Recommended Posts

Alright, am I dreaming or is there an official thread for this game? I am sure I've seen one on the spybot in recent days, I would be pretty amazed if no gamers here are playing it....yet for the life of me I have searched the forums, I have looked in gaming and computer gaming, I've even tried to google search the forums and cannot find this damn thread!!!!

Can anyone point me to the the thread before I loose my mind?

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1089553-the-secret-world/
Share on other sites

Actually, in all seriousness, I was wondering this to.

Is there an official thread, or does one need to be made.

I started playing last night, and looked for the thread. I was surprised the same as you that I could not find one. Honestly it is just a game to hold me over 'til GW2, but it is still a cool game nonetheless.

Where is the thread for this game?! :p

I'm getting a bit tired of MMO's but after SWTOR and especially the challenging missions in TSW I'm not on back to bog standard NCSOFT mass prodused MMO like GW2 with 3 different armor models and textures and olors the only difference, and all the women in armor bikinis.

i love the investigation missions in this game, even if some of them reuire you to read a Poe story or learn morse :) as well as the class less system, which i iike version 2 of the SWG skill system, or a simplified evolution of AO's system, which was way overomplicated and you needed the right formula anyway. This is what Rift tried to do, done right.

I'm playing on Grim as templar. I really like the class less system and the fact that just by earning AP you can totally change how you play with different abilities for your same weapon or a different weapon all together. Also like how you can pick and choose any abilities together (passive's) to get a deck exactly how you like it.

Meanwhile, TSW does have it, and I'll play that.

Honestly I don't really care about DX11 or not as long as the game doesn't look horrible. I can't run Tesselation and SSAO anyway, well I could probably have SSAO, but for now I just run medium with high textures.

Yeah yeah, the standard lots of grass andglow and soften filters to make everythign look smooth and soft that we've seen in every asian fantasy themed NCSoft game since the start of time to make them appear to look good.

Anyway, back to TSW. Yeah I'm on Grim to, unfortunately the only server that gets broken quests it seems :) but they're working it out and the kingsmouth areas seem to be all worked out now. Right now I'm focusing on Mercenary deck, but I started out with blades so I have full inner ring on that as well and a lot of AR skills in the outer ring that's not part of the Merc deck :) but for the sake of efficiency in the instances I'll try to fill out the merc deck next now. then experiment a little, maybe slayer for the sword skills ad perhaps necromancer after that before I start experimenting.

Eventually I'll have to really start to understand and learn the complexities of he interdependency in combat between "classes" and skill to really take advantage and use the states.

I really like how complicated this game is, while simplifying stuff from other games that where to complex again. like the AO skill system.

1) It's not made by NCSoft.

2) It's not asian themed.

3) The GW2 engine is made by Anet and is used, solely, by Anet. It does not appear in any other game (save for it's predecessor, the engine used for GW1).

Anyway, onto TSW - I'm really looking forward to trying the necromancer. It will be interesting to see how that plays.

Anyway, back to TSW. Yeah I'm on Grim to, unfortunately the only server that gets broken quests it seems :) but they're working it out and the kingsmouth areas seem to be all worked out now.

I'm kind of wondering if Grim was the closed beta server, it had many of these issues. But it could just be player load for all I know.

Judging by the Testlive server patch notes (which I'm sure I'm not supposed to share) most things should be fixed on the first patch, whenever that is.

I have it and am trying to decide if I like it. I got to the part where I went in the building and got my weapon of choice and left and then nothing. I ran around all over the place looking for quest givers. Also, as I understand it there are no levels, just new abilities. That may be a deal breaker for a lot of people. People like to see progression, imo anyways,

This game interests me, but i'll wait a few months before i pick it up so i can see how it pans out. I've bought MMOs early in their lives, and it always burns me. Star Wars ended up crappy, Tera was okay, but generic as high hell beyond the combat, and i'll have to wait to see how this game does after the free month is over for people. It worries me that they put out a lifetime subscriber option, every game that has had that is now free to play.

Honestly I don't really care about DX11 or not as long as the game doesn't look horrible. I can't run Tesselation and SSAO anyway, well I could probably have SSAO, but for now I just run medium with high textures.

Even if you can't run the extras, DX11 performs better on multicore processors and the special effects will be better.

Some of those things people often forget about, though it's not usually going to make a huge difference on performance.

Next year I'd sure as hell hope the DX9 era is either past or going away, considering the major publishers have largely switched already (not entirely, but anyway.)

I have it and am trying to decide if I like it. I got to the part where I went in the building and got my weapon of choice and left and then nothing. I ran around all over the place looking for quest givers. Also, as I understand it there are no levels, just new abilities. That may be a deal breaker for a lot of people. People like to see progression, imo anyways,

The questline should've advanced to having you test the weapons on whatever they use for testing and then past that. I think there might be a glitch in the Dragon training grounds though.

Judging by the Testlive server patch notes (which I'm sure I'm not supposed to share) most things should be fixed on the first patch, whenever that is.

http://forums.thesec...ead.php?t=39024 - You can find them on official forums, so I doubt it matters.

While we are on DX11, I did the TSWAnalyzer (over at nvidia) and everything passed spare my 9800GT. Anyone off hand got a recommendation? It's about time I start to do upgrades might as well ensure I can play TSW on HIgh/DX11.

And can you pull up the itemstore in game? I have yet to check it out.

This game interests me, but i'll wait a few months before i pick it up so i can see how it pans out. I've bought MMOs early in their lives, and it always burns me. Star Wars ended up crappy, Tera was okay, but generic as high hell beyond the combat, and i'll have to wait to see how this game does after the free month is over for people. It worries me that they put out a lifetime subscriber option, every game that has had that is now free to play.

I must add, well I didn't hate TOR but I played it at 1.2, mostly as filler til TSW showed up. The Tera closed beta was so bad I don't even mind that I'm forced to use the horrible pun Terable to describe it :D

TSW is a little buggy but not enough to stop you from enjoying it. It's been a fairly smooth launch. Glad they agreed to delay launch a couple weeks, cause it was not ready.

OUR ego is sensitive? You're the one who came in here just to **** all over. And yes, bad graphics. Courtesy of DirectX 9. Which is exactly why I will not buy it.

Oh no! It's not pretty enough!

If you only care about graphics then you are missing out on things like: plot, storyline, game play, writing, creativity

A game can be the most beautiful thing in the world and be complete rubbish.

I must add, well I didn't hate TOR but I played it at 1.2, mostly as filler til TSW showed up. The Tera closed beta was so bad I don't even mind that I'm forced to use the horrible pun Terable to describe it :D

TSW is a little buggy but not enough to stop you from enjoying it. It's been a fairly smooth launch. Glad they agreed to delay launch a couple weeks, cause it was not ready.

The game interests me, without a doubt, but i'd like to see how they support it in the coming months. I don't have the best faith in Funcom, but if it seems like the population of this game stays steady (i can see it having a small dedicated userbase) i'll happily pick up a copy. What is the end game like for TSW? It seems that a lot of the focus is on the quests and story, what happens when you hit the end? Is it focused on raids, small group dungeons, pvp?

Oh no! It's not pretty enough!

If you only care about graphics then you are missing out on things like: plot, storyline, game play, writing, creativity

A game can be the most beautiful thing in the world and be complete rubbish.

I don't have the money to buy every game that might be worthwhile, so I'm being picky.

And sure it can, but I'd rather support devs that actually invest in their games than those that halfass it.

(Also in GW2s case, don't have the time to support two MMOs and never finished the last three GW releases so this most likely wouldn't be any different.)

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • All these CEOs got the biggest boners thinking about firing employees for AI. Turned out it was just a wet dream.
    • And the fact that the majority of people from Poland are white European Christians while the people you are complaining about in post after post are not is just a coincidence... Every sentence in your post I am replying to is racist nonsense. None of it is actually based on any facts whatsoever. All immigrants are seeking a better life too. It's literally the only reason they would risk everything and leave their homes, families, and homeland. They are working and contributing to the economy too, as you even admit. They get the same benefits your partner did AND that YOU are eligible for as well. That is one of the key things of the EU and a mark of a civilization. That is the definition of a society where everyone is given a chance, treated equally and fairly, and is judged by the content of their character, not their different skin color or which version of ignorant superstitious nonsense their parents lied about as children. Racists around the world said the same things about the Irish and Jews and Poles (like your partner) and...every other immigrant movement over the centuries. What's your family's heritage, by the way? Were your ancestors lied about with racist fearmongering crapola by self-entitled locals the same way as you are now? If someone like that said the same things about all people from Poland, like your partner, would they be right? Or would you want them to judge your partner based on who they actually were, not where they just happened to come from?
    • Again, this is an irrelevant attempt to attack the messenger. The truth does not require any justification.
    • Removed the blue and underline as you did not post a link. This would also  be considered spamming.
    • Why it's almost impossible to produce a smartphone in the United States by Hamid Ganji If you look at the back of some Apple products, you can see the famous phrase “Designed by Apple in California, Assembled in China.” This phrase appears on products from one of the largest smartphone brands in the United States. These products are designed in the U.S., but their manufacturing takes place in China, India, Vietnam, or even Brazil. But why can’t Apple, as one of the largest American tech companies, produce its iPhones on U.S. soil? The idea for this topic came to me after the Trump Foundation launched a smartphone called the T1 and claimed that it was designed and built with American values in mind. However, this claim did not last long, as it was revealed that Trump’s phone was actually a rebranded HTC U24 Pro, with only a gold case and minor internal component changes. You see? Even a phone that is supposed to represent American values is manufactured in China. With a gross domestic product (GDP) exceeding $32 trillion, the United States is currently the world’s largest economy, while China ranks second with around $20 trillion. On the other hand, the United States is by a wide margin the global leader in various technological fields, and American companies spend hundreds of billions of dollars annually on research and development. From Apple and Google to Microsoft, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and others, American tech and industrial giants lead their foreign competitors in many sectors. The United States also has no shortage of smartphone brands. Apple, Google, and Motorola are among the major brands in the smartphone market, collectively holding a significant share. However, the vast majority of their products are manufactured outside the United States. So why is it that the world’s largest economy, home to the most advanced technology companies and industrial powers, cannot produce a smartphone on its own soil? Let’s explore this question together. Even threats to impose tariffs won’t work After Trump entered the White House as the 47th President of the United States, his administration adopted strict tariff policies. One of these policies was the imposition of a 25% tariff on smartphones manufactured outside the United States. Trump said he “had a little problem” with Apple CEO Tim Cook over producing smartphones outside the U.S. So he thought that threatening a 25% tax on imported phones might force Apple to bring manufacturing back to the United States. “I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the United States of America will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. Image via The White House Although Apple currently manufactures some of the iPhone’s chips in the United States with TSMC's help, it still shows no willingness to shift full iPhone production to the country. At the time, renowned Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo wrote on X, “In terms of profitability, it’s way better for Apple to take the hit of a 25% tariff on iPhones sold in the US market than to move iPhone assembly lines back to the US.” However, manufacturing a smartphone in the United States is not as easy as it might seem, and many technical and economic barriers are involved. The lack of necessary manufacturing hubs There is a clear reason why many companies prefer to manufacture their products in China. China has established itself as the main global manufacturing hub for international companies, and over the past few decades, large contract manufacturers have emerged there, allowing companies like Apple to outsource production. One such example is Foxconn, which also manufactures some Apple products in India. Building the infrastructure required to produce smartphones in the United States would require tens of billions of dollars in new investment. Factories would need to be built, essential manufacturing equipment would have to be installed, and, most importantly, a skilled workforce capable of operating these systems would need to be recruited and trained. The United States currently lacks the core infrastructure needed to manufacture smartphones, and for this reason, many companies prefer to outsource production to Chinese contractors rather than spend tens of billions of dollars to build that infrastructure, which is significantly more economically efficient. Additionally, building such infrastructure in the United States could take up to a decade, ultimately leading to a significant increase in the product's final price for consumers. Shortage of trained labor in the U.S. compared to China Decades of serving as a global manufacturing hub have allowed China to build a massive talent pool in the production sector that is almost unmatched worldwide. Today, if a company chooses to manufacture its products in China, it can be confident that the workers involved in production have years of experience in their respective roles and are capable of producing high-quality goods with minimal errors. Even if we assume that tens of billions of dollars were invested in building smartphone manufacturing infrastructure in the United States, finding skilled workers would remain highly challenging. Apple CEO Tim Cook visiting the iPhone 6 assembly line in China in 2014. Image: Tim Cook on X In a 2015 interview on CBS’s 60 Minutes, Tim Cook said the main reason Apple isn’t producing in the US is a lack of skills. "China put an enormous focus on manufacturing, in what you and I would call vocational kind of skills. The US over time began to stop having as many vocational kinds of skills. I mean you could take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in the room that we're currently sitting in. In China you would have to have multiple football fields,” Cook said. Also, in 2017, at the Fortune Global Forum in Guangzhou, Cook once again emphasized the importance of highly skilled Chinese workers. “China has moved into very advanced manufacturing, so you find in China the intersection of craftsman kind of skill, and sophisticated robotics and the computer science world. That intersection, which is very rare to find anywhere, that kind of skill, is very important to our business because of the precision and quality level that we like. The thing that most people focus on if they’re a foreigner coming to China is the size of the market, and obviously, it’s the biggest market in the world in so many areas. But for us, the number one attraction is the quality of the people,” Apple CEO said. Higher labor costs in the United States Producing almost any product in the United States is more expensive than in many other countries, and one of the main reasons is the higher cost of labor in the U.S. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, median weekly earnings of full-time workers in the United States were $1,235 in the first quarter of 2026. Meanwhile, the average annual salary in China's private sector in 2025 was RMB 71,590 (US$9,961). In many parts of the world, the weekly wage of an American worker is equivalent to several months of income. Another important factor to consider is that in the United States, the workforce capable of working on a smartphone assembly line is highly specialized and therefore commands higher-than-average wages. According to an estimate by Bank of America, producing an iPhone in the U.S. is technically possible, but “iPhone cost can increase 25% purely on higher labor cost in the U.S.” However, this 25% increase applies only if final assembly is performed in the United States while components are still sourced from China or elsewhere. In this case, the price of a base iPhone would rise from $799 to around $1,000. But in another scenario, if Apple were to produce the required components for the iPhone within the United States, production costs could increase by more than 90%. Trump’s dream for a “Made in the USA” iPhone might never come true In a free-market capitalist economy, one of the primary responsibilities of any CEO is to maximize profit. Using Apple as an example, Tim Cook’s role is to maximize the company’s profits so that it can fund research and development for new products and invest in areas such as artificial intelligence, while also keeping shareholders satisfied. Therefore, it is entirely understandable that Apple would choose not to bring its manufacturing back to the United States and instead keep production in countries where labor is cheaper, and products can be manufactured at a lower cost, thereby maximizing its profit margins. What is your opinion about manufacturing smartphones in the United States? If you are an American citizen, would you be willing to pay hundreds of dollars more for a smartphone made domestically in the USA? Let us know in the comments.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Conversation Starter
      jessse3334 earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • Reacting Well
      JuvenileDelinquent earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • One Month Later
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      506
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      196
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      153
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      72
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      65
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!