of months?
But if you can't be bothered then AMD HD79XX is the way to go.

#4 OP MariosX

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:10

More questions:
1) I noticed the 7XXX series have 3GB memory, will I need more RAM?
I remember one teacher of mine told me sometime, years ago, that VGA Cards allocate the same amount of your RAMs for example, in my case I've got 6GB RAM if I install a 7970 card it will allocate 3GB of my RAM so my remaining RAM will be 3GB for OS, games apps etc.

I never believed him neither now but I have never asked about it if it is true or not

2) Most cards have displayport can I switch them into hdmi with adapters?

#5 yxz

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:10

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Which Graphic card should I get?
radeon 7950

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By the way, should I switch to nvidia for PsysX support?
gpu-accelerated physx games:

Alice: Madness Returns
Batman: Arkham City
Dark Void
Darkest of Days
Mafia II
Metro 2033
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Sacred 2: Ice & Blood (expansion)
Star Trek DAC
Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Mirror's Edge
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
Unreal Tournament 3
Warmonger: Operation Downtown Destruction


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I noticed the 7XXX series have 3GB memory, will I need more RAM?
no (64-bit OS is a must)

#6 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:20

Radeon 7970 or at the very least 7950

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 13:44

View Postyxz, on 03 February 2012 - 11:10, said:

no (64-bit OS is a must)
I already have 64 bit, so what my teacher said back then is false?

View PostMuhammad Farrukh, on 03 February 2012 - 11:20, said:

Radeon 7970 or at the very least 7950
I haven't noticed, are they available for purchase?
Also which brand should I choose when they are fully out

#8 Muhammad Farrukh

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 13:50

Yes both of them are availabe and 7950 is a great card.
Whatever brand is cheaper. It doesn't really matter. Unless, of course, its a limited edition card or something, any brand will do

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 14:00

View PostMariosX, on 03 February 2012 - 11:10, said:

More questions:
1) I noticed the 7XXX series have 3GB memory, will I need more RAM?
I remember one teacher of mine told me sometime, years ago, that VGA Cards allocate the same amount of your RAMs for example, in my case I've got 6GB RAM if I install a 7970 card it will allocate 3GB of my RAM so my remaining RAM will be 3GB for OS, games apps etc.

I never believed him neither now but I have never asked about it if it is true or not
absolutely not true. your new graphics card has it's OWN memory. It does not use your system RAM. What he's referencing are integrated graphics chips that might borrow system ram.

no offense, but im kinda confused how you dont know more about video cards, yet you have that pretty awesome system...

#10 OP MariosX

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 15:06

View PostJdawg683, on 03 February 2012 - 14:00, said:

absolutely not true. your new graphics card has it's OWN memory. It does not use your system RAM. What he's referencing are integrated graphics chips that might borrow system ram.

no offense, but im kinda confused how you dont know more about video cards, yet you have that pretty awesome system...
i'm confused about what you are confused.
I simply asked based on what my teacher had said back then and "I never believed him neither now but I have never asked about it if it is true or not"
I had my doubts.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 17:54

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Virtualized video memory
In the context of graphics, virtualization means that individual processes (in user mode) cannot see the memory of adjacent processes even by means of insertion of forged commands in the command stream. WDDM drivers allow video memory to be virtualized,[3] and video data to be paged out of video memory into system RAM. In case the video memory available turns out to be insufficient to store all the video data and textures, currently unused data is moved out to system RAM or to the disk. When the swapped out data is needed, it is fetched back. Virtualization could be supported on previous driver models (such as the XP Driver Model) to some extent, but was the responsibility of the driver, instead of being handled at the runtime level.
http://en.wikipedia....ed_video_memory

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 02:37

I can pretty max out any game on my system so I'd personally recommend the 7950, as I'm not sure the 7970 is worth the increased cost unless you plan on going to higher resolution or eyefinity at some point. It'll probably be a few months for Nvidia to release Kepler, so if you didn't need it right this moment it may be worthwhile seeing what those look like (at the very least they'll likely drive current Radeon 7k series prices down).

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:14

Sorry for bumping this old thread...

Are we expecting a price drop in GTX 680? which brand offers the best cooling?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 17:16

View PostMariosX, on 13 April 2012 - 17:14, said:

Sorry for bumping this old thread...

Are we expecting a price drop in GTX 680? which brand offers the best cooling?
i wouldnt expect any price drop for many months. it's their flagship product.

best cooling - probably any card not based on the reference design.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:42

View PostMariosX, on 13 April 2012 - 17:14, said:

Sorry for bumping this old thread...

Are we expecting a price drop in GTX 680? which brand offers the best cooling?

Well, don't expect a price drop this soon, but I think, and many others too, that a higher model, a 685 might be on its way. That might bring its price down a bit, but not much.

Cards based on refrence design have a bit lower cooling technology, in general