New motherboard; 1155 or 2011 (socket)?


Recommended Posts

I'm building a new PC and the first part that I'm picking up tomorrow, is a new motherboard. But the thing is, I'm not yet locked on a CPU, so I don't know which socket I want more.

Was thinking to pick up i7-3770K which requires 1155 socket, but I don't know if in the future CPUs gonna use that socket in case I'll want to upgrade without the need to buy new motherboard. So my other option is to pick up i7-3930K which requires the newer 2011 socket, but then again, I have no idea if future CPUs from Intel gonna use that socket.

Didn't follow the tech development in the motherboards world for the past two years, so I have no idea what to pick. Motherboard with 1155 socket, or 2011?

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096109-new-motherboard-1155-or-2011-socket/
Share on other sites

Next years new consumer CPUs (Haswell) will need a new socket so 1155 isn't future proof in that regard. But 2011 isn't either, according to latest roadmaps Ivy-Bridge-E will be released at the end of 2013 (yes, thirteen) when Haswell for mainstream has already been released. So you'll be able to upgrade but only to CPUs that will technically be outdated and expensive. Go 1155 and use the saved money in two or three years to buy the mainstream-socket that's current then. Only exception would be if you 100% need 6 real cores right now, then of course buy 2011. But I guess if that were the case you wouldn't have asked. ;)

Next years new consumer CPUs (Haswell) will need a new socket so 1155 isn't future proof. But 2011 isn't either, according to latest roadmaps Ivy-Bridge-E will be released at the end of 2013 (yes, thirteen) when Haswell for mainstream has already been released. So you will be able to upgrade but only to CPUs that will be technically outdated and expensive.

Eh, that wasn't really helpful. After Riva's message I already started to pick 1155 motherboard (so far, GA-Z77MX-D3H catched my eye).

You need to ask yourself two questions.

1. Do you need 32GB or more memory?

2. Do you need 6 Cores?

If you answered yes for either of those questions get the LGA 2011 socket. And if you did say yes, get the 3930K. It's an awesome processor with 6 cores and isn't too expensive.

Now something to keep in mind as dr_crabman above me said, Haswell (the next architecture to replace Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge) is coming in 2013 but it uses a new socket called LGA 1150 making it incompatible with todays LGA 1155 and 2011 sockets.

You may notice that LGA 2011 comes with Sandy Bridge-E (E for Enthusiast) processor support whilst 1155 offers the newer Ivy Bridge chips. But don't be fooled, although Ivy Bridge is newer it isn't faster. It is merely a die shrink that hasn't resulted in any performance improvement but it has reduced power consumption from around 95 Watts to 77 Watts which isn't nothing to snuff at.

Unfortunately however this power reduction has not been beneficial to overclockers because Intel simultaneously changed the way they bond the heatspreader (the metal case on top of the processor) to the die beneath which has reduced the upper thermal transfer efficiency when the processors get hotter. What this all means is, it is harder to keep the temperatures under control when performing higher overclocks (4.6GHz and above) this may not be a concern to you but I feel it is worth mentioning just to be complete.

I hope this post helped.

Eh, that wasn't really helpful. After Riva's message I already started to pick 1155 motherboard (so far, GA-Z77MX-D3H catched my ye).

The situation right now is a bit complicated unfortunately and there's no clear answer possible without knowing exactly what you want and what the budget is. Do you want to pay way more for the CPU and mainboard now (and again for the processor when Ivy-Bridge-E is released) only to avoid changing the board in a few years? Do you need 6 cores or a maximum amount of RAM? If yes, 2011. But honestly the mainboard you chose shows me you're not really an enthusiast that wants high end so I'll go ahead and say that you'll be perfectly fine with a 1155-system.

The situation right now is a bit complicated unfortunately and there's no clear answer possible without knowing exactly what you want and what the budget is. Do you want to pay way more for the CPU and mainboard now (and again for the processor when Ivy-Bridge-E is released) only to avoid changing the board in a few years? Do you need 6 cores or a maximum amount of RAM? If yes, 2011. But honestly that mainboard choice shows me you're not really an enthusiast that wants high end so I'll go ahead and say that you'll be perfectly fine with a 1155-system.

First; Why did you cut the "e" from the "eye" in my post :D ? Secondly; what's wrong with the motherboard I linked? Picked it mainly because it supports both SLI and crossfire, as I was thinking to first get another AMD card and run crossfire and later, get two 690s when they get cheaper. And what's with both of you (you and Vice) talking about maximizing the current 32gb ram limit. My current 775 socket motherboard supports 32gb.

I'm surprised that you would want to run two GTX 690's on that motherboard. It will work but those are very fast graphics cards and you'll definitely want to do a lot of overclocking to keep them purring. It's basically like having four GTX 680's in a case. And that motherboard isn't really designed for overclocking. It doesn't even have an 8-Pin CPU power connector which would limit the power delivery to the processor for good overclocks.

I'd recommend instead something like the Asus Republic of Gamers Gene IV - It is X79 though.

Also the reason I said about 32GB of RAM is because the X79 boards can do 32GB at the low end and 64GB at the high end. It can also do 32GB very cheaply by using 8 x 4GB sticks vs 4 x 8GB sticks (which cost more than twice as much as the 4GB sticks and come in much slower speeds).

I doubt I'll need to overclock the CPU (i7-3770K) by much if at all, to not bottleneck two 690s.

Well what resolution do you intend to game at? Because if it's anything less than triple 1920x1200 displays then you will yes. Two GTX 690's is four GPU's at almost the same clocks as the GTX 680. It's the fastest GPU on earth and you'll have four of them. Even a stock 3930K will bottleneck that kind of setup in every game out right now unless you're pushing the resolution quite high.

Of course your FPS will be off the charts anyway but you won't get 100% utilization on those graphics cards in any game with only one display. I'd estimate about 40% even in Battlefield 3 @ 1920x1200.

First; Why did you cut the "e" from the "eye" in my post :D ? Secondly; what's wrong with the motherboard I linked? Picked it mainly because it supports both SLI and crossfire, as I was thinking to first get another AMD card and run crossfire and later, get two 690s when they get cheaper. And what's with both of you (you and Vice) talking about maximizing the current 32gb ram limit. My current 775 socket motherboard supports 32gb.

Really don't know what happened to the 'e'. Strange. :shiftyninja:

But wait, you want to buy 690s and put them on a small ?ATX-motherboard? Something doesn't add up here, the board is fine for a normal to low-budget system but I'm not even sure you'll get the maximum performance out of two graphics cards like that (PCIe-lanes are my main concern there). And no, a not-overclocked 3770K won't be enough. Maybe 2011 and a high-end CPU is indeed better for you but I get the feeling you didn't think this through 100%. ;)

Didn't noticed that the motherboard was micro atx. New pick: GA-Z77X-D3H. How's it?

edit: You know what? **** the SLI plan on 1155. Gonna pick a motherboard with crossfire support and shove another AMD card in it, until the new CPUs that require a different socket you guys were talking about gonna be released.

Any complains on http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8B75V/ ?

The B75 chipset is low end and according to Intel meant for "small business". For example you can't overclock with it so a K-CPU is completely useless. Get something with a Z77, the Gigabyte you linked to looks fine. ASRock is good too (way better than they were a few years ago) if you want something solid for a reasonable price, ASRock Z77 Extreme4 would be my choise in this price range.

:/ AMD? nVidia is sort of kicking ass right now, the 670, 680 and 690 are insanely good in every aspect.

As are the HD7870 and 7850 for their current prices. 7970 dito. 670 is of course a great value too but nV has nothing competitve that's cheaper than that, maybe soon the 660.

You're going to pay over 400,- for another 6990 (unless you find a great deal they are still quite expensive) but want to shove off a few Dollars off the mainboard price? I really don't understand your priorities here but okay. The MSI is again ?ATX, the Gigabyte fine I guess. Very barebones featurewise and not fit for great overclocks. I also don't like the layout, could be that the second 6990 will cover some or even all of the SATA-ports, which is a problem most sub-100$ ATX boards have as far as I can tell.

Alright, a few changes: I cut the K out of the CPU (**** the overclocking) and picked a new motherboard with better design: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4140#ov

And checked this time that it's not micro atx, ffs. Any complains now? I believe it will hold nicely until the end of 2013.

So, purchased the motherboard. Now waiting for the salary to come in to buy the cpu, ram and another gpu. Did some thinking and decided that I don't really need the hyper-threading (the cpu going to be used mainly for gaming), so decided to go for the i5-3570k. After some minor comparing (http://ark.intel.com/compare/65719,65520) thought it's a good idea.

I was just thinking to overclock the i5 to surpass the i7-3770 and be done with it, until the next upgrade. I also doubt all the threads of the i7 going to be used in gaming.

So, any objections from the pros over here?

  • 2 months later...

Hi, I'm hoping I can jump in on this and someone can help me. First off, I'm not a hardware expert so please excuse any ignorance I have in this area (which is why I am here asking the question). I'm looking to buy a new PC and the main reason for it is video editing with Adobe Premiere and After Effects. Here is what I am looking at possibly getting for mobo and cpu...

Socket 2011: Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3, i7-3820 and 32gb quad channel ddr3.

or

Socket 1155: GA-Z77X-UD3H, i7-3770 and 32gb dual channel ddr3.

Any thoughts on this or suggestions for a better system. Since my budget is between 1000 and 1300 both of these fit into it nicely.

Don't be fooled, the hyperthreading of the i7 doesn't hinder gaming performance at all, I have one and it's still a very fast gaming CPU, but if gaming is your biggest use you won't see much benefit from having it, it mainly shines for tasks like Photoshop rendering and video transcoding.

As for you scottishbullet, what will the most important tasks be that you're building your setup for?

Javik, I'm looking to buy a new PC and the main reason for it is video editing with Adobe Premiere and After Effects. I do NOT do any gaming so that is not a factor. I'm not too worried about having the fastest beast on the planet. In other words if a render takes 20 minutes compared 17 minutes I'm fine with that. What I don't want is for it to take 58 minutes like it does now on my laptop. LOL. I'm also fine to get a good system now and swap out parts later as I can afford them.

In that case then, you're likely to see no real performance difference with the Sandy Bridge-E platform, it's only really worth spending the extra money if you're going to go with one of Intel's 6 core CPU's. For quad core usage Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge LGA 1155 components will suit your needs just fine :)

Thanks Javik, I was leaning in that direction from what I had been reading. Now what about other components? I don't want a bottleneck. Also I'm thinking 16gb might be enough or should I bite the bullet and get 32? As for HD I'm thinking a 120gb SSD (again is cheaper going to mean less performance?) There's such a range that I don't know where to drop the $. I was also thinking of a 1TB Western Digital Black.

For case, Antec Nine Hundred two with a OCX ModXstream 700w power supply. Another big question is video card. There's just so many choices around the same price point.

Is there much difference between the i7-3770 and the i7-3770K. I know one can be overclocked but will that really improve the system by a lot?

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • WhatsApp is getting usernames, and you can reserve your preferred one now by Fiza Ali Sharing your phone number isn't always something you want to do, especially with people you've just met. Whether it's someone from a class, a local community group, or a sports team chat, handing over your number can feel like giving away more personal information than necessary. That's exactly the problem WhatsApp is trying to solve with its upcoming usernames feature. The company has announced that users can now reserve a unique WhatsApp username ahead of the feature's wider rollout later this year. Once usernames become available, they'll let people connect without revealing their phone numbers. It's a change that makes a lot of sense for group chats. Right now, everyone in the group can see your phone number. With usernames enabled, that won't necessarily be the case when someone contacts you for the first time. WhatsApp says it's opening username reservations early because more than three billion people use the app, meaning plenty of people are likely to want the same usernames. Reserving one now gives users a better chance of securing the name they actually want before the feature launches more broadly. If your preferred username is already taken, WhatsApp will also offer a built-in username generator to suggest available alternatives. The feature isn't only aimed at individual users. Creators, businesses, and organisations will be able to claim the same username they already use on Instagram or Facebook, making it easier to keep a consistent identity across Meta's apps. Furthermore, privacy is a big part of how WhatsApp is introducing usernames. There won't be a public directory where people can browse or search for usernames. Instead, people will need to know your exact username before they can start a conversation with you. Additionally, users can also choose to enable a username key, which adds another layer of control by requiring people to enter that key before sending a message. Once the feature rolls out, people who choose to use a username will no longer have their phone number shown when messaging a person or business for the first time. If you want to reserve a username, make sure you're running the latest version of WhatsApp, then head to Settings > Account > Username. The tech giant says usernames will roll out gradually over the coming months, and users will receive an in-app notification when the feature becomes available in their country.
    • When I think about a network, there are really two aspects, the hardware and the wiring. So here is what I would do for both. Wiring: Use Cat6A for the patch panel, outlets, and all structured cables (cables installed in walls). Run plenty of Wireless Access Point (WAP) cables, as a general rule, assume a signal can only pass through 2-3 walls and can't pass through a floor (that is conservative, but trust me on this if you want strong WiFi)  Cat6 patch cables are fine for now if you don't plan to run 10gig, those are easy to replace later if needed. Run OS2 single-mode fiber to anywhere you think you may have a server or sub-switch. (yes, single-mode for everything on a small network, don't mess with multimode unless you have entire racks of servers and that minor module cost and power savings will matter). If you really want to future proof, also run fiber to any high density WAP locations, it is likely that WiFi 8 WAPs will push the limits of 10g. Run 6-12 pairs of single-mode fiber between your MDF and the building's MDF, even if you only need 1 or 2 pairs now, those extra pairs will pay off down the road. Hardware: (its easy to say "get all the features incase you need them", so instead of futureproofing, I am going to take approach of suggesting areas worth investing in, and areas you can save money). Don't overspend thinking you need every feature on every port. You don't need 10g on every port, you don't need PoE on every port. Don't overspend on redundancy either, unless you are ready to buy two of everything, don't waste money buying two of some things and not others. Dual power supplies are worthwhile, but probably not HA or multi-path redundancy.  Get 1 "distribution layer" switch that your router/firewall will connect to as well as all your access layer switches below. This should be a 10g switch with a combination of copper and SPF ports and should be a fully managed switch. Given that you said it is a small network, I suggest also using that distribution layer switch for servers and WAPs, meaning it will need PoE. Speaking of wireless, get good professional tri-band WAPs, and either turn on the band stirring options, or limit 2.4 to an IoT only SSID. This will provide a solid WiFi capable nearly everything but the highest of bandwidth clients...you could even consider skipping wiring workstations depending on usage. Access layer switch for workstations and printers can be cheaper switches, 2.5g is a good sweet spot between price and future proofing, but even 1g is fine for most individual clients (the kind that could probably be fine on WiFi). You can consider saving a little on access layer switches by only getting 1 PoE switch for whatever needs it (remember your WAPs are connecting to the distribution switch, not here), and non-PoE for your workstations, because desk phones are falling out of favor. You can also save money here by not buying managed switches if you don't need them--but really do some soul searching there, if you go this route, then anything that isn't on your workstation VLAN would either need to be connected to the distribution switch, or its own access layer switch. Also, don't feel like you need a fancy fabric stacking switches for your access layer, that is the point of the higher-end distribution layer, to remove the need for things like that at this level. Home Hardware: I'm realizing the above assumed an office setting, if this if for your house and home lab then the above still applies, but you'll probably want everything managed and PoE, just because, but you probably also don't need multiple access layer switches. If your total port count is below 24, just skip separating distribution layer and access layer and just get one nice switch with the features you want. If you are at the point of considering a 48-port switch, I would instead get a nice high-end distribution switch for things that need it, and cheaper access layer switches with specs based on the needs of connected devices. For home use, don't worry about home running every device to the main switch, there is nothing wrong with running sub-switches for your media areas and office, those essentially become your access layer, just look for sub-switches with a 10g uplink so sharing bandwidth isn't an issue.
    • Google Meet brings Gemini note-taking to AI Pro and Ultra subscribers by Karthik Mudaliar Google's Gemini-powered "Take notes for me" feature inside Google Meet is now available to Google AI Pro and Ultra subscribers. The features work on Google Meet for web as well as on mobile, and Google says that subscribers can use it for meetings they host in many supported languages. As the name suggests, "Take notes for me" allows Gemini to listen to a meeting, generate a summary, identify action items, and save the notes as a Google Doc in the user’s Drive. After the meeting, the organizer receives an email recap with the summary and action items, while the notes can also be attached to the related Calendar event depending on the meeting setup and sharing settings. The feature isn't automatically turned on for everyone, though. Google says that all meeting participants are notified when note-taking is turned on, and users can start it from the pencil icon in Meet or enable it for future calls through Meet’s meeting records settings. For work or school accounts, administrators can also control whether the feature is available and may require explicit participant consent for note-taking, recording, or transcription features. The feature first launched back in 2024, when it was available just for selected Workspace users. Over the years, Google added refinements and more options, including the ability to enable it when scheduling meetings via Google Calendar. Google's support docs say that the feature currently supports English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Spanish, but only one language at a time. Meetings with multiple spoken languages are not currently supported, and Google recommends using the tool for meetings between 15 minutes and eight hours. The new feature makes Google Meet closer to its rivals that have AI tools already built in. Microsoft Teams has recently started offering Copilot and intelligent recap features that summarize meetings, surface highlights, and help with follow-ups, while Zoom’s AI Companion can also generate meeting summaries from desktop and mobile meetings.
    • GnuCash 5.16 by Razvan Serea GnuCash is a personal and small business finance application, freely licensed under the GNU GPL and available for GNU/Linux, BSD, Solaris, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows. It’s designed to be easy to use, yet powerful and flexible. GnuCash allows you to track your income and expenses, reconcile bank accounts, monitor stock portfolios and manage your small business finances. It is based on professional accounting principles to ensure balanced books and accurate reports. GnuCash can keep track of your personal finances in as much detail as you prefer. If you are just starting out, use GnuCash to keep track of your checkbook. You may then decide to track cash as well as credit card purchases to better determine where your money is being spent. When you start investing, you can use GnuCash to help monitor your portfolio. Buying a vehicle or a home? GnuCash will help you plan the investment and track loan payments. If your financial records span the globe, GnuCash provides all the multiple-currency support you need. Between 5.15 and 5.16, the following bugfixes were accomplished: Bug 421610 - RFE: Include logical dates for View->Filter by "date range"The Select Range section of the Date tab of the register's Filter By dialog box is changed to provide relative, specific date, or days ago options for the start and end of the filter range. The Show number of days item label is changed to Show from days ago to better reflect what it does. Bug 436105 - esc key not working as expected in register: Enable the escape key to cancel a field edit. Bug 797384 - Gnucash doesn't handle commodity prices with big numerator/denominator properly. Bug 798004 - Next gen UI for stock transactions Bug 799314 - Add "enter now" option in scheduled transaction editor. tab to allow users to select the scheduled transactions to be included in a “Since Last Run…” window. If there are no instances of a selected transaction triggered by today’s date, the next instance is triggered. Bug 799751 - autocomplete crash Bug 799759 - Users can't Enable entries via Checkboxes on Scheduled Transactions PageAllow the Enabled box in the list of scheduled transactions to be operated instead of having to open the transaction editor dialog and change the Enabled checkbox. Also added use of the Name column as the secondary column sort for all the other columns. Bug 799762 - Poor handling of cases where hidden/placeholder accounts are used in the account register Bug 799766 - Double line preference not respected in search register Bug 799767 - POST /accounts in bindings/python/example_scripts/rest-api is broken Bug 799777 - `xaccSplitSetParent`: reparenting a committed split silently drops its KVP slots (online_id, cap-gains links) Other changes & improvements: Numeric values may now be selected to copy in the Accounts page. Add new Finance::Quote source Finnhub.io: Free API key (personal/non-professional use) available at https://finnhub.io. Set FINNHUB_API_KEY environment variable to API key to use this source. As of June 2026, free tier API limit is 60 API calls/minute. The Investment Lots report has new optional columns for Computed Annual Growth Rate. Python Bindings: Improved translation of primary object (Account, Transaction, Split, etc.) so that they can be treated as normal Python objects. This is accomplished with SWIG magic so no existing code is obsoleted. Python Bindings: Better conversion of GLists to Python lists. Python Bindings: Destroy the QofSession in the Python Session dtor to prevent leaving the database locked. [engine] Add first-class online_id accessors for Split and Account and make them available to Python bindings, removing the unused Transaction online_id property. Improve C++ implementation of QofBook. Correct the Doxygen doc for qof_instance_get/set_kvp. [gnc-log-replay.cpp] fix incorrect guid dump Add some Boost library requirements needed by libgnucash-guile to CMakeLists.txt so that missing feature will fail at configure time. Use Compile-time Regular Expressions instead of std::regex in gnc-filepath-utils.cpp and instead of boost::regex in the CSV importer, with the CTRE v3.11.1 header added to borrowed [gnc-filepath-utils.cpp] null check char* arguments Add ChartJS licenses. Removed AEX from list of commodities. euronext.com is now using JS based anti-webscraping. [report-core] always offer options summary in reports. This is useful to debug reports. The Add options summary option is removed because it's no longer optional. Remove remaining obsolete IMContext from sheet Fix blurry text in HiDPI offscreen-rendered widgets Add port field to database connection dialog: The convention of appending the port number after the host isn't obvious. When editing a split in the register treat the account as being changed only if it isn't the one selected before editing instead of if the user performed an edit Return immediately from qof_book_destroy if hash_of_collections is null. If qof_book_destroy is called on a QofBook* freshly created with qof_book_new (usually because it was used to create a session that now must be destroyed) it would try to empty the non-existent hash tables, crashing. Clean up Flathub metadata to solve warnings at flatpak build time. Be consistent in naming GncPluginPage and GncPluginPageRegister HTML: Remove unimplemented function declarations. [gnc-html.cpp] remove unused buggy string conversion functions Convert libgnc-html to C++ Apply -Wall -Werr -Wmissing-prototypes to C++ compilation on Windows and fix the resulting errors. New and Updated Translations: Arabic, Croatian, Danish, Dutch, German, Finnish, Hungarian, Korean, Norwegian-Bokmal, Spanish Download: GnuCash 5.16 | 176.0 MB (Open Source) Links: GnuCash Home page | Other Operating Systems | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Microsoft finally launches WSL Containers in public preview by David Uzondu Microsoft has announced that WSL containers, a feature that allows developers to run Linux containers natively inside Windows without the need for Docker Desktop, is now available in public preview several weeks after Microsoft previewed it at Build 2026. To use the new container feature, you first have to install the latest pre-release version of the Windows Subsystem for Linux by running a quick update command in your terminal: wsl --update --pre-release After installing, you'd get access to the new Linux container CLI (wslc.exe) and the programmable API. Microsoft said that the CLI has a "familiar format" that matches the toolsets developers already use every day. If you know standard Docker commands, your muscle memory will translate directly to wslc.exe, which even features a built-in alias called container.exe. You can quickly run a full Ubuntu KDE desktop container by exposing ports, or pass your graphics card straight into a machine learning environment to run PyTorch workloads. Passing the --gpus all flag inside the run command instantly links your hardware. Image via Microsoft As for the API, developers can now embed Linux container operations directly inside native Windows applications without exposing the command line to users. The team integrated the API directly into MSBuild and CMake, so developers can define container steps directly in project files. Apart from bringing the CLI and API into public preview, Microsoft also said that it's working on a new default file system called virtiofs to speed up file transfer rates between Windows and Linux. Microsoft also introduced an experimental networking mode named consomme, which resolves compatibility issues with corporate VPNs by routing Linux network traffic straight through Windows. One thing to note about WSL containers is that they don't run in your standard WSL distributions; instead, every application and CLI session spawns its own lightweight Hyper-V utility VM in the background. This basically reduces the chances of one app snooping on the container of another app.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Reacting Well
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      BA the Curmudgeon earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Conversation Starter
      rosiecharles earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • First Post
      KMilenkoski1202 earned a badge
      First Post
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      534
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      269
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      150
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      98
    5. 5
      macoman
      66
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!