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[Orange Battery]

Sorry guys but your probably not the audience that WB cares about when planning the next Batman movie, they are looking at the people that will be the age your was when Batman begins was released.

[Enron]

What they need to do is change Batman entirely from an action movie to something else.. a musical maybe.

[thommcg]

nekkidtruth, on 05 August 2012 - 02:10, said:

The majority of the issue with TDKR is the fact that it's stupidly long, huge gaps between action and had so much more potential than it was given.

Ya know, I felt similarly, but on seeing it again I just loved it. Probably the change in expectations, whatever, it just felt right.

[Calum]

Rappy, on 04 August 2012 - 15:30, said:

I am yet to see TDKR, I am a bit worried I might hate it!

I loved it! I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. I don't believe it's better than The Dark Knight, but I do believe it's pretty awesome and better than Batman Begins.

[Rappy]

Calum, on 05 August 2012 - 14:35, said:

I loved it! I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. I don't believe it was better than The Dark Knight, but I did believe it was pretty awesome and better than Batman Begins.

seems to be the consensus!

bought empire today and they gave it 5

[Lamp0]

Calum, on 05 August 2012 - 14:35, said:

I loved it! I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. I don't believe it's better than The Dark Knight, but I do believe it's pretty awesome and better than Batman Begins.

I found the plot became increasinly tedious and uninteresting. The overbearing emotional self-importance of it all had me cringing of times. Not to mention some ridiculously stupid and hammy scenes.

@Rappy: I really can't understand how anyone could give it 5/5. Although Empire did give Indy4 4/5.

[Rappy]

Lamp0, on 05 August 2012 - 16:54, said:

@Rappy: I really can't understand how anyone could give it 5/5. Although Empire did give Indy4 4/5.

I thought it was really weird, but then Empire gave it a massive glowing review saying it was a masterpiece

[GP007]

This doesn't sound much like a "reboot" to me though, it's not picking up right from the start, it's not a do over of batman begins for example. They seem to be picking a period between say, batman begins and tdk or w/e and going from there. Sure it's a new actor and probably the style will be different but that doesn't much matter. Unlike spiderman where they did go back to square one and started over, that is more of a reboot. If you just pick a time somewhere in the middle of the batman world and make a movie then I don't think of it as the same really.

I'd hate it if they did infact start all the way from scratch and went through the whole creating batman process again for a new movie. At this point even if the target audience is new younger people I think they already know who batman is and how he started.

[Lamp0]

GP007, on 05 August 2012 - 17:20, said:

This doesn't sound much like a "reboot" to me though, it's not picking up right from the start, it's not a do over of batman begins for example. They seem to be picking a period between say, batman begins and tdk or w/e and going from there. Sure it's a new actor and probably the style will be different but that doesn't much matter. Unlike spiderman where they did go back to square one and started over, that is more of a reboot. If you just pick a time somewhere in the middle of the batman world and make a movie then I don't think of it as the same really.

I'd hate it if they did infact start all the way from scratch and went through the whole creating batman process again for a new movie. At this point even if the target audience is new younger people I think they already know who batman is and how he started.

A reboot doesn't mean the narritive has to start at square one, it just means to discard what was established in the story prior.

[GP007]

Lamp0, on 05 August 2012 - 19:46, said:

A reboot doesn't mean the narritive has to start at square one, it just means to discard what was established in the story prior.

Which depends on how much they change, I honestly, seeing how they're now making even superman, not much will change from Nolans dark tone, and I think it shouldn't. They might scale back the "realism" that we've had so far and go closer to the comics but the dark and serious version we've had for 3 films I don't expect will change. If they go back to the more detective style batman that has to salve problems and use his head just as much as his fists and combat skills then I'm all for it. Personally I want to see someone do a movie with Riddler, I think a really good movie can be done with him alone as the bad guy, so underrated in the universe. I think we've gotten enough batman movies with Joker, hell the newest batman game killed him off!

[+McKay]

I think I'll wait for this to come out on Blu-Ray, I don't like being shot at when I'm eating my popcorn.

[+Jamushroom]

To the people that are talking about reboots of films based off of comics: This is what happens to the comics themselves as well. It's not a reboot, but just another story based off of the same character set in a different universe. It's different than when Terminator or Back To The Future gets rebooted.

There's loads of comics about Batman's beginnings and they all have different titles. It's the same with Spiderman, X-Men and all the other super heroes. The stories are also different than the other titles and they're usually set in different universus. I see these movies that are based off of such comics as the same. A new story of the same character with a new title set in a different universe.

[GP007]

Jamushroom, on 05 August 2012 - 22:25, said:

To the people that are talking about reboots of films based off of comics: This is what happens to the comics themselves as well. It's not a reboot, but just another story based off of the same character set in a different universe. It's different than when Terminator or Back To The Future gets rebooted.

There's loads of comics about Batman's beginnings and they all have different titles. It's the same with Spiderman, X-Men and all the other super heroes. The stories are also different than the other titles and they're usually set in different universus. I see these movies that are based off of such comics as the same. A new story of the same character with a new title set in a different universe.

Oh I know about all that and It's why I got away from US comics and moved over to Japanese and Korean manga/manwha. They do have series that are crazy long and don't look like they'll end but they don't pull that crap, a series has it's one plot line and maybe some side stories or spin-offs but that's it. None of this alternate time line and so on, and most things end at some point. I think DC got tired of the mess that was made all these years in their comics and that's why the just rebooted everything over and have no started fresh. I hope this time they don't make a mess of things.

[DClark]

It is going to be tough to beat Christopher Nolan's trilogy. I think the few that dislike The Dark Knight Rises were the bandwagoners who thought The Dark Knight was the best thing ever and were expecting The Dark Knight Rises to use the same formula and genre. But that's not Nolan's style as he uses a different genre for each film in his trilogy, which makes it enjoyable and non-repetitive. Although Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker was the highlight of the trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises brings back what the story is all about: Bruce Wayne. Incorporating the story of Batman Begins and the plot of The Dark Knight was a perfect combination to conclude the trilogy.

[Lamp0]

GP007, on 05 August 2012 - 22:05, said:

Lamp0, on 05 August 2012 - 19:46, said:

A reboot doesn't mean the narritive has to start at square one, it just means to discard what was established in the story prior.

Which depends on how much they change, I honestly, seeing how they're now making even superman, not much will change from Nolans dark tone, and I think it shouldn't. They might scale back the "realism" that we've had so far and go closer to the comics but the dark and serious version we've had for 3 films I don't expect will change.

But that doesn't mean it's not a "reboot". It almost certainly won't be working from Nolan's continuity, so it's a "reboot". It doesn't matter about style or tone.

DClark, on 05 August 2012 - 22:38, said:

It is going to be tough to beat Christopher Nolan's trilogy. I think the few that dislike The Dark Knight Rises were the bandwagoners who thought The Dark Knight was the best thing ever and were expecting The Dark Knight Rises to use the same formula and genre. But that's not Nolan's style as he uses a different genre for each film in his trilogy, which makes it enjoyable and non-repetitive. Although Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker was the highlight of the trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises brings back what the story is all about: Bruce Wayne. Incorporating the story of Batman Begins and the plot of The Dark Knight was a perfect combination to conclude the trilogy.

Nope.