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So annoyed second RMA biostar Z77 board.....


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#16 jnelsoninjax

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 14:05

View Posttsupersonic, on 21 May 2012 - 13:56, said:

Because they generally add new features or improvements like bug fixes, etc. Like my netbook, there were complaints that it wouldn't accept 8GB of RAM (wouldn't post), even though the chipset supported it. A BIOS update was released to fix the issue. I've never had a bad flash...
I learned one important lesson dealing with BIOS updates, Never ever use a windows based program to flash the BIOS, regardless of how tempting in might seem (bad experience with MSI)


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 14:19

Luckily the board I just purchased allows a bios update without a CPU or Memory installed. Felt weird doing it that way.

Asus Sabertooth x79 is my board of choice

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:43

View Posttsupersonic, on 21 May 2012 - 13:56, said:

Because they generally add new features or improvements like bug fixes, etc. Like my netbook, there were complaints that it wouldn't accept 8GB of RAM (wouldn't post), even though the chipset supported it. A BIOS update was released to fix the issue. I've never had a bad flash...

Yes, they will fix bugs, but that's not my point - my point is that if your system is not exhibiting any problems, why bother? There's too much risk involved for too little reward for a perfectly functioning system.

For example, your netbook won't accept 8GB of RAM - if you're only running 4GB and aren't planning to upgrade, the fix is useless to you, so why tempt fate?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:58

View Postzeta_immersion, on 18 May 2012 - 13:57, said:

Never go for biostar or asrock ... gigabyte or asus all the way

ASRock was a part of Asus, so they can't be bad.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:38

View PostThe Laughing Man, on 21 May 2012 - 14:19, said:

Luckily the board I just purchased allows a bios update without a CPU or Memory installed. Felt weird doing it that way.

Asus Sabertooth x79 is my board of choice

Umm out of idle curiosity, how does that work? :omg:

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:43

Gigabyte board is comming today i am so excited!!! Prepair for a I hate gigabyte thread though ;) haha

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:58

View Postmetal_dragen, on 22 May 2012 - 11:43, said:

Yes, they will fix bugs, but that's not my point - my point is that if your system is not exhibiting any problems, why bother? There's too much risk involved for too little reward for a perfectly functioning system.

For example, your netbook won't accept 8GB of RAM - if you're only running 4GB and aren't planning to upgrade, the fix is useless to you, so why tempt fate?

If you cant update your bios without a promise that your board should still work then it is not a company I want to buy from x

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 13:00

View PostJohnRocks, on 22 May 2012 - 12:58, said:

Bios updates should only be done if the update directly addresses the problem(s) you are experiencing. A bad Bios flash can render a Mobo useless. Rule of thumb for the Bios- If it's not broken doesn’t fix it.

I dont think it was figuring out my clock speed correctly on its own and I figured a bios update would fix it

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 13:28

View PostSkyDX, on 22 May 2012 - 12:38, said:

Umm out of idle curiosity, how does that work? :omg:
I could not begin to explain, maybe this would help :)

http://event.asus.co...lashback_GUIDE/

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 16:39

View Posttogerland, on 22 May 2012 - 12:58, said:

If you cant update your bios without a promise that your board should still work then it is not a company I want to buy from x

While in theory I agree with you - the problem is that BIOS is just software, and software is written by people who are prone to making mistakes.

Unfortunately, the BIOS is loaded into firmware at the lowest level of operation of your computer - it's not like installing buggy software in Windows where you might get random program crashes but in all other respects it still works - when your BIOS is buggy, best case scenario is a functioning computer with lowered performance - worst case is a non-functioning computer (that is also potentially unrecoverable).

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 13:39

z77 GIGabyte motherboard came!!!gigabyte updated biosi and no problem wohoooo!!! Things also seem faster then when I was on the biostar board windows installed alot faster!!!

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 13:51

I sell Biostar AMD FM1 boards all day long, zero problems. *Every* board maker has occasional issues, but it's your right and opinion to complain over legitimate issues, but no real reason to totally **** on the company as a whole. I've used ECS boards before as well with very few issues. Asus boards have worked well for me in the past, only issue with them is their RMA system sucks more than the intern(s) during the Clinton Administration.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 13:53

View Postir0nw0lf, on 23 May 2012 - 13:51, said:

I sell Biostar AMD FM1 boards all day long, zero problems. *Every* board maker has occasional issues, but it's your right and opinion to complain over legitimate issues, but no real reason to totally **** on the company as a whole. I've used ECS boards before as well with very few issues. Asus boards have worked well for me in the past, only issue with them is their RMA system sucks more than the intern(s) during the Clinton Administration.

Maybe the intel ones suck

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 13:59

View Postmetal_dragen, on 22 May 2012 - 11:43, said:

For example, your netbook won't accept 8GB of RAM - if you're only running 4GB and aren't planning to upgrade, the fix is useless to you, so why tempt fate?
Might as well do the BIOS update while it's in warranty, instead of waiting for when you are going to update to 8GB and then have a problem.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 14:01

Doesn't have anything to do with brand anymore, I find. These days, no matter what brand you choose; there is a 50/50 chance it will either work, or not. Quality control for all manufacturers has tanked.