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[qdave]

Kreuger, on 23 April 2012 - 02:43, said:

I cant afford those. Nor would I want to spend that much. Theyre freaking insane.

What if you go for an older t 510 or 410 model?
it is indeed more expensive but might be a better investment in the long run.

[Raa]

I'd recommend a Panasonic Toughbook if you're that heavy on your laptop.

Yes, they cost a fortune, but they take a beating.

[Kreuger]

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What if you go for an older t 510 or 410 model?

Even refurbs of those are freaking expensive.

[TEX4S]

alwaysonacoffebreak, on 22 April 2012 - 18:06, said:

Lenovos build quality...is a joke. Took mine to the repair shop 3 times in 4 months because the plastic henges just gave up all the time.

What you have to understand is computers are alot like cars. You have to pay if you want the good stuff. And some companies make good stuff and junk.

The ThinkPad T-series are just as insanely reliable as they ever were. The X-series falls into this same category. Anything that is not a T-series ThinkPad - is just another laptop/desktop & you might get something that last for several years - or it might be a nightmare -

In this thread, what you are seeing are people commenting on the crappiness of Lenovo, and people mentioning the company they work for has ThinkPads.

To illustrate if the T-series are reliable and worthy of the legendary status - watch any video of NASA, Microsoft, or google -- all T-series ThinkPads. I just saw a 1 hour documentary on Google - all ThinkPad's for the non-programmers (dont know about them). When I had my interview with Microsoft - everyone in there had a T420 just like mine. NASA documentary ? you guessed it, T-series.

I am on my 3rd T-series & 4th ThinkPad and I see no reason to change.

Now for the caveat: If you want a laptop to play games & watch movies & listen to music -- look elsewhere - these are business laptops. rugged, ugly, and dependable (built like a tank) -

I sold my friend my old T-60. It has a Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, and he put a WD Scorpio Black in there and it is a great laptop. - Look around - you can get a T-60 for about $200 - max out the RAM and slap an SSD in there and youve got a great laptop.

[Kreuger]

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The ThinkPad T-series are just as insanely reliable as they ever were. The X-series falls into this same category. Anything that is not a T-series ThinkPad - is just another laptop/desktop & you might get something that last for several years - or it might be a nightmare -

The one I mentioned in the original post is an X30 so I can attest to that.

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I sold my friend my old T-60. It has a Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, and he put a WD Scorpio Black in there and it is a great laptop. - Look around - you can get a T-60 for about $200 - max out the RAM and slap an SSD in there and youve got a great laptop.

I would prefer something with a bit more power and a little more future proof.


Could someone maybe recomend me another brand then that will be around the same price and specs as the E520?

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

The older Acers are actually quite good. I had my Aspire last me about 6 years until the Nvidia chip finally burned down. Not too sure how they are holding up right now.

[Stetson]

Kreuger, on 23 April 2012 - 04:16, said:

Could someone maybe recomend me another brand then that will be around the same price and specs as the E520?

I don't think you'll find anything more durable for the same price, unless you look for a used model on Ebay.

The Edge line is plastic body and doesn't have the super strong internal reinforcements of the older thinkpads, but I think that they're probaby still a bit more durable than a Dell or HP you would get in the same price range. We have three (two Edge 13s and one E520) that we use for field work and they've held up pretty well.

[TEX4S]

alwaysonacoffebreak, on 23 April 2012 - 07:06, said:

The older Acers are actually quite good. I had my Aspire last me about 6 years until the Nvidia chip finally burned down. Not too sure how they are holding up right now.

So you are saying because your one little computer lasted a long time - that all Acers are like that ?

Seriously ?

Well, no. They were never good, Acer is not in the business of making quality stuff. They became a large supplier from making inexpensive junk, they have always made inexpensive junk - and will always make inexpensive junk. You simply had junk that last for 6 years...

Before you ask where I get my info, as the norm when someone tells someone else they are wrong, its from experience of dealing with thousands of computers, and being an Acer warranty repair depot for a couple of years.

[alwaysonacoffebreak]

TEX4S, on 23 April 2012 - 13:43, said:

You simply had junk that last for 6 years...

You can't be serious. The Lenovo I had, now that was junk, the acer on the other hand had only scratches on it.

Try to hold down your fanboism first and then we'll talk again.

I know lots of people who had/have Acers, theres nothing wrong with them except minor cosmetical flaws.

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and being an Acer warranty repair depot for a couple of years.

And that couple of years makes you Mr. Know it all? Grow up.

EVERYTHING that is in mass-production will have flaws, the same goes for Acer, I'm not saying they are all good but calling something that last for 6 years junk and calling something that didn't last a month (which most lenovo series don't) not junk, yeah, fanboism in the highest crade.

Damn this forum is full of people that think they know everything about everything.

[AJerman]

Are you looking for something brand new? Or would something a little older do? I ask because if you were still using a P3, anything would be a huge upgrade to you. I can get you some really good deals on Lenovo's. PM me if you're interested.

Edit: Okay, so based on the E520 comment earlier, these may be a little lower specs than you're looking for. They look like they are all C2Ds, but the price is VERY good. Just lemme know.

alwaysonacoffebreak, on 23 April 2012 - 15:47, said:

Damn this forum is full of people that think they know everything about everything.

Welcome to the Internet. You must be new here.

[Kreuger]

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Are you looking for something brand new? Or would something a little older do? I ask because if you were still using a P3, anything would be a huge upgrade to you. I can get you some really good deals on Lenovo's. PM me if you're interested.

Edit: Okay, so based on the E520 comment earlier, these may be a little lower specs than you're looking for. They look like they are all C2Ds, but the price is VERY good. Just lemme know.

Yeah, my current laptop (Toshiba) is a C2D. I'd like to get at least an i3. I may get another C2D though. Does anyone have experience with Samsung laptops? I was looking at this one.

[TEX4S]

alwaysonacoffebreak, on 23 April 2012 - 15:47, said:

You can't be serious. The Lenovo I had, now that was junk, the acer on the other hand had only scratches on it.

Try to hold down your fanboism first and then we'll talk again.

I know lots of people who had/have Acers, theres nothing wrong with them except minor cosmetical flaws.



And that couple of years makes you Mr. Know it all? Grow up.

EVERYTHING that is in mass-production will have flaws, the same goes for Acer, I'm not saying they are all good but calling something that last for 6 years junk and calling something that didn't last a month (which most lenovo series don't) not junk, yeah, fanboism in the highest crade.

Damn this forum is full of people that think they know everything about everything.

LOL - I dont even know where to begin. So Let me get this straight - because you and your friends went out and pinched pennies, but it still opens a program after 6 years - that means all Acer products are good ? 6 years is not the norm, trust me on that.

Obviously I need to spell this out for you -
Whats more conclusive ? Someone who owned 1 of something, or someone who dealt with thousands of em ?
Does that mean I know everything ? Nope, but I know enough to make an informed statement as to the overall products of that company.
Why do you think they are so cheap ? You think its because they like you ? Its because they dont spend $$ on R&D, Customer Service, buy inferior parts - its business 101. They are a huge company that is known for cheap crap, plain and simple. This is not an opinion to be argued, its fact.

I understand your feelings are hurt because I said Acer is junk - but I am not the only one who thinks so. its pretty much a widely considered fact. Same as the notion of ThinkPad T-series being the standard of reliability & quality. One reason why they practically start @ $1000. (Oh BTW - ThinkPads have 30% lower warranty repair rate than any other brand)

I dont claim to know everything, but I do know a little about this stuff - and I know people who base their opinions of an entire company or brand overall solely on 1 or 2 computers dont really have a clue, literally.
A quick google will confirm everything I have said, Im sure several of the people who regularly post in HH will agree with me as well. No reason to get mad, just save up more money next time - because you probably wont be as lucky.

No product has 100% failure rate, and no product range is without issues, but there are brands/companies in every market who are known for being superior and, of course, some being junk.

One thing you can be happy about - I think Acer has a better warranty repair rating than Compaq Thats a postive !

[AJerman]

Kreuger, on 24 April 2012 - 04:18, said:

Yeah, my current laptop (Toshiba) is a C2D. I'd like to get at least an i3. I may get another C2D though. Does anyone have experience with Samsung laptops? I was looking at this one.

Okay, well I found a little something that might help regardless. Hit me up.

[RandyC]

Still running my T61p after nearly five years (upgraded it with a SSD, 2nd HDD and 4GB RAM). It seems to be very happy with what I throw at it however I have been doing some RAW photo editing recently and it has been struggling a little so I will probably get a new T series laptop this year once the new 2012 ivy bridge chips are available.

This is my second TP - the first is a A31 which is still working well for one of my family who uses it as a demonstration machine for some medical apps - they run this same laptop on the international space station and it's build very well. It even survived a car crash I was involved almost fully intact!

[+Shikaka]

I have a Lenovo G570 and so does my sister, we both ferry them around in ruck sacks every day (me to work and clients, her to uni and work)

All fine still after a year of use.

I recommend Lenovo's to clients over HP / Dell, the seem to last longer with the careless clients aswell.