The Dark Knight Rises fails to impress Oscars judges

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The Dark Knight Rises may be the year's most talked about movie, but it is unlikely to be in the running for major awards come Oscars season.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, which stages the world's most high-profile awards ceremony, held a screening for voters on Saturday night at the Samuel Goldwyn theatre in Beverly Hills. The organisation's president, Tom Sherak, spoke in advance to acknowledge the recent shootings at a cinema in Aurora, Colorado. According to the Hollywood Reporter, the film did not generate the kind of response from audience members that would suggest a successful awards season run next year.

"People were kind of disappointed," one academy member told the magazine. "It wasn't because of [Colorado]. I just don't think that this picture will get any nominations [beyond technical nods]."

"There was nothing remarkable about the acting," said another academy member. "I don't think it can be nominated as best picture."

The writer Bret Easton Ellis, who is also an academy member, later tweeted: "Not that it really matters, but there was zero love for The Dark Knight Rises at the packed academy screening in Los Angeles tonight."

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The academy can go screw itself. They never look past true stories or some rehashed drama as far as nominations go. You'd be hard pressed to have any action based movie get into it unless the action is part of some war film with drama as the backdrop. A batman movie could have the best acting ever, and I mean ever, and they wouldn't care simple because it's batman, a comic book hero flick to them and nothing more.

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Except this one didn't, nor did it have anything that was awe inspiringly good. It was an alright movie, but nothing spectacular.

That depends on the viewers which is why the academy isn't just a handful of people but a large number. Regardless I was being general about it for the most part. How far back do you have to go to find a pure action movie or a scifi movie nominated for best picture? Last I remember was the lord of the rings movies but even those have a good chunk of drama mixed in. Otherwise I think you have to go way back to the original Indiana Jones movie that was nominated

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Ok, Inception was also nominated but that movie is a cut above the rest for it's originality alone.

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No offense, but the film is just not Oscar worthy. The second film was amazing and definitely Oscar worthy, especially Ledger's performance, but this film, in terms of story, writing and everything, it is a dud.

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Most action films are entertaining, but they're not great, memorable films.

I don't agree with that fully. Lots of action films that have went on to span trilogy's or even more are very memorable. Who doesn't remember the original Die Hard movies? Or the original Rambo series? Indiana Jones? And if you expand it to scifi movies well, damn, that just makes the list longer IMO.

My point stands, the acting could be the best ever and they'd still turn a blind eye to it because it's just an action movie or a scifi flick or a comic book hero film or w/e. And Ledger got the Oscar as more of a tribute and over his death than anything else, it was the Academy being politically correct and bending to popular demand and the press (because everyone was calling for it back then). This isn't even the first time they've bent to pressure as well, go a bit farther back and all the bad press they were getting because there hadn't been a African American best actor/actress winner/nominee in so long, so what did they do? Not only nominate two but also have them win.

Now i'm not going to get into it over race or stuff like that, my point is that they'll bend to pressure and what the press/fans want which hardly makes this seem like a objective voting group or w/e. To me they've become a joke.

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The only reason Heath got the Oscar is because he died. The guy that played Dent simply out-acted him. (And I loved Heath's performance)

No surprising from the Oscar folk, I'm sure they have some mildly-retarded movie in mind already.

Exactly, leaving the debate about which is better, 2nd or 3rd, no way the 2nd would've gotten anything for Ledger had he not met his untimely end the way he did. The Oscar they gave him was more a nice tribute and PR stunt and also because the fans would've made such bad press had it not happened that they were more or less forced to do so.

Don't get me wrong, I liked his Joker, it was one of the best, (outside of the joker in the comics and games like AA and AC IMO). But had he not died he wouldn't have gotten any Oscar nod at all. It's the sad truth.

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I was done with the academy when wall-e was not nominated for best motion picture. You can tell they screwed up because they tried to redeem themselves the following year by expanding the category to 10 (which is their way of saying that they'll give the recognition to those other movies that otherwise would never make it, but that the oscar will always be awarded to the typical dramas)

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I've heard from several people it's a great film, however the problem is the character is not "batman".

As my boss put, if the film was called "darkman" it would of been awesome, but this isn't batman.

Too thuggish, not the smart detective / clever use of technology.

(Compared to the previous two)

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I've heard from several people it's a great film, however the problem is the character is not "batman".

As my boss put, if the film was called "darkman" it would of been awesome, but this isn't batman.

Too thuggish, not the smart detective / clever use of technology.

(Compared to the previous two)

I don't see how the trilogy lacks the use of clever technology? I sorta agree with the smart detective bit, mostly. This is why I think a movie with the riddler as the main villain would be interesting because it'd force Batman to use his "detective skills and smarts" more. I just wonder if any writer/director has the gutts to try and pull it off though.

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I don't see how the trilogy lacks the use of clever technology? I sorta agree with the smart detective bit, mostly. This is why I think a movie with the riddler as the main villain would be interesting because it'd force Batman to use his "detective skills and smarts" more. I just wonder if any writer/director has the gutts to try and pull it off though.

nah they'll leave it alone now (at least for about 10-15 years)

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I loved the movie but acting wise, no one stood out. Not even Michael Caine or Morgan Freeman. Anne Hathway probably had the best acting but still nothing special.

The only reason Heath got the Oscar is because he died. The guy that played Dent simply out-acted him. (And I loved Heath's performance)

No surprising from the Oscar folk, I'm sure they have some mildly-retarded movie in mind already.

I think Heath Ledger and Aaron Eckhart both acted equally well but in some scenes, especially the upside-down dialog delivery near the end, Heath just had best lines.

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Because the genre of movie he was in would immediately disqualify him otherwise lamp, sadbuttrue. The Joker is easily one of the most iconic villians ever, so that helps. I would love to see a more detective focused movie too - but lets not forget that the 3rd was the war movie (Darkman wasn't a dummy so I'm not sure why that is an insult - I can't think of anything that made me even slightly ragey about the portrayal of the Bat in the latest one. If anything, Bale didn't try to over act nearly as much to keep up with his more talented co-stars in TDK.)

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