Kotaku Rumor: Next Playstation codenamed 'Orbis', 2013, AMD CPU

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While the official reveal of Sony's next home console could still be months away, if not longer, Kotaku has today learned some important details concerning the PlayStation 3's successor.

For one, the console's name?or at least its codename/working title?is apparently Orbis. And it's being planned for release in time for the 2013 holiday season.

The details in this story come from a reliable source who is not authorized to talk publicly about next-gen hardware but has shared correct information with us before. What they're telling us in specifics matches much of what we've heard and reported in generalities in recent weeks.

CURRENT SPECS

Our main source supplied some basic specs for the console, but as the future is always in motion, bear in mind these could easily change between now and the Orbis' retail release. Still, if you'd like to know what developers are being told to plan for now, here you go.

AMD x64 CPU

AMD Southern Islands GPU

The former, that's largely something we've heard before, but the latter is interesting. That's the name given to many of AMD's 2012 roster of high-end PC cards. The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160, which is far in excess of the needs of most current HDTV sets. It'll also be capable of playing 3D games in 1080p (the PS3 could only safely manage 3D at 720p).

http://orbis.scedev.net/ is a website, things like http://orbis2.scedev.net/ aren't.

Read all: http://kotaku.com/58...are-the-details

Anti-used games popping up again :/ Really not looking forward to DRM and next gen...

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Haha 4k, they said the PS3 would be capable of dual 1080P at 120FPS.

You'd need SLI/Crossfire GPU to do that kind of resolution.

Don't forget it also had dual output to play with 2 tvs and a built in router etc etc
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and the release will get pushed further for critical decision making and development (aka does not deliver or it tend to burn your carpet) ... and I do have a PS1/2/3 buahahhaha (playing on a 14inch crt TV) ....

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The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160

Weird thing to say, that: resolution has very little to do with GPU power. What matters is what it can reasonably display in that resolution.

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I really hope they ditch this idea of a new processor. I would rather they go with a much updated version of Cell that is backwards compatible. There's been a lot of impressive games done with the current architecture.

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Weird thing to say, that: resolution has very little to do with GPU power. What matters is what it can reasonably display in that resolution.

Exactly, so I don't see why people wouldn't believe it's going to be future proof for a resolution like that. The PS3 does 1080p but how many games run at 1080p? What does run at 1080p is all movies/media and the GUI.

Don't see why that can't happen at a resolution of 4096x2160 by the end of next year/2014 (movies/media/GUI).

Sony are going to be pushing 4k TVs/projectors and what not over the next 10 years, I mean they already are. The PS4 when released in ~2 years is going to be around for how long? If going by current trends, 5-10 years.

It's going to be capable of ouputing at a resolution of higher than 1080p, I'll hand you that bet with utmost confidence. Games however, 1080p will be the new standard.

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I have no doubt it can display in such resolutions, I just think it's not a particularly helpful thing to say as originally written in the story. If it was trying to say that it can display better-than-PS3 quality graphics at that resolution, that makes much more sense.

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Not that i trust any rumors, though the source has been right before... Were gonna go from current generation going from 'upscaled to 720/1080' to 4k video with 1080 in 3D? Sure that should be the power of next gen, but no way that will happen at a console pricepoint in the 2013 market, IMO. Know this relates only to Playstation etc, but if games continue to grow in size (and they will) does the microsoft rumor of a disc driveless console hold true at all? Nobody will want to digitally down a 2013/2014 copy of a game..."Yes i just bought my next Xbox/PS4 from the store! Whose excited to go home and download the 45GB game on launch day" :)

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I have no doubt it can display in such resolutions, I just think it's not a particularly helpful thing to say as originally written in the story. If it was trying to say that it can display better-than-PS3 quality graphics at that resolution, that makes much more sense.

I viewed the story when it came to specs as spouting raw hardware details, not really anything to do with saying Orbis games will run at 4k and be better than PS3 quality?

The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160, which is far in excess of the needs of most current HDTV sets. It'll also be capable of playing 3D games in 1080p (the PS3 could only safely manage 3D at 720p).

Of up to is the key point, just like the PS3 is capable of displaying games up to 1080p, but rarely does.

Quite frankly the 1080p 3D is more impressive than 4K, as we know 4K if true will simply be for video/media/lesser intensive games, even in 2013/2014. It's just too high a resolution to be cranking out AAA games in.

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The release date, if true, is really surprising. Most analysts were not predicting something so early. It also doesn't make so much sense for them to use Southern Islands GPUs in Q4 2013 when Sea Islands will have already been widely available since Q1 2013. It's not unlikely that the dev kits are simply not the exact architecture used in PS4 but are close enough for creating console launch titles.

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The GPUs in consoles are usually a generation ahead of their PC counterparts at the time of release.

uh, what?

The PS3 GPU is a modified 7x series nVidia card, released a while after 8x series were already on the market.

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Yeah, I am most interested in the whole 1080p 3D gaming claim, as that is what has by far hurt 3D gaming the most this generation IMO, the **** poor resolution of most games.

Could only imagine how good a game like Arkham City or AC:Revelations, which I thought the 3D was among the best so far this generation of both games (no coincidence they are both also open world 3rd person games), would look in 3D. Would finally make my TV worth it, although I will say I do enjoy the occasional BluRay in 3D. Would be real nice to see games in 1080p 3D.

But yeah as with all rumors, will believe it when I see it.

I will say it is real discouraging how with the rumors of both consoles, this new anti used games DRM keeps popping up. To me that is specifically done to get people used to the idea of the notion for what it inevitably happens. These rumors are in fact very calculated press releases at the end of the day. Specifically created for some true rumors, and some false rumors, but to plant the ideas of certain things in the consumers head.

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The GPUs in consoles are usually a generation ahead of their PC counterparts at the time of release.

uh, what?

The PS3 GPU is a modified 7x series nVidia card, released a while after 8x series were already on the market.

The first 8xxx card launched 8 November 2006. The PS3, based on the 7800 architecture, launched only 3 days later, 11 November 2006. Both the initial 8800's and the PS3 GPU used the same 90nm fab, so it can be argued the console had current gen hardware.

I will say it is real discouraging how with the rumors of both consoles, this new anti used games DRM keeps popping up. To me that is specifically done to get people used to the idea of the notion for what it inevitably happens. These rumors are in fact very calculated press releases at the end of the day. Specifically created for some true rumors, and some false rumors, but to plant the ideas of certain things in the consumers head.

Whether it's planned or not, I definitely think people get desensitized to the issue of DRM over time. I really hope the rumors aren't true, and to a certain extent, I think some of them can't be. While publishers might complain about loss of sales to used games, the fact is, these used games stores, like GameStop, also strongly drive new game sales. Would Sony really want to cut away at the business model of these retailers? And how will potential customers react if they can't even lend someone a full game? Then again, even when public opinion of DRM seems bad, if a game is good enough it will still sell well.

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Personally I don't see too much issue with the DRM in console games IF they bring the prices down maybe ?/$10 people are more than happy to buy games on Steam, why would consoles work any differently just because you hold the disc.

Regarding the 1080p 3D that would indeed be a nice option, however unlike you Larry I already think that some of the games out there look great in 3D. GT5, SSHD, Ico/SOTC, Uncharted 3 and more recently Sly Cooper all look good I feel. KZ3 looks okay but can sometimes look a bit grainy in my opinion.

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Soon as it said AMD CPU I stopped reading, I call fake. Considering the billions Sony spent on researching and creating Cell (plus all the time and money developers spent trying to come to grips with it) they can't afford to abandon it. I fully expect the PS4 to have a Cell based CPU. As for the GPU, well that one is up for grabs and could be anything. I just hope it'll be better though out this time (since the nVidia GPU in the PS3 was a last minute addition when Sony realized Cell wasn't capable of doing the graphics). This obviously is just my opinion and I'm probally totally wrong :p so take it with a pinch of salt...

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The first 8xxx card launched 8 November 2006. The PS3, based on the 7800 architecture, launched only 3 days later, 11 November 2006. Both the initial 8800's and the PS3 GPU used the same 90nm fab, so it can be argued the console had current gen hardware.

But wasn't PS3 launch delayed? I correct myself. At announcement, the GPU was a generation ahead.

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