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[DirtyLarry]

BudMan, on 11 February 2012 - 12:15, said:

Some details -- is your phone dhcp or static. Try setting it as static - does that fix it?

Are you wep or wpa, wpa2

So event 2 -- details.. No internet, does that mean you could not ping your router by iP, your pc was not working.. Did it have an IP, did it say it was disconnected from the wireless?

So in event 2 you never reset anything -- just left and then reconnected.

How do you have this other wireless network setup - as AP or are you double natting through the same internet connection. Is it different SSID, is it different security, if an access point then dhcp would be still off your main router. Or if your double natting its going to be second wireless having its own dchp. What are the scopes. For all I know you got a double nat going on with same network ip range?

In event 2 did your phone just then connect? Other than a blip in your connection I don't see how your phone would be to blame for that? And since you did not have to reset the router - or did you? Then its not a crash. Did your wireless phone ring - did the wife turn on the microwave when you lost connection?

All good questions. Let me see if I can answer them.

Have not tried assigning my iPhone with a Static IP. Will do that today.
WPA2
First question about Event 2, never looked at all of that.
Exactly, never reset anything, just left the network, went back in, and it was working.

And again admittedly, I am not an networking expert, far from it, but believe I have it set up as an Access Point.
Have it setup with a Static IP.
Subnet is 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1
Different SSID
Repeater Mode is disabled
Channel is 11 as I used an app called iStumblr for my Macbook and at the time that was an unused channel.
WDS Mode is disabled
Security is also WPA2
That is what I know about it. I had to refer to some documentation on the Support forums of TrendNET to get it up and running like that. I tried it as a repeater at one point, and it seemed to have degrade my overall connection pretty dramatically.

In Event 2, was not aware of what the iPhone was doing, it was all related to my Macbook Pro. Believe iPhone stayed connected.

[+BudMan]

As to it being an AP, where is the cable connected from router 1? Did you turn off dhcp on router2? Sounds like you setup static IP on the WAN?? Because lan IP is always static on any router. So that does not seem like AP to me.

Also you say its a different SSID? - not something you would do with an AP setup normally.

If you router does not have AP mode, to use it as AP you would connect it to your first router using a LAN port of the 2nd router. You would change the lan IP of the AP router to be on the same network as your 1st router. dhcp server would be off on the 2nd router using as AP. Wan interface on router used as AP is normally not used.

Only if it has AP mode where wan is added to the lan/wifi bridge would you be able to use it - and if you have this mode it might by default turn off dhcp server on this device. Maybe not?

You were not doing anything on the macbook pro that would cause an issue where you? It was not entering the network.. So your wireless network blipped -- if you have no event to relate to that.. Like I said maybe your wireless phone rang? Maybe your wife was cooking some popcorn. Maybe someone was driving by and was trying to hack you? There are like a freaking hundred things that could cause wireless network to blip.. Interference from wireless networks around you.

What SSID are you using? Are there any in the area that are the same? SSID should be UNIQUE, and it should be broadcast!!! Hiding provides NOTHING and just makes accessing your network harder, and can cause all kinds of problems.

We are squeaking out little tiny tidbits of info here - so we are on the right track. But you have given us nothing to work other than a odd wireless glitch.. Which yeah sorry to say it happens now and then no matter what how stable of router you have.

If you think its your iphone doing it.. Then you should be able to repeat that over and over again. So you say when you come home your iphone kills your wifi. ok then why does it not kill it after you have connected? Or does it -- disconnect your phone and then reconnect it to your wireless.. Does it reset your wifes vpn?

Then maybe it was a dupe ip from before that your phone had if doesn't do it on disconnect and reconnect. Need to know what IPs your devices where all using before, etc..

When it happens again -- what is actually wrong?? Is your pcs saying they are not connected to the wireless? Are they saying limited connectivity? Look at their IPs -- do they have any? Can you ping the router ip? your gateway from ipconfig /all on windows box, mac you can view from term and netstat -r will give you your gateway, etc.

What is your lease times if you have an IP, even just generally look at your windows pc now ipconfig /all what does it show for your dhcp lease? Is it hours, or days? When you have a problem again did it match up to end of lease or 50% mark of lease?

Details, Details, Details! You need to know the actual symptoms of what is happening and you need to understand what is going on with the phone if you believe its that. Just because you walk in the house and your wife says network is not working does not mean its your phone.. Could of been down for few minutes and you just walked in. If was your phone then you should be able to duplicate the problem with just disconnect and reconnect -- or just walking out of range with it and then back into range, etc.

Or change its IP to static that clearly does not conflict with anything on your current network, or setup a reservation so there is no way for it to get anything other than 1 specific IP. Some threads - which not sure are legit or not suggested that the way macs come back onto a network that they had a dhcp IP before don't verify that they can have that lease again and just start using the IP. With some routers that do not maintain lease records for long periods could reassign this IP to different device. So understanding your lease time could help in figuring out if this is the problem. But as I said before unless your phone like took the ip of the router -- it should not cause an issue with anything other than the device that it stepped on.