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[b][size=4]Windows 7 explorer.exe for Windows 8[/size][/b]
Long story short, i made a wrapper to Windows 7 explorer.exe to run on Windows 8. You can try it now in order to have native Windows 7 desktop experience.
[url="http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=34651"][attachment=314783:explorer7on8.jpg][/url]
You need to have [b]Windows 8 Release Preview 32-bit[/b] installed. Most likely won't work for other builds.

Installation: grab c:\windows\explorer.exe and c:\windows\en-us\explorer.exe.mui from windows 7 system or installation CD (with 7-zip). It must be 32-bit version (if it's 64-bit, grab files from SysWOW64 dir). You can use Windows 7 files from same language build or en-US build.

Extract them to directory like "c:\explorer7". Extact attached archive to that directory too. It should look like this:
C:\explorer7\explorer.exe
C:\explorer7\en-US\explorer.exe.mui
C:\explorer7\patchex7.exe
C:\explorer7\wrp32.dll


Launch patchex7.exe. It will patch windows 7 explorer.exe. Then choose "7" to set it as default shell in registry, terminate current explorer.exe and log you off.
After log-on you should see Windows 7 desktop.
To uninstall, launch patchex7.exe again, choose "8" to reset shell to default explorer.exe in registry.

Download: [attachment=314785:patchex7-b0.zip]

[b]PLEASE READ[/b]:
THIS PROGRAM IS PROVIDED TO YOU "AS-IS" AND I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING

Issues
- Start menu pin list and MFU list doesn't work. Instead, Start menu always shows "All programs" list.
- Trying to pin app to start menu by drag&drop will pin it to taskbar instead.
- Choosing "Pin to Start" menu item will add item to Start menu All programs list.

No Metro:
- Metro programs won't run.
- Autoplay popups won't show.
- "You have new program to handle this stuff" popups won't show. You need to use Default programs to change associations.
- Network icon popups don't show since Metro UI isn't started. You can't manage Wi-Fi networks. Use third-party program for that.
- "Choose default program to open this file type" is still Metro UI and works.

No new explorer goodies:
- No language input indicator. Use third-party program for that.
- No multi-monitor taskbars. Maybe more multimon issues.

Beta0 issues:
- Customize dialog for tray icons don't work. "Customize system icons" works though (Clock->Properties).
- Alt-tab switcher is legacy one (you can replace alttab.dll/.mui in system32 to windows 7 ones to get it to work).
- Start menu all programs sometimes don't show.
- Some debug messages are going in background.
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Yeah, I'd be EXTREMELY careful using this..

Also, kinda defies the point of having Windows 8 tbh.
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If this is real and doesn't send my pron collection to my mum, I have a feeling it will become very popular

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1342192364' post='595000439']
If this is real and doesn't send my pron collection to my mum, I have a feeling it will become very popular
[/quote]Dunno, seems like nobody cares. Run it in VM if you're scared.

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serously wish people would stop trying to change windows 8 into windows 7
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[quote name='Tihiy' timestamp='1342195016' post='595000555']
Dunno, seems like nobody cares. Run it in VM if you're scared.
[/quote]

Don't worry about the haters here, Metro has become some peoples god it seems, post it around the net a bit, it will become popular, there are plenty of Metro haters out there ;)

Try MDL forums, you should get some good reviews from there

http://forums.mydigitallife.info

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[quote name='Tihiy' timestamp='1342195016' post='595000555']
Dunno, seems like nobody cares. Run it in VM if you're scared.
[/quote]

Have you tried exporting the explorer.exe from an earlier build of Windows 8 that still had it?
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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1342192364' post='595000439']
If this is real and doesn't send my pron collection to my mum, I have a feeling it will become very popular
[/quote]

You're going to limit yourself to a 32 bit OS?

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[quote]Have you tried exporting the explorer.exe from an earlier build of Windows 8 that still had it?[/quote]You mean using DP instead of Win7? That could be nice idea, if explorer from there is more functional (i don't recall).

[quote]You're going to limit yourself to a 32 bit OS?[/quote]There will be 64-bit version ofc... It's the earliest public beta. I just need to acquire full MSVC instead of express.
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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1342196524' post='595000605']
You're going to limit yourself to a 32 bit OS?
[/quote]

Who! what! where!? Huh ? !

I don't run Win 8 on here, I do however have the 32bit flavour on my laptop and with only 2GB RAM it makes no odds whether I run 32bit or 64bit on it really

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[quote name='Tihiy' timestamp='1342196554' post='595000607']
You mean using DP instead of Win7? That could be nice idea, if explorer from there is more functional (i don't recall).

[/quote]

Yup, I think it was the DP or maybe even a build that leaked afterwards?!

I honestly haven't tried Windows 8 yet since it is so close to release. I want to approach it with a "clear" perspective, if thats even possible seeing as how I am in a Start button thread :) .

Good job btw!

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If a 64 bit version becomes available this will interest me.

Also, have you tried hacking the Windows 8 explorer exe to make it boot to desktop without removing all the other goodies like the ribbon?

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Nice job man, if you continue with this and make it 64bit, and work out some of the kinks, this alone may be my reason to go to 8. I hate metro, I hate the start screen, I hate the dropping of eye-candy. This will fix most of it.
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Can't edit my topic... here is beta 1 version:[list]
[*]Improved Start Menu appearance
[*]Customize tray icons dialog works
[*]64-bit support!
[/list]
You can view updated instructions [url="http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/"]here[/url].
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Exactly what Windows 8 needs. Thank you!

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No,don't whatever you do try this app it is not safe to do this. And it could stop Windows from working.

You cannot disable the Metro theme in Windows 8 CP or in Windows RP safely and still have Windows work.

If you want the Windows 7 Windows Explorer use Ribbon Disabler from Winaero,which is proven to be safe,here-[url="http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20"]http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20[/url]

Or Classic Shell here-[url="http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/"]http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/[/url]
Which gives you both the start button and Windows 7 start menu and boots straight to the desktop.

And many other start menu software now does the same thing. It is a safer option than hacking your system. Andrea Borman.
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[quote name='AndreaBorman' timestamp='1342795791' post='595018947']
No,don't whatever you do try this app it is not safe to do this. And it could stop Windows from working.

You cannot disable the Metro theme in Windows 8 CP or in Windows RP safely and still have Windows work.

If you want the Windows 7 Windows Explorer use Ribbon Disabler from Winaero,which is proven to be safe,here-[url="http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20"]http://winaero.com/c...comment.news.20[/url]

Or Classic Shell here-[url="http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/"]http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/[/url]
Which gives you both the start button and Windows 7 start menu and boots straight to the desktop.

And many other start menu software now does the same thing. It is a safer option than hacking your system. Andrea Borman.
[/quote]for once I actually agree with you Andrea
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Sure, third-party programs which hack explorer in memory are safer than microsoft ones patched on disk. :shiftyninja:
Also, ribbon is still there, my precious.
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[quote name='articuno1au' timestamp='1342192242' post='595000431'] Yeah, I'd be EXTREMELY careful using this.. Also, kinda defies the point of having Windows 8 tbh. [/quote]

No it doesn't the start menu is not the only reason to go to Windows 8, For me its the only reason not to move to it.
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Well Tihiy,I have read your posts on MSFN forums here-[url="http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/"]http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/157302-windows-7-explorer-for-windows-8/[/url]

And some people over there say your patch works. But some people here on Neowin Forums say it has caused side effects,like not being able to manage networks,notification and loss of other features. So this still cannot be deemed safe to use.

Where did you find this software anyway Tihiy? Andrea Borman.
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[quote name='DKAngel' timestamp='1342195158' post='595000561']
serously wish people would stop trying to change windows 8 into windows 7
[/quote]

Because that affects you personally how?
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[quote]So this still cannot be deemed safe to use.[/quote]Yes. This is definitely not for average user yet. I'm sorry if it confuses people.
[quote]Where did you find this software anyway?[/quote]I made it.
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In Windows 8 Developers Preview you could disable the Metro theme with a registry edit and it was safe to do so. But you cannot in Windows 8 Consumer Preview or in Windows 8 Release Preview.

So forget this registry or system hack. And I also read about another app that claimed to disable the Metro theme that was from a Chinese website.
That was posted on a thread on Eight Forums here-[url="http://www.eightforums.com/customization/7157-metro-disabler.html"]http://www.eightforums.com/customization/7157-metro-disabler.html[/url]

But that was not without side effects either.

So if you want the start button and Windows start menu use Classic Shell like I do. See my picture of my start menu on Windows 8 RP. Or use another start menu software as these are all safe to use on Windows 8. As well as on windows Vista and Windows 7. And some like Vi Start and Start Menu 7 can be used on Windows XP and earlier versions of Windows,Windows 2000,98 and 95. To get the Windows 7 start menu.

And classic shell and the other start menu software has now been updated. And the new version now boots straight to the desktop.Skipping the Metro start screen. Andrea Borman.


[attachment=315225:Classic Shell on Windows 8 RP.JPG]


[attachment=315227:Vista start menu on Windows 8 RP.JPG]

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http://www.neowin.net/news/start8-087

Start8, better, safer, and far more trustworthy.

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All these "trustworthy" programs had to start at a Beta didn't they? Give the bloke a chance. This is the perfect time to be testing these sorts of releases, before the OS is actually released.
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